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Are knees allowed in kickboxing?[edit]

This article doesn't clarify the rules for knees in kickboxing. All it says on knees is this: QUOTE: "Kickboxing is often confused with Muay Thai, also known as Thai Boxing. The two sports are similar, however, in Thai Boxing, kicks below the belt are allowed, as are strikes with knees and elbows."

This part doesn't state anything for sure. It does imply knee strikes are not allowed in kickboxing yet nothing concrete. Then near the bottom of the article there is a whole section detailing the kinds of knees used in kickboxing. So are they allowed or aren't they? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.159.90 (talk) 22:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Adithada is the parent art of Muay Thai[edit]

Excuse me, but to whoever wrote that. Please provide reliable references for such a claim. Just because a kickboxing art was developed in X area, it does not follow that another kickboxing art from area B descends from the former.

Source on Aditha[edit]

The reference page provided is very unreliable and quotes many myths such as Bodhidharma being the founder of martial arts in Japan and China as if they were fact. The claims that it is the 'oldest form of kickboxing' and that it is a 'possible predecessor of Muay Thai' should be removed or better references provided.CKava 09:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

agreed... muay thai practitioners have their own ideas on what their history is also.

Gear and rules.[edit]

The opening paragraph states that male kickboxers wear boxing shorts, while most full contact kickboxers wear long windbreaker type pants. There's also no mention of different kickboxing rules such as full contact, freestyle, or oriental. There is no nose protection. I am a kickboxer myself and in my training 33% of our kicks are below the belt. I edited the page to say that training does include knees and elbows, because it does.

I understand why the above editor added the information that they did. I did however remove it as it added more regionally specific information to clarify other regionally specific information. To say in kickboxing "x is true is difficult" because tradition and laws regarding technique and gear may vary greatly. For example, I watched an "International Muay Thai" fight in California, that allowed no knees, elbows, or kicks below the waist, and where both competitors were Americans. In short, this article needs serious cleanup, and probably more citations, though probaly at the cost of becoming bloated and vague. I personally don't know where to start, but am open to suggestions. --Technotaoist (talk) 11:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I've been working on improving the articles on muay thai and various kickboxers, i'd be more than happy to see someone finally starting to work on this one. I wud start from the history section, everything with references added. (Marty Rockatansky (talk) 07:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC))

Kick boxing vs Boxers...[edit]

Check this out dudes...

http://www.k-1usa.net/docs/fighters/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=581 I wonder who has this, but Briggs won in 1 round, good to know, good to try.

Copy-editing required[edit]

Someone needs to go over this article to remove some of the run-on sentences and to correct the lack of commas.24.92.224.252 20:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Constant removal of factural information[edit]

Why are people constantly removing factural information. The fact that W.A.K.O is the only kickboxing body recognised by GAISF is true. And to remove it and claim another body is a governing body is untrue and misleading. Please accept the facts and leave them alone.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richieg-nz (talkcontribs) 22:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC) If people do not know what they are talking about, DO NOTHING. the article on kickboxing is so misleading and it seems that is has been tampered with so many times by people who have no idea. I don't agree with most of it and i am a kickboxer myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.186.219 (talk) 16:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Not all facts are pertinent. It is a fact that I am a kickboxer. That fact does not belong in the article. This is one of the reasons why a particular fact may have been removed. Just my $0.02 --Technotaoist (talk) 00:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Ture, not all facts on this article are factural or related to the primary topic. But reference the GAISF site and it clearly states what organisation it sees as governing the amateur sport. That surely has place on the Wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.168.226 (talk) 08:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Japanese Kickboxing Section[edit]

It is just me, or is this section just way too big? It looks like a copy/ paste of the "PROFESSIONAL RULES AND REGULATIONS WORLD KICKBOXING ASSOCIATION". I don't want to do a massive delete of the information, but perhaps it could be split off? --Technotaoist (talk) 04:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Kickboxing is wasei-eigo(Made-in-Japan English)[edit]

Kickboxing(キックボクシング) is wasei-eigo (220.106.174.109 (talk) 14:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC))

Merger proposal[edit]

I feel that the Japanese and American kickboxing articles should be merged they don't have any third person sources to justify solo articles. Dwanyewest (talk) 15:35, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I concur. In the article "Kickboxing" it denotes the various different forms, i.e. American, Japanese, International, and provides detailed information on each. The article "American kickboxing" is almost a carbon copy, with the addition of some historical data regarding American Kickboxing. Also, on a personal note, the improper grammar in the title is killing me! Squirrelfighter (talk) 22:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
There are a couple of agreements at WT:WPMA. You should probably only post things at one location. Papaursa (talk) 01:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Images[edit]

I realize it isn't easy to tell Muay Thai apart from American/Japanese Kickboxing just from stills (yeah, unless the fighters are ethnic Thais, but that's just suggestive, nothing stops Thais from boxing under American rules, or Europeans from boxing under Thai rules), but it is still itching me that the image in the infobox shows a Muay Thai match. Surely, we can find an image taken at a match under actual kickboxing rules? --dab (𒁳) 14:35, 4 April 2012 (UTC) People use kick boxing for fun, and for exercise to you keep you health. Many people say it's keep you safe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosabaily1 (talkcontribs) 21:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)