Talk:Karakoram

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Untitled[edit]

The listing of peaks could perhaps be changed; it's not clear what the criteria for inclusion are. I also added a section dealing with subranges, some of whose pages exist and the rest I will create soon. -- Spireguy 17:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Disputed border[edit]

Actually, the Pakistan/China border is disputed by India, which claims that Pakistan in 1963 had no right to cede "India's" land to China. --User:DLinth

While the Pakistan/China border is not disputed, the Pakistan/India border and the India/Pakistan border are. So it still might make sense to put back in a reference to that somehow. But it's not a big deal. -- Spireguy 14:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Can you identify these?[edit]

Please take a look at these unidentified peaks at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unidentified_Karakoram_peaks. If you recognize any of these, please update their description and category and notify me. Thanks! Waqas.usman 23:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Chinese scale model[edit]

I added an ABC News reference about the scale model, which quotes reputable sources, so hopefully that satisfies the concern about credibility. -- Spireguy 19:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Map needed[edit]

Map showing where this is vis-a-vis the countries is needed. Badagnani (talk) 20:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Karakoram vs Karakorum[edit]

Both spellings, "Karakoram" and "Karakorum" are used to describe this mountain range. The two spelling occur in both peer-reviewed scientific journals as well as popular literature1. The article should be altered to include this.

In Rudyard Kipling's Kim, "Karakorum" is use in Chapter 13, page 282

"They were at Leh not so long ago. They said they had come down from the Karakorum with their heads and horns and all."

Kim, Chapter 13, page 282.

...and defined in the notes as..

"Karakorum: the mountain range about one hundred miles north of the Indus river in Baltistan, north-west of Leh."

Kim, Notes, page 362

[1]

Ltwhite (talk) 02:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

the name is ultimately Mongolian derived — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.81.170 (talk) 05:50, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ Kim, Rudyard Kipling, first published by MacMillan 1901, Reprinted Penguin Classics 2000

George Cockerill [1892] ?[edit]

Much to my surprise I see that the reference to George Cockerill [1892] was in this article from scratch? I've changed it to [the correct link to] Martin Conway, but can somebody please enlighten me? Qwrk (talk) 09:46, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

The correct reference should link to General Sir George K. Cockerill Qwrk (talk) 11:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

reversion of recent edits[edit]

A newly-created account, User:Adraen, just reverted my condensing edits related to paleoglaciation, both here and at Himalayas. Please see Talk:Himalayas#newly-created account reverted edits without explanation for a centralized discussion. —hike395 (talk) 14:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I've undone the unexplained revert and asked the user to discuss concerns here. Vsmith (talk) 15:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Clarify relationship between Karakoram and Himalaya(s)[edit]

This article seems to dance around whether the Himalayas are an entirely distinct range, or if the Karakoram range is part of same. Some discussion of variable usage might help, if it's not possible to state definitively which of these is the correct and universal usage, and stick with it. (Absence of a link seems extremely unhelpful, too.) 84.203.32.57 (talk) 08:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Map Needed[edit]

This article definitely needs a (better) map to show where this range is located on the planet - particularly one which highlights the distinction between this range and the (better known) Himalayas. -- 160.129.138.186 (talk) 15:54, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Refspam[edit]

@Hike395: I reverted your edit because the reference you restored had originally been put into the article by its author. It was part of a long series of self-citations that that same person inserted into hundreds of articles. (See this page for more information.)

If you have access to the source and can confirm that it is clearly appropriate as a reference for the article, go ahead and put it back in. — Gorthian (talk) 01:29, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the extra work.There are a lot of subtle vandals, so I figured that a bad person removed a good ref. —hike395 (talk) 03:18, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Not a problem. This guy is exactly that—a very subtle vandal! — Gorthian (talk) 06:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Geology[edit]

Given that the article currently says "The Karakoram is in one of the world's most geologically active areas, at the plate boundary between the Indo-Australian plate and the Eurasian plate.[11] " I think the geology section could do with fleshing out a bit.

There is a link in this article to Geology_of_the_Himalaya but that doesn't seem to cover the Karakoram much, though that does lead to a 'see also' for Karakoram_fault_system which it seems to me should be linked from this article.

I guess the article for the terrane for Karakoram would be the Karakoram-Lhasa Blockand I'm told by a geologist (in reply to my question "I had forgotten about the oceanic crust that would have been north of the indian subcontinent, is there any remaining evidence of the subduction volcanism?") that "The subduction volcanism led to partial melting of the subducted Mesozoic ocean floor beneath the Asian Plate and resulted in a massive granodiorite batholith which now form the Korakoram range north of the suture (which includes K2)."

and looking around wikipedia it seems clear that would be the Indus-Yarlung suture zone and thus the Dras Volcanics - mentioned on the Geology_of_the_Himalayaarticle, and the Ladakh Batholith (shown in the image here with labels in french) would be the volcanic remnants I was wondering about.

CoupeHimal2.jpg

I always surprises me that mountain articles don't tend to cover in much detail how they were formed, or the rocks they are made from. Anyway if you happen to have a good book or link on the geology of the Karakoram - then we could probably expand the geology section of this article EdwardLane (talk) 09:43, 1 July 2016 (UTC)