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Composition IV[edit]

I have removed the following paragraph from the article:

During the studies Kandinsky made in preparation for Composition IV, he became exhausted while working on a painting and went for a walk. While he was out, Gabriele Münter tidied his studio and inadvertently turned his canvas on its side. Upon returning and seeing the canvas (but not yet recognizing it) Kandinsky fell to his knees and wept, saying it was the most beautiful painting he had ever seen. He had been liberated from attachment to an object. As when he first viewed Monet's Haystacks, the experience would change his life. [citation needed]

I have only found such a claim in a few online articles which seem to be parroting and paraphrasing each other. I looked through the book "Kandinsky compositions" by Magdalena Dabrowski which contains all the drafts of Composition IV and none of them have a different orientation to one another.

This leads me to doubt the other paragraph too below where this one was, also needing a citation. Allenthalben (talk) 00:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A vandal is in our midst[edit]

I saw the phrase 'Wassilly Kandinsky kills babies' in the article so i deleted it but methinks that the section between 1910-1914 has been removed, and I think it was there before, and I'ts the section i really need right now. I'm a new user, but if it's possible, does anyone know how to retrieve the missing content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colorend (talk • contribs) 19:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

English/American spelling[edit]

I've gone through and changed some of the ambiguous American/English, UK. It is evident the writer is not an English speaker and has used both spellings. I've changed it to UK English. Alexandre8 (talk) 22:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know the history of how the Russian name Vasily got to be Wassily in the case of Kandinsky? He signs his paintings with a V, not a W. There must be some sort of reason that it has been changed to a W in English. Is this a British English tradition? The literal Russian translation should be Vasili or Vasiliy. What's up with it being a W - whose convention is that? Seems to me the article would be more complete with an explanation.69.235.17.128 (talk) 06:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

double-sided?[edit]

I had heard somewhere that many of kandinsky's works were "double-sided", where each side of the canvas had a different painting. I don't know much about it though. Can anyone this? - 24.137.104.16 03:26, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Does anyone know if Kandinsky knew he was a synaesthete?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.137.193.224 (talk • contribs) .


Abstract Art?[edit]

Kandinsky Thought Musical notes were like paintings so kandinsky started to paint art "Abstract Art" which later on he became Famous for I believe that Kandinsky Died a couple of Days after completing his last Abstract compsition Even Today we Still Do Abstact art of which was Kandinskys Finest creation —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.61.76 (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kandinsky's paintings were "duble-sided—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.5.172.49 (talk • contribs) .

I couldnt finda any other mention of Lenin or Hitler in Kandinsky's paintings outside of here (also the representations arent clearly visible in the paintings). If whoever posted that could provide some sources that would be cool.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.161.122.61 (talk • contribs) .

"He is credited with painting one of the first purely abstract works." This discounts the many abstract prehistoric paintings. Perhaps it should be clarified with "...one of the first modern purely abstract works." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.82.225 (talk) 09:15, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism[edit]

This article was the subject of rather disparaging references in an article in the Guardian newspaper today. ("Go to the Wikipedia entry on the artist, and one learns that the profiled face of Lenin appears in one of his paintings (is that a cloud, is it a beard?), and, even less plausibly, that a full-frontal portrait of Adolf Hitler is to be found in the lower left of Composition VI, which Kandinsky completed in 1912. This would be spooky, were it not ludicrous."). I know nothing about Kandinsky, but the writer seems to have a point. The points in question have now been removed, but can someone better-informed than me have a look and decide if any of the rest is tosh? HenryFlower 19:07, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Upon very close inspection of Composition IV - which is meant to have the Lenin profile:
This image contains A LOT of different profiles and faces. One of them vaguely of looks like a slouched man with a goatee (top-centre, facing left, inside the profile that loks like its screaming). But come on, if you spend years drawing an abstract painting with lots of half-hidden figures inside, one of them is bound to have a beard, it's silly to claim that it is Lenin. Especially since this man is drawn in white - the colour of Lenin's opposition; he has no moustache, and his beard is the wrong colour. Might as well claim it's Jesus instead!
It would only deserve to be mentioned here if it were some well-known theory that a lot of superstitious fans subscribed to, but this is not the case - as I couldn't find a signle mention of this anywhere else apart from Wikipedia (and now the Guardian article).--Konstable 05:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Delisted GA[edit]

