Talk:Kenneth Branagh

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Photo[edit]

Not a very good photo. Anyone got a better one? Djbrianuk 16:29, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Someone should post a photo from Mary Shelley's Frankenstein hehe, he looked good in that :D (tyger 19:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC))


Edits: Validated sources[edit]

I removed the comments regarding Branagh playing the new Batman as well as being a canidate for Obi-Wan Kenobi. I am sure of the former, but if anybody can find a source for the latter, feel free to restore it. It appears that the prankster who inserted Batman did not insert the Obi Wan comment, so I suppose it could possibly be true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:KMils (talkcontribs)

Some time after it was confirmed that the prequel films were going to be made, I remember having heard this. Further to that, I seem to remember hearing that he was considered too old for the part, and that is why he had been ultimately rejected. I don't have any source (nor can I remember the source I originally read it in .. probably some semi-official internet fansite), but I have re-inserted the information under a new trivia section, and I will look for a source. --Mal 19:51, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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Theatre[edit]

Hi, I wonder, why there is no short list of his theatre work? E.g.his 'Hamlet' with the RSC or his 'Richard III' in Sheffield.I think, that his work in the theatre is important enough to be listed here. Anne-theater 23.42 CET 5th, May 2007 I agree, as a biography this gives far too much weight to his film & TV career. There's no mention that he was the youngest ever actor to play Henry V with the RSC.Dimmacil (talk) 11:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

  • I just saw a video on you tube Mr Branagh acting on Hamlet like Sir Laurance did. Alloplastic nearly unhearable stuff in mirrowing himself. Can#T follow this non thinking! Disgusting because I like Hamlet#s Thinking in ouerdays reflective and not suicidel... Eating some earth... Heaven and earth_ I remember not a werther in this role, but a player and a strategue. Shall I do a version? Me in black stockings and a jacket out of sammet; female and greedy of recognition._ in the name of action!--Danaide (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Perhaps you should have seen him on stage and not on a video in a doubtful quality. You may have changed your mind. I found him to be the most interesting Hamlet I have seen so far in the Stratford version.Anne-theater (talk) 23:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

British, Irish, Northern Irish?[edit]

I have removed the description of him as a 'British' actor. Such a claim should not be used uncited given his origins in Belfast. Claiming someone from Belfast as British or Irish without adequate research is likely to be offensive to some, and inaccurate. The fact that he refused a British royal honour is indicative that such a statement should not be made without further backup. Some people from Belfast do not regard themselves as British, and some do not regard themselves as Irish. Editors should not unilaterally impose their own interpretation of someones nationality. Without further clarification I would propose 'Northern Irish'. 71.204.133.75 22:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

BET it AMERICANS who know little of the FACTS..?? A person from BELFAST can be as BRITISH as someone from LONDON, EDINBURGH or LONDON......ALL UK.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.230.38 (talk) 23:22, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

