Talk:Khalida Jarrar

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Israeli denial of medical treatment[edit]

This whole section seems to be a bit of a tempest in a teacup. The linked article does not say she was denied medical treatment, only that she was initially told she does not need an exit permit, and then when she tried to cross without one, it turned out she actually does. She applied for such a permit, and got one (see the Adameer article in the "External Links" section), and got her treatment in Jordan. Accordingly I am removing this section, All Rows4 (talk) 02:26, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

As the source states "She was not allowed to exit." There is no question that her ability to receive medical care is limited by the Israeli occupiers. 70.50.122.38 (talk) 02:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
No , what it says, if we don;t cherry-pick statements out of context , is that she "had to apply for an exit permit via the Civil Administration's health coordinator." And, as the Adammeer link shows, she was allowed to exit once she did that All Rows4 (talk) 04:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
This is clearly just POV pushing by All Rows4, the information is well cited and NPOV. Gouncbeatduke (talk) 12:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Please read my argument and respond to it. All Rows4 (talk) 14:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Human right activist?[edit]

How is a member of a terrorist organization that purposefully murders Jewish children considered a "human rights" activist? Also, why is an anti-Semitic hate site like Mondoweiss being used as a source? - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.203.136.223 (talkcontribs)

Administartive detntion[edit]

How do we resolve the contradiction between claims that she is under administrative detention (which is detention without charges or trial) , and the fact that she has been charged, and her trial begun? All Rows4 (talk) 13:51, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

She was arrested for flouting the August 2014 exile order, which was framed as administrative detention. The commanding officer on 2 April said that was the reason for her arrest and imprisonment. Then a trial was slated, which looks like be delayed, the problem for the Israeli authorities being that the 'evidence' is secreted away and not available to the defendant or her lawyers, which means that putting her on trial, esp. since this case is closely followed abroad, is a tricky business. Until the actual trial takes place and is reported by sources, we have no option but to sit with what sources say. Newspapers are often stupid, and journalists careless about actually thinking about the consequences of their copy-and-paste editorializing.Nishidani (talk) 14:59, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
I've now clarified the distinction which is made in Addameer's comuniques.Nishidani (talk) 15:47, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, it reads much better now. All Rows4 (talk) 17:27, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


Duplicate info[edit]

Nishidani, is there a particular reason why the 2nd paragarph needs to state that Ghassan "has been arrested 14 times and spent 11 years", and then two lines later, again state "her husband has been detained 14 times and imprisoned for 11 years"? All Rows4 (talk) 16:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes. There's no reason why in a wikibio on a woman who has been repeatedly detained by Israeli authorities, should not contain information given in articles relating about her, and her spouse, who is a witness to her life, and suffered the same persistent arrest she has. Why keep it out? Compare
Binjamin Netanyahu' Sara was working as a flight attendant while she was completing a master's degree in psychology.[244] .'
Barack Obama:'In June 1989, Obama met Michelle Robinson when he was employed as a summer associate at the Chicago law firm of Sidley Austin.[354] Assigned for three months as Obama's adviser at the firm, Robinson joined him at several group social functions, but declined his initial requests to date.[355] . . The Obamas have two Portuguese Water Dogs, the first, a male named Bo, a gift from Senator Ted Kennedy.[360] In August 2013, Bo was joined by Sunny, a female.[361].'
Tony Blair:'enrolled as a pupil barrister, and met his future wife, Cherie Booth (daughter of the actor Tony Booth). . .Cherie Booth, a Roman Catholic and future Queen's Counsel '
Silvio Berlusconi:'Il Foglio, one of the most influential Italian right-wing newspapers, is partially owned by his wife, Veronica Lario. After Lario sold some of her ownership in 2010, Paolo Berlusconi acquired a majority interest in the newspaper.'
Yeah I know. Other stuff exists. But I see no reason, as always, no reason why Palestinians should be treated differently from anyone else in their wikibios. Uh, oh, of course, Palestinians must not be treated like other people, because a suspicion hangs over their homo sapiens taxonomy as such.Nishidani (talk) 19:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Please reread what I asked you, not what you imagine I asked. That sentence appears TWICE, separated by less than 20 words. why does it need to be there TWICE? All Rows4 (talk) 19:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)