This article has been delist for a number of reason see this discussion for reasons. Gnangarra 14:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That link doesn't seem to go anywhere now? Either way, it's no surprise that it's delisted, the article needs serious work. Bits like this:
In Kandinsky’s works, some characteristics are obvious while certain touches are more discrete and veiled; that is to say they reveal themselves only progressively to those who make the effort to deepen their connection with his work. He intended his forms, which he subtly harmonized and placed, to resonate with the observer's own soul.
... seriously undermine the objectivity of the article. MKV (talk) 22:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added an {{OriginalResearch}} tag to the article. There are numerous sections that read like unsourced essays on Kandinsky and his work in the article. I think this is part of the reason it was delisted from GA. The sections should either be sourced or removed completely, in my opinion. · j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 18:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

W instead of V?[edit]

Maybe I've missed something, but why is the name spelt with a W in the title? I've never seen it spelt this way, and it doesn't make phonemic sense (if you get what I mean)... 61.9.204.168 05:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He studied in Germany, where "В" would be transliterated as "W". That's got to have something to do with it. - THE GREAT GAVINI {T-C} 14:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TRANSLITERATION: V is the English spelling W is the German and B is the Russian. W in German sounds like our "v", because he produced most of his works in Germany and therefore was primarily advertised there the most common spelling of his name as an artist is the German version.

Where's the evidence that he produced most of his works in Germany, first of all (Many of them, yes). And since when does a name change based on where one does most of one's work? In an English work, one would expect an English spelling (Vasily). But, as I noted above, it seems a longstanding tradition to make an exception of Kandinsky, even though the plainly signed his name with an English "V" when he was monograming his first name. AN explanation of why this has happened to the spelling must surely be historical and therefore, there has to be a citation somewhere - or if it's just uneven tradition (Russians who translate the name today into English translate it Vasily), perhaps it should be corrected. Like Beijing instead of Peking.69.235.17.128 (talk) 06:36, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
well let the German-language page spell it with W. This is the English page. Spell it with V. 100.15.120.122 (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Paintings, images[edit]

where are the paintings themself in the article? Did somebody take them away? Rob van Doorn 04:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They were removed in a fit of vandalism. I've restored them. —Angr 20:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Below Composition VII, in this article, writes that Kandinsky said that it was the most complex piece he ever painted. Can somebody please source this statement — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.34.11 (talk) 11:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Haystacks[edit]

The hay link just goes to hay in general, not Monet's haystacks, which can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haystacks_(Monet) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.186.104.15 (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Can somebody please source the quote "That it was a haystack the catalogue informed me...." etc. I have not been able to find the origin of this quote, and I want to read it in context.

Transliteration of name[edit]

Kandinsky was from Russia, which means his name was written with Cyrillic letters. In most other countries of the world these letters must be replaced by Latin letters. In this case they go by spelling. For a German his name sounds like "Wassily", for an English speaking person like "Vassily". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.176.68.233 (talk) 20:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this article be renamed Vasily Kandinsky as per Wikipedia:Romanization of Russian? The W makes him seem Polish. --D. Monack | talk 08:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It depends... This article, while it can be considered a biography, mostly deals with Kandinsky's art practice and theory. As an artist Kandinsky has been known predominantly as "Wassily", if the article were fleshed out to incorporate more of his "life story" then yes, it should be changed. As it is the article adheres to the spelling employed by the majority of the "art world". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.7.239 (talk) 04:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just had a look at the (predictably much better) German article. As expected, they translate his name as 'Wassily' but do so because the artist chose this transliteration when he was living in France. I suggest we keep it. Ben1983 (talk) 20:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then why is the monogram on all his paintings from about 1918 onward VK?69.235.17.128 (talk) 06:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Translation from German...[edit]

As it stands, this page is not good. It has elements of poor English, is strongly subjective and poorly referenced throughout. In contrast, the German page on Kandinsky is well referenced, informative and has a better section on Kandinsky's life outside art. I suggest translating the German wholesale - any other opinions? Ben1983 (talk) 20:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did not see a single Kandinsky painting on the German page..nice picture of Gabriele Münter (same pictures in the Gabriele Münter article here) though. I prefer this version...Modernist (talk) 21:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

mon kardiskany - this is pekeanise for Mr Kandinsky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.142.197 (talk) 17:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI Kandinsky home[edit]