If certain British citizens are so offended by their own Britishness, they're free to emigrate elsewhere. Otherwise, it's an inescapable fact of life. Branagh was born in a part of the UK, and he is therefore undeniably British, whether he personally likes this fact or not. It's also true to say he's Northern Irish. (It's even also true to say he's Irish, in the sense of coming from the island of Ireland). What's wrong with saying he's a British actor from Northern Ireland? Sean Connery is a British actor from Scotland. Richard Burton was a British actor from Wales. Roger Moore is a British actor from England. They're all British. -- JackofOz 22:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Branagh was born in an area whose citizens can have British or Irish or both nationalities, and passports. Neither Scottish or Welsh citizens can automatically get a different passport as no other existing sovereign state has a claim on these territories. Common practice in the case of NI persons is to describe then as NI actors/people - or as Irish or British depending on the individuals own views. To avoid giving offence it is best not to superimpose the Irish Question/British occupation or whatever one wishes to call it - on articles where it has no significant relevance. Describing someone as British by virtue of their birth in Belfast is unwise without further reference as to the individuals views - in the the absence of this (unnecessary) referencing, you should describe him as a Northern Irish actor. As to the inane, xenophobic/nationalist comment 'If certain British citizens are so offended by their own Britishness, they're free to emigrate elsewhere.' I would suggest you study history - and English: British refers to England, Scotland and Wales only - which is why said passport says United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland. The UK has never claimed NI to be Britain, it claims it to be a part of the UK - and with the Northern Ireland Act 1998, this is only claimed as a part of a joint process with Ireland. Referring to someone from Belfast as 'British' with no further work is Original Research at best, and POV or trolling at worst. 71.204.133.75 00:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the flattery. To the extent that I stand corrected, I stand corrected. Is it the case that a NI person with an Irish passport can change his mind and obtain a British one? Or vice-versa? And can they do this as often as their whims and caprices dictate? Would our articles on such people have to be updated every time this happens? Can they hold both Irish and UK passports simultaneously, and if so, where would we stand? I'm just curious about how far this issue might have to be taken in an extreme case. JackofOz 00:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually they can get both. And the liklyhood of switch is about the same as someone from Southern Japan flipping between being Korean or Japanese. About the only flip-flop I ever heard of was a Beirut Hostage who later got Irish citizenship as far less countries would be hostile to efforts to release him. It doesn't happen, hopefully in the future as passions are replace by peace, that maybe the case - but then its likely that EU citizenship will be far more relevant than local alliegences, and thus rendering it all irrelevant. 71.204.133.75 22:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Your point about Branagh refusing a British honour does not, of itself, say anything about his Britishness or lack thereof. Many UK citizens (including many from Great Britain) have refused British honours for reasons that generally have nothing to do with a desire to not be associated with British institutions. Indeed, in some cases they’ve refused only because of the "lowly" status of the honour, eg. they declined the offer of a OBE or CBE because what they really wanted was a knighthood or an OM or CH, which, in some cases, was subsequently offered and accepted. Maybe Kenneth is hanging in there until he's made Sir Kenneth, who knows. -- JackofOz 00:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Kenneth is known to be Anglican, that means there is a high degree of probability he considers himself British, but this is not a certainty. I think this is all a red herring, this article in no way benefited from making a first sentence declaration of his 'Britishness', which served merely to politice it. You'll note I did not advocate switching it to "Irish Actor", as neither would that have benefited the article enough to merit a line one listing. Saying he is British, absolutely, as a matter of birth in Belfast makes as much sense as saying Darwin is part of Indonesia because some nationalist general in Indonesia believes it is part of a greater Indonesia. Then there's the matter of whether you would call all Irish people British, after all Britain will give a passport at any stage to someone born in Ireland before 1922; which will then confer their grandchildren with the possibility of being a Subject of Britain in addition to or instead of a Citizen of Ireland. The bottom line is in the case of NI, an individual's nationality is not as clear cut as in a widely recognised, and unoccupied nation state, and is generally down to the individual. It's just unnecessary in this article, needless politisation. 71.204.133.75 22:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I tried to do some research on this. I found a newspaper interview where he says that even though he left Belfast when he was nine years old, "I feel Irish. I don't think you can take Belfast out of the boy." Later he says "I remember quickly adopting an English accent for school, while keeping the Irish one for home," and "Being Irish, I'd always had this love of words".[1] I don't know what that says about his citizenship, but obviously he identifies with Irishness on a personal level. Downstage right (talk) 14:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
He was born in Northern Ireland, to Northern-Irish parents, but self-identifies as Irish - which is the important one. I believe that Wikipedia respects a persons preference to nationality. White43 (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to break it to yet another O'Wikipedian, but self-identification and nationality are not related. I self-identify as English, but my nationality is still British. 86.2.64.179 (talk) 14:07, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

He supports Linfield and Rangers which leads one to the opinion that he is British first, and Irish merely by virtue of geographical birth. Peter O'Toole is Irish but was born in Britain. Branagh is British, but born on the island of Ireland —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.145.93 (talk) 08:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

People from Northern Ireland have the right to be "British, Irish or both, if they so choose" per the Belfast Agreement. Kenneth has self identified as "Irish". Where is the debate? There is a clear bigotry at work here. This cannot be allowed on an encyclopedia, otherwise it makes a mockery of the entire site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.45.222.60 (talk) 10:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

