Talk:Karl Kraus (writer)

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Changed "murderous heat" in "Karl Kraus and language" to "murderous chase", since I believe the author of the article confused "Hetz" (hunt, chase) with "Hitz" (heat). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.233.45.8 (talk) 15:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This has developed into a highly informative and reliable article on the great Austrian author. While KK's attitude towards psychoanalysis is given some prominence, other topics could still be added. Maybe I will try my hand at some point on one of the following: KK's relationship with the Austrian socialdemocrats; his reaction to the Dollfuß regime; Brecht's assessment of KK. Maybe someone could add the available English translations (of this difficult-to-translate work). Johannes Feest

I think any or all of the topics you mention would be useful. I've added the (pitifully few) English translations that have come my way. PhilipC 13:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Following a suggestion by Mauro, I've started to translate the German version of the article, incorporating what's already here. It will take some time for me to finish, but in the meantime it would be nice if someone is willing to go over the text and improve on my style (and grammar). In particular, a better translation for bis auf's Messer would be nice. I've taken the literal to the knife, but something that sounds more English while retaining the anachronisitic reference would be nice. Ansgaard 01:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More on Karl Kraus[edit]

I have a copy of Italic textYale Companion to Jewish Writing and Thought 1096-1996Italic textby Sandor l. Gilman and Jack Zipes. There is a nine-page article on KK entitled Italic textKarl Kraus writes "He's a Jew after all" one of the few texts in which he directly confronts his Jewish identity and suggests how it has affected his satirical writing. Italic text This book is in English. Copyright 1997 Yale University. Tony H 26 May 2006

some hint[edit]

Hello! In the article is said: When asked why he never said anything about Hitler, he reportedly answered: I cannot think of anything to say about Hitler. - This is common, but wrong. He did not publish about Hitler until october 1933 and then he wrote: Das Wort entschlief, als jene Welt erwachte. (The word died, when this world awoke.) - The quote I cannot think of anything to say about Hitler. is the first ironic sentence of his 1933 written book of 300 pages "Die dritte Walpurgisnacht" about the Hitler-barbarism. Actually this book wasn´t published in that times, because that would have meant danger to any involved person (f.e. the printer). - Yours sincerely --Logograph 01:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do not want to go back and check all changes here, but I was pondering about the translation of--"Mir fällt zu Hitler nichts ein" (Hitler brings nothing to my mind)-- without the necessary time and knowledge of the context, both people active here and a more intimate knowledge of Krauss work. I would prefer: I am clueless as far as Hitler is concerned. LeaNder (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Reasons for leaving the catholic church[edit]

In the article, it is written that Kraus "left the Catholic Church, because he disapproved of the revival of the Salzburg Festival." Are you sure that it is not a joke ? I am usually working on Kraus for the french language wikipedia, and I have found nothing about this in the bookks I've read.--Loudon dodd 02:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The explanation is completely incomprehensible and moreover unsourced. I will delete it. For reintroduction of the information a source should be provided, as well as an explanation of the connection between Salzburg festival revival and the Catolic Church. --Georgius (talk) 11:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to Edward Timms, he was annoyed at Max Reinhardt's use of a Salzburg church as a venue for a theatrical performance, and wrote satirically that his apostasy was the result of "antisemitism" (i.e. Reinhardt's "Jewish" profaning of a religious site), though in fact he had become disillusioned with Catholicism over its support for the First World War. I've put that in (hopefully reasonably clearly) with a citation from Timms' book. PhilipC (talk) 18:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful to add the text by Krauss Edward Timms' relies on in this context.LeaNder (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

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Kraus is important. Could someone edit the article who can actually speak/write English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.137.179.124 (talk) 05:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Karl Kraus (writer)?[edit]

I'm working on putting together a page on Karl Kraus, the German physicist, and am thinking we need a disambiguation page (since we already have three Karl Kraus articles linked to in hatnotes and I'm about to add another one). I have never heard of Karl Kraus the writer before (as I imagine many haven't heard of Karl Kraus the physicist before), so I was wondering if there was any objection to using Karl Kraus for the disambiguation page and moving this article to Karl Kraus (writer).--Azaghal of Belegost (talk) 04:44, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The old hatnote at the writer's article was unnecessary – those people were not named "Karl Kraus". The fact that only the German Wikipedia has an article about the physicist whereas the writer has an article in 30 languages, 1 of them classified as a Good Article and 1 as a Wikipedia:Featured article, is a good indication of the relative notability between these two and why the writer should be considered the primary topic for this name. Another measure in determining the primary topic suggested at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is to look at incoming links; did you? The physicist has none, which is considerably fewer than the writer has. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That was rather silly of me to not notice the other individuals acutally had different names... Also, missed the simple notariety checks you mentioned, thanks for bringing that to my attention (I read WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but obviously things didn't quite sink in). I'll revert the move and unfix all the links I was in the process of fixing.--Azaghal of Belegost (talk) 14:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, since I changed the redirect to a disambiguation page, I might need an administrator to do that. Live and learn, I guess.--Azaghal of Belegost (talk) 14:32, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted "Karl Krause and Language" Section[edit]

The deleted section was written as a personal essay, an opinion piece with no citations or sources, in violation of Wikipedia policy of Neutral Point of View and No Original Research. No matter how brilliant the analysis or insight, it cannot be the editor's own. Opinions must be those of cited published sources and cannot be used to advocate a point of view. The one passage that was sourced was moved to the "Character" section. If you want to restore the deleted section, then please make it encyclopedic. J M Rice (talk) 19:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored one part of this section: the anecdote by Ernst Křenek describing meeting Kraus in 1932, which attests to his obsesssive concern about the correct use of language. This story is surely germane and has a proper citation. Mick gold (talk) 15:26, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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