Kandinsky lived here in 1915-1921. The memorial plague is visible on the corner wall, right above the guy in white shirt :)) NVO (talk) 19:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance in popular culture...[edit]

I know that some other artists have separate pages detailing their influences in popular culture, like Dali's dripping clocks etc. Curious if one would be appropriate for Kandinsky, I can think of 2 mainstream films which mention him more than in passing: Six Degrees of Separation uses 2 of his paintings to define the central themes in the film, and Double Jeopardy uses the main villain's love of the painter as a plot point to catch him. I would guess that other references have been made, particularly for such an influential painter...67.32.198.135 (talk) 18:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I also belive that there is to be made a Wassily Kandinsky Type Of writing that can be used on the new microsoft wh=hen it realease. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.73.27 (talk) 21:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling[edit]

Wassily Kandinsky is in use here correctly, although variations like Vassily Kandinsky are commonly seen. For consistency only the Wassily variation is used...Modernist (talk) 23:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I understand consistency - but with what? WHen did this tradition begin and when did it become "consistent"?69.235.17.128 (talk) 06:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think it means "consistency within the article" it gets confusing if the name's spelling keeps changing with a single article. Kiore (talk) 07:20, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The debate gets even sillier when you see this Amazon page. I personally vote for V because this is supposed to be an English-language resource, not German. "Most common" spelling is meaningless in this situation. Krychek (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kandinsky's life[edit]

This article is very full regarding his art and its place in history, but it is very light on the man, his family and his personal history and relationships. Can anyone add more to his actual biography? 90.210.66.2 (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Additional details regarding his actual biography, also the circumstances of his death should be added. Hubertgrove (talk) 06:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image pending deletion on commons[edit]

Hi. A Wassily Kandinsky painting from the Van Abbemuseum, is currently nominated for deletion on Commons. If anybody considers it useful for Wikipedia, it could be uploaded here, as being from 1910 it is in the public domain in the US. --Elekhh (talk) 00:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheas[edit]

thankyou, this page has been a great help for my studies:D — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChavsRcool (talk • contribs) 16:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Original Research[edit]

I found the following sentence and removed it:

This simple visual identification of forms and of the main coloured masses present on the canvas only corresponds to a first approach of the inner reality of the work whose right appreciation necessitates a much deeper observation—not only of forms and colours involved in the painting, but also of their relation, their absolute position and their relative disposition on the canvas, of their whole and reciprocal harmony.

Not only is this pure opinion, it appears to be jargon-filled. You can't just throw around terms like "reciprocal harmony" and still expect an article to be informative. This is an article about the man Kandinsky, not a forum for critical review of his work. If you want information critiquing the works on the page, quote and cite a critical primary source. I've seen other parts of the page marked with the "original research?" tag, so I'm assuming this article is rife with violation of WP:NOR. As such, I've marked the article with the "original research" template. Please help clean it up, thanks! --Quintopia (talk) 04:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence is an approximative English translation of the following sentence from the French version of the Wikipedia article on Kandinsky:
Cette simple identification visuelle des formes et des principales masses colorées présentes sur la toile ne correspond qu’à une première approche de la réalité intérieure de l’œuvre dont la juste appréciation nécessite une observation bien plus approfondie non seulement des formes et des couleurs utilisées dans la peinture, mais également de leur relation, de leur position absolue et de leur disposition relative sur la toile, de leur harmonie d’ensemble et de leur accord réciproque.
I have written this original sentence in 2025, and I don't remember exactly where I have found this information in the books of Kandinsky or in writings on Kandinsky. I have added detailed references in the French version of this article 3 years later, so they are incomplete.
A more precise translation of the last part of this sentence is "but also of their relation, their absolute position and their relative disposition on the canvas, of their whole harmony and reciprocal accords". This is in fact a kind of summary of the book Point and line to plane, and the expression "reciprocal accords" is nothing but the title of a painting of Kandinsky, an oil and lacquer on canvas from 1942. So this is not really jargon as you call it.
But if you want to remove this sentence because you think it is too technical or not correctly translated, there is no problem...
Philippe Audinos (talk) 13:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Although the article is well-sourced, it's short of inline citations; unsourced statements are presumptive evidence—not proof!—of original research. More inline citations would dispel the appearance of OR.