See my comment about an inch above. It's possible to call oneself Irish but be British by nationality (the UK is a nation of nations, in case that passed you by). You keep your claims of bigotry - what about the armies of bigots who scream with anger when anyone dares point out that Obama is 16 times less Irish than he is British, or remind O'Wikipedians that The Edge and Adam Clayton are British: born in Britain to Britons and still holding British passports? Yeah, no Irishman has EVER been biased against the UK or its people. Cry your "bigot" river somewhere else. 86.2.64.179 (talk) 14:11, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

I'd say you're right about the bigotry but there's plenty of it still in Northern Ireland. Branagh has a British passport, he's a British citizen, so he's British. 86.180.37.142 (talk) 20:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

A couple of points on this. (1)There is no such thing as a British Passport. There is a passport covering the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (2)While the Belfast Agreement allows people of Northern Ireland to claim to be British or Irish I personally don't know anyone who would refer to anyone in Northern Ireland as anything other than Irish. You can be a UK citizen and English, Scottish or Welsh. Certainly you can be both a UK citizen and Irish as well? 87.194.162.141 (talk) 15:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


I DOP NOT KNOW anyone in NI who would DARE call the majority IRISH..Have you been to NI? Do you know anything about us??? See NOT.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.230.38 (talk) 23:26, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

The UK government office responsible for issuing passports refers to UK Passports as - guess what - "British Passports", see the WP article entitled "British Passport" for more info. The opinions of your personal circle of friends don't really enter the equation, nor should they. The terms "British" and Irish" are not mutually exclusive, so I suggest ignoring Brannagh's British citizenship is indefensible in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.76.233 (talk) 22:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


There IS such a thing as a BRITISH passport (IS what has always been called since the ADJECTIVE pertaining to the UK is BRITSISH)... AND MOST NI PROTESTANTS dislike being called IRISH ..Would NEVER carry an IRISH passport, even though technically are entitled..Such are taken by the RC minority..Get it straight...ONLY an oddball minority of Loyalists would ever apply for an Irish passport... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.230.38 (talk) 23:18, 28 May 2014 (UTC) Seems to me the British Nationality Act 1981 is clear that someone born in the UK and who was a UK citizen at the required date (with rights of abode and work in the UK) is a British Citizen. This applies to the whole of the UK and not just that part defined as Great Britain. The fact that Branagh has accepted a Knight Bachelor also seems pretty definitive that he is a British Citizen and that is his nationality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leedschris (talkcontribs) 21:51, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

NEVER read such RUBBISH..IN WHAT WE ALL CALL A BRITISH passport we are described as BRITISH citizen...Includes the MAJORITY of us in NI who have such....A case of others telling US what we are ..Citizen of UK =BRITISH..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.230.38 (talk) 23:09, 28 May 2014 (UTC) A LOT here NEED to know to call MOST people from Northern Ireland IRISH is taken as an insult.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.230.38 (talk) 23:13, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

The guy played Henry V (one of the English greats) and a Colonel in the British Army... calling him just 'Irish' will no doubt mean people will be confused about his nationality. He came from an Anglican family and said family then moved to Reading in Southern England to avoid The Troubles - not Manchester, not Liverpool... bloody Reading! Quite frankly, I see any deviation from 'British actor from Northern Ireland' as biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.64.223 (talk) 16:21, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Thor[edit]

Is he legit going to direct Thor? There's no source, and I haven't heard anything like it.70.179.98.58 (talk) 23:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

He is in talks about the possibility of directing it but nothing has been signed or decided. It should not be listed here per WP:CRYSTAL until a final decision is made. MarnetteD | Talk 00:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I would like to formulate a sentence or 2 about his cultural and religious insensitivity as a director, regarding the casting of idris as Heimdel in Thor. There are many scandinavian people and comic fans who are furious for this kind of violation and feel hurt by it, much as if Muhammad was portrayed as white or the Queen of England, a black woman. Someone get back to me so we can start and negotiate the format.PeterHarlington (talk) 14:55, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

