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- 1 Third largest retailer in the world?
- 2 In addition, Kmart attempted to compete against Wal-Mart on price
- 3 Headline text
- 4 Blue light special and blue plate special?
- 5 Failure reasons
- 6 Super-K and Big-K
- 7 Kmart in Australia & culture
- 8 WikiProject: Retailing
- 9 Roseanne reference
- 10 NPOV Issue
- 11 Talk:Christmas controversies/Merge proposal
- 12 Fair use rationale for Image:Bigkmart.jpg
- 13 Confusion with Kress stores
- 14 Early history, Kresge stores
- 15 Organization
- 16 K-Cafe
- 17 Disambiguation page needed?
- 18 Bluelight Internet Service
- 19 S. S. Kresge stores
- 20 Early video game release
- 21 Check the math
- 22 Spelling error? CorpAration?
- 23 Revenue error
- 24 Original K-mart Logo
- 25 Annual reports 1995-2000
- 26 TV Ads
- 27 Fixing pictures
- 28 KDollar seems to be gone
Third largest retailer in the world?
It is mentioned that Kmart is the third largest retailer in the world. However, it's parent company, Sears Holdings Corporation, is listed (in its own article) as the tenth largest retailer in the world. How can this be accurate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 03:49, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
In addition, Kmart attempted to compete against Wal-Mart on price
In addition, Kmart attempted to compete against Wal-Mart on price, which failed because Wal-Mart contrived to meet and beat Kmart's price cuts.
Puh-leeeeze. Maybe it's just me, but the notion of contriving carries with it a rather clear suggestion of conspiracy, scheming, and subterfuge. I'd feel more comfortable with "opted", "was able", or "diabolically reset its pricing so as".
anon comment moved from article
I don not know what all you you people out there think about Kmart but yea so if you would like to know there are not many at all that are called kmart any more, and so it is weird that they have kmart on the home page name when now it is really called the big K and so yea that is why i thought that that was weird you know what i am saying any who, so i am looking for a store layout, and did you hear about belling and he was on the radio station, and he made a barogitory comment, and yea so a lot of people who were that culture, were preety affended, anyways so do you think that martha stewart is guilty, or what about michelle Jackson? I think that he is innocent, but what ever i do not beleive in gay marrages do you? What ever well so yea so this is all about Kmart --[anon]
Blue light special and blue plate special?
Anyone know about the origin of the "blue light special" and, specifically, whether the phrase was intended to echo the phrase Blue-plate special? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 11:04, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I don't know whether the intent was to echo blue-plate special, but as I recall, the K-mart term came from a flashing blue light that would indicate the location of a temporary (perhaps in-store) special. An loudspeaker would also make announcements about the special. older≠wiser 12:54, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Sure. The canonical announcement was "Attention, K-Mart shoppers!" And the blue light was on a sort of cart with a post that raised it high enough above the shelving to be visible throughout the store. The question is, was the name (and perhaps the choice of light color) intended to echo or evoke the restaurant phrase? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 13:06, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The story of the attempted "revival" of this Blue Light thing is probably the biggest example of marketing and business stupidity I've ever read in my entire life.
I can't find a reference but I understand that since Kmart's color is red it was orginally the Red Light Special. Since red light has a somewhat bad connation as in red light district, it was changed to blue. 22.214.171.124 18:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I do agree that not setting up proper inventory control (IT) was a big mistake. However, i think what really killed them was when they started buying other business that were not low priced. If they stayed within the Kmart store concept, they had a chance of surviving even with a poor inventory control. So issentially, the biggest mistake started in mid 80's. The second major thing that brought them down was poor management ethics. Dig a bit on Charles Conaway, James Adamson, Mark Schwartz etc. I think the company deserved going down when you have such greedy leaders. Oh, and i almost forgot, the store managers did their part to bring the company down. Even when there was some kind of inventory control system, they avoided using them because that would have meant doing away with shelf revenue. What i mean is, they were happy to take the slowest moving items at expense of fast moving goods if the former paid well lending to frequent stock out. Very retarded action i would say
- An interesting character, Mark Schwartz, i think worked as an executive for walmart in realty related business, left in 1996, when that business filed for backruptcy. Headed to Hechinger Company and left a week before the company filed bankruptcy. Ended up in Big V Supermarkets and .. you got it... left weeks before they filed for bankruptcy. Ha, you would think they guy will never get a job anywhere else. Wrong, the guy ended up in Kmart, implemented Blue Light Always strategy and cranked up inventory by up to 8.3 billion dollars in 2001 christmas. Apparently, people shopped elsewhere and when January of 2002 came, oops we can't be able to pay our suppliers and the rest is history .. sorry all the above is history. This is the fun part though, the guy got a $3 million parting gift for doing a very good job. What am i to say Kmart, good riddance.