Kandinsky and Microsoft?[edit]

What about referencing Was sily Kandinsky in one of Windows 9x setup files? Screenshot Windows 98 Easter Egg - Reference to Wassily Kandinsky in Setup

62.152.150.120 (talk) 14:27, 29 October 2011. (UTC)

artwork[edit]

kandinsky was very famous for his artwork for the simplisity and colementary colour work — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.160.249 (talk) 18:56, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So what exactly is your point? --C Steffen 02:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csteffen13 (talk • contribs)

Links to Fine Arts Presentations[edit]

This link: Wassily Kandinsky at Fine Arts Presentations features some artworks and a short bio of Wassily Kandinsky ... he is one of several Anthroposophically-inspired artists in the Anthroposophical Collection at this e.Gallery. Does the community believe this additional link in the External Links section would enhance this document? The elibrarian (talk) 14:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It does not connect to anything in the articles in which it appears, does not reference anything specific or make or underscore anything in the article and it is not a valid reliable source. It also connects to a larger link that engages in advertising and selling products, as well as itself. See WP:EL...Modernist (talk) 14:25, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The article is about Kandinsky, and the link is to a page that has Kandinsky's works ... seems relevant to me. Perhaps it could be included in the Paintings by Kandinsky part of External Links? What makes a site "valid and reliable?" Fine Arts Presentations is part of The e.Lib, Inc., and has been on the Internet since 1992. Its sister site, Rudolf Steiner Archive, is quoted in many Wikipedia articles. There are several links on this page, as well as other Wikipedia pages, that use third party Ads and accept donations: there would be very few sites on the 'Net if it weren't for this. What are your suggestions? The elibrarian (talk) 16:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Read up on WP:RS and WP:EL and add referenced information, and forget the advertisements. Try consulting the Spam project...Modernist (talk) 16:37, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I will do the research on RS and EL, but dropping ads is difficult! Costs for Internet lines alone run over a thousand dollars a month! Even with grants it's tough! Most of the sites in the EL use them ... ads pay for bandwidth! It would be wonderful to be able to eliminate ads ... what does Wikipedia do for funding? Which SPAM project? There are several. The elibrarian (talk) 17:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kandinsky- politics & history communism[edit]

Kandinsky held a deep resentment of the "White Russian" monarchy.This rumored due a seduction/bastard by a member of the royal family from which his name was derived,(see- Ivan The Terrible).As per the cured exhibition from the Guggenheim his importance began in the painting of the fireworks over Moscow in 1917 celebrating the inception of a new Communist nation.His next painting of importance is a nearly identical painting of cobalt blue background with magenta and yellow sparse fireworks celebrating the end of Russia's first 5 year plan (1922).From there his themes promoted the ideals of achievement in arts and science under the collective inclusion and education of the masses.Appealing to the common people he initially used icons as would appear in the stained glass windows of the holy churches replacing the figures of saints with symbols of these arts and sciences.Beloved by Lenin, he remained free to travel and mingle among the elite Europeans and cultivate relationships within that art community.Combining iconic meaning with an emerging organic structure of design form became an enduring trait of "Communist" art(see- murals Diego Rivera). 

  Alas, Kandinsky was undone due own intellectual want of freedom.After surviving the Nazi decimation of art in Germany, he pursued the existential thinking of Russian authors and was sent to gulag under Stalin.His paintings of this period, while purloined, exist in sepia tones.
  While never cavalier, Kandinsky's work after his release avoided literal interpretation.And therefore some are dismissive of his body of work.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.117.136.70 (talk) 21:02, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2014[edit]

in the second line - "He is credited with painting....." change "is" to "has" - "He has created with painting....." - grammatical correction. Kunjesh (talk) 06:43, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Improper grammar correction based on what you've provided here. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 07:00, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Music "does not try to represent the exterior world"[edit]