If you can find the sources, by all means please do. Remember it can't just be your own point-of-view though, it needs to be backed up by source material. JonChappleTalk 14:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
To follow up on JonChapple's recommendation IMO you need to proceed with caution. At the moment you look to be a WP:SPA with a POV ax to grind. If you can provide any sourcing for your assertions I would suggest that it belongs on the article for the film. Per WP:UNDUE it would have limited usefulness on this article. You might also want to investigate any praise for his cultural sensitivity in his portrayal of the Scandinavian character Wallander. MarnetteD | Talk 16:24, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Audio Books?[edit]

There is a sentence listed in Branagh's film work detailing his work in audio books. This is sentence is obviously misplaced. Any ideas on where to move it or wether to remove it competely? In my opinion it is not notable enough to warrant its own section. TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

There is a significant "discography and audiobooks" list towards the end of the article so it would seem sensible that this aspect is covered in the description of Branagh's career. The sentence you're objecting to is not in a section of its own, but only under a sub-heading. I don't see a problem. Exok (talk) 23:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Edits on 24 Oct[edit]

An IP editor keeps adding Irish nationality with three poor references, WP:OR in all cases as the facts arent in them. The three that are given include "Kenneth Branagh is also of Irish descent"- not Irish nationality or citizenship, "Branagh moved to Reading when he was still in primary school, but has credited his Irish background for his love of language" with the ironic point of this interview in accpecting a royal honor which (Bachelor Knight) can be only bestowed on British citizens (if he had dual nationality he would have had to ask the Irish government for premission to recieve) and "I feel more Irish than English. I feel freer than British, more visceral, with a love of language. Shot through with fire in some way. That's why I resist being appropriated as the current repository of Shakespeare on the planet. That would mean I'm part of the English cultural elite, and I am utterly ill-fitted to be", again this is the closest but does not give his nationality or citizenship over ethnic background or does not affirm that he believes himself to be solely Irish either (and I re-emphasize that it is still not clear over nationality/citizenship or etnicity). Murry1975 (talk) 19:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Agree, his nationality must be explicitly verified. However this issue can be avoided all together by just simply stating his nation of birth, Northern Ireland.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:22, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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May be start w/r/t biography project, but has a bit of interesting detail and is in my view B w/r/t Belfast project. however is not that important to Belfast so... mid. ++Lar: t/c 17:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I upgraded importance to high as Branagh is one of the most famous of Belfast people. Also, he gained some local acclaim for his role as Billy in the Billy Plays before his more mainstream, international reknown. --Mal 03:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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Needs expansion, filmography should be split ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 05:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Northern Ireland is not even a Country so He is not Irish[edit]

Northern Ireland is a region which is part of Britain, just like Scotland and Wales

Everybody in Northern Ireland are British having a British citizen and British passport

there is no such thing as Irish Citizen in Northern Ireland

so He is British — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.10.55.222 (talk) 14:47, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

According to the British government Northern Ireland is one of the four countries that make up the United Kingdom. Indeed more people in NI selected Northern Irish as their sole identity in the last census than those that choose Irish, so it is a valid identity which simply means someone from Northern Ireland. Also there is such a thing as Irish citizens in NI due to the GFA. Mabuska (talk) 10:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Do you even read his Bio? He moved to England since he was 9. He is not Northern Irish anymore despite there is no such thing as North Irish Nationality. Northern Ireland is not even a nation. prove me that there is such thing as Northern Irish Citizen, now. and He has been living in England for his life for over 50 years now and on — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.10.55.50 (talk) 15:15, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

1.Prove that There is such thing as Northern Irish Citizen. 2.Prove that There is even North Irish Passport. 3. Prove that Northern Irish is a country. It has never been formed as a Country since the Beginning. It is a Region from the start. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.10.55.50 (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Collaborations[edit]

Collaborations seems a little arbitrary (extending this to other individuals would be arduous and of little value), the table herein could grow significantly to cover all twice-credited actor that gets a mention, surely adding prose to cover the significant and or multiple project co-works would be more beneficial especially if either party had direct hire/recommendation/red line/line in sand authority/investment/pull and these should really be differentiated.121.99.108.78 (talk) 08:39, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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