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"Luther's 1545 German translation, from the texts used by the Catholic Church". Didn't Luther use the MT, rather than the Vulgate? If I'm wrong, then why say it this way - what does the Catholic Church have to do with this point of translation - just say that his translation relied on the Latin at this point? Also, wasn't his translation from 1534? TomS TDotO (talk) 13:46, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Luther continually revised his version, especially the Old Testament, so the 1545 edition (his last) is the definitive Luther Bible, and the text accessible on the internet. Luther's Hebrew scholarship was very basic; and for the most part his German version relied much more on contemporary scholarly Latin versions than directly on the Hebrew text. But as you say, the reference to the Catholic Church here is likely excessive; the main objects of Luther's spleen were rather those humanist Christian Hebraists responsible for the crime (in Luther's terms) of translating the Hebrew Bible on its own terms, as a text of Hebrew grammar and philology; without correction from the perfect revelation offered in the New Testament. TomHennell (talk) 14:53, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I tried to add a section called "Shakespeare-KJV oddity", but someone deleted it, a while back
The King James Version, being published during the life and work of William Shakespeare, in 1611, contains the words "Shake" and "speare" 46 words in from the beginning of Psalm 46, and 46 words in from the end of Psalm 46, when skipping the word "Selah".
It's a bizarre "coincidence", or not one at all, and seems rather notable as an oddity or... whatever it is. Misty MH (talk) 22:29, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
This is not a needed edit. One can find a "coincidental" inclusion of all words, and none of the others are being focused on. To me, it's either all or nothing. Either we should make an effort to include all such coincidences, or we should include none of them. As including them would make this article far too long, my vote is to leave it as it is. I would be unalterably opposed to such a "special case" change, which smacks of potential neutrality problems. Other thoughts, or can this discussion be closed? --Jgstokes (talk) 03:38, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I write to express my frustration. This article used to have a functional set of references: clicking on the small number in the body of the article brought up a link that, if clicked, would lead directly to the relevant page of the reference. Now half of them lead nowhere: they are divided between "References", "Footnotes" and "Citations" in a way that serves no-one. Is this the result of some obscure edit war? Ugh. Grover cleveland (talk) 17:50, 30 June 2016 (UTC)