The statement "music is abstract by nature—it does not try to represent the exterior world, but expresses in an immediate way the inner feelings of the soul." is inaccurate, in addition to being a blankey statement. There is, in fact, music that aims to represent the outside world. Drsmoo (talk) 06:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This kind of music that tries vainly to represent the outside world is so mediocre and so insignificant that it doesn't deserve to be called music according to Michel Henry, but only noise. This kind of "music" is only the empty transposition of the scientistic and positivist ideology to music. The essence of music is only to express the feelings of the human soul. This is not a vague and general statement, but a short summary of Arthur Schopenhauer's philosophy of music as discussed in his book The world as will and representation (see Michel Henry, Seeing the invisible. On Kandinsky, pp. 111-118 for more precisions). Philippe Audinos (talk) 10:41, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification Needed on the Use of the Term "Radicals" of the Institute[edit]

The main paragraph under the heading Return to Russia states that Kandinsky's "spiritual, expressionistic view of art was ultimately rejected by the radical members of the Institute." The use the term "radicals" implies that their view was NOT the consensus of the Institute as a whole. Is this the case? If in fact the Institute as a whole generally rejected Kandinsky's ideas, the pejorative term "radicals" should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.166.173 (talk) 13:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Correct Title for Kandinsky's Treatise About the Spiritual in Art[edit]

The third paragraph under the heading Blue Period refers to Kandinsky's written work "On the Spiritual In Art." This work is later referred to as "Concerning the Spiritual in Art." It seems both titles are indeed used, but the latter is much more common. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.166.173 (talk) 13:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictory birth dates[edit]

There are two different birth dates given in this article, one in the body and another in the bio box. SFelleman (talk) 12:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the alert, it's fixed now. Every reliable source I checked on Kandinsky either gives only the Julian date (December 4), or gives the Julian date before the Gregorian date (December 16). In order to follow this convention, I scuttled the Template:OldStyleDate which automatically puts the Gregorian date first. Ewulp (talk) 02:05, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pop culture?[edit]

Is the "In Popular Culture" section of value?173.72.115.21 (talk) 14:46, 26 February 2017 (UTC)Jacques Grinch[reply]

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Personal life?[edit]

There is not much here about the artist's personal life. How did he die? Where did he live in France during WW2? Did he have children? Obviously, because the article mentions a grandson but there are basic facts missing. What about his friendships with other artists in the collectives he was part of? Who influenced him? What occurred during his travels? There is rightly a lot of detail on his theories about color & line but not much information on what influenced him to become the person and artist that he became. These are not irrelevant details, they connect the artworks to the creator & the context that he worked in. I want to know more. 2601:1C0:6D00:845:6CDA:320:FB33:BAE3 (talk) 21:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be general knowledge that Kandinsky's only child died as a toddler. How is it then possible that he has a grandson? Are there illegitimate children that need mentioning? The man listed as his was born in 1918, when Kandinsky would have been 52. Not impossible, but there are big gaps here. [[1]]

Transliteration[edit]

Why for the love of god is his name still being written as Wassily? /w/ does NOT exist in Russian and it's an incorrect transliteration, no matter how you try to justify it. You may as well write Уасилий Уасилевич. Or why not correct his patronym to Уасилеуич while you're at it? May as well go the full mile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.26.51.34 (talk) 18:52, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because that is the name he is known by. Obviously it is not the "English-style" romanisation, because he worked in Germany, where "Wassily" is the natural romanisation. Imaginatorium (talk) 10:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article[edit]

To add to this article: mention of Kandinsky's first wife, Anna. Why is this basic information not already included in this article (and why does the infobox not include mention of his wives and child? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 09:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Signature Style in the works of Wassily Kandinsky[edit]

Although this wiki goes through the art journey of Vassily Kandinsky, talking about influences and his own advances into different forms and styles but still the wiki falls short in explaining what makes a Kandinsky unique in terms of expressions and impact on generations. I am trying to capture the same under signature style. Especially his association with music and Russian folk art in his paintings.

Chinmay (talk) 06:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC) SriSriChinmaya[reply]

Exhibitions sections[edit]

Is there any value in listing contemporary exhibitions of Kandinsky's works around the world? I imagine there are dozens of them. Maybe remove the Exhibitions section or only list exhibitions during Kandinsky's lifetime? Alex Bakharev (talk) 05:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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