This page is to be used for discussion of the accuracy of the article. Not for ones own opinions as to why a company has become unsuccessful. Shouldn't this be removed?
Super-K and Big-K
Super Kmart still exists. There is one here in Chillicothe, Ohio. I thik Little Caesars is what keeps it open though. They do have somewhat of a good location though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 06:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Kmart in Australia & culture
Umm, Kmart remains a strong name in Australia, with many ads on primetime TV and in print, it is one of the main department store chains in South Australia at least. I don't know anything about failure or decaying stores, but I wonder why it isn't on this page? I passed three different Kmarts on my way to work this morning, even bought summat from my nearest store on the way back. Kmart in Australia is very popular as a very large department store that offers a range of goods, from books, extensive clothing range, jewlery, hifi, videogames, music, movies, linen, housegoods, a snack food range and many stores feature a plant nursery and garden section. It is also popular because the stores are clean, large and there are so many of them that you can be certain that one is near where you live.
Kmart in Australia is also famous for being a generic clothing seller and bad clothing is often reffered to as Kmart as an insult. Plain clothing is also famous for being "Kmart", comedian Billy Connely once joked that when Christians find Jesus they also find Kmart, as Christians here are famous for wearing tweed cardigans and other poor choices in attire.
Kmart may just be a small chain of department stores that failed in America, but in Australia they are top shit. Kmart is even doing better than the our failing Harris Scarf department store and increasingly failing Myer (Grace Bros in America, I believe) stores. So, what gives? Is wikipedia an encyclopedia for American POV and life only?
Sure Aus has it's own page, but why not put the link at the top of the page or disembag it alltogether? JayKeaton 17:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm the one who laid out the newly-split Kmart article, and my thought process was that it was a related topic, though separate from the US operation, thus in the "see also" section. If you think it can be done better, please be bold and fix it up. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure how to cleanly join two articles. The Australian KMart may now have a different "holder" or summat, but I don't think that it deserves it's own page, rather the American and Australian Kmart should just be on wiki/Kmart together. I will try and look into how other pages have been combined. JayKeaton 08:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- No matter which country they are in or how seperate they are, they are BOTH still Kmarts JayKeaton 11:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello, a new WikiProject called Retailing has been created, and we invite anyone who is interested in joining to sign up. If you would like to join it, then list your name on Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Retailing. Tuxide 00:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I saw that episode on its recent N@N airing, and indeed Kmart is correct. I got it confused with another dumpster reference from that same season, which was where Leon says that the Lanford Lunch Box's main competition is the dumpsters behind McDonald's. So mea culpa on that one. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
"Kmart is a cheap ass rip off of Wal-Mart. Though it was made first, it should be burned to the ground."
What does this have to do with anything (other than sparking an NPOV debate)?
WAVY 10 14:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
How can it be a rip off when it was created first????
Tuxide 21:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Bigkmart.jpg
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Confusion with Kress stores
The Kress store entry mistakenly connects that retailer to Kmart. S. H. Kress started his chain after selling to McCory five and dime which was a competitor and maybe partner with S. S. Kresge. Kress left that business about the same time Kresge stores left the town centers in favor of Kmart. Mulp (talk) 14:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Early history, Kresge stores
Is there any source for the early history of the company, and the transition from Kresge stores to K-Mart? My town had a Kresge 5 and 10 store downtown, in the 70's, until about a year or so after a K-Mart was built on the outskirts of town. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sevesteen (talk • contribs) 01:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- triple ditto second on that. I remember when Kresge stores were a major player in discount retaiing, along with Woolworth, and others. I remember when those five and dimes were the small retail business killers, long before Wal-Mart, or Kmart. Kresge should really have its own page in my opinion. And the Kresge entry would be in the "five and dime" category. In any case, Kresge, Kress, Woolworth, and others were iconic stores that changed retailing in the first half of the 20th century. I'm no authority on retailing, but I do remember the days before the shopping center discount stores and the in town discount "five and dime" stores, which would include the non-discount Sears and Monky Wards in town center. Mulp (talk) 13:45, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- There were also Kresge Marts, which had a very similar logo to that period's KMart. I remember one was in the Pontiac Mall (now Summit Place Mall) in Pontiac, MI until at least the early eighties. --188.8.131.52 (talk) 16:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- The comment about Kresge Marts was from me, sorry I didn't realize I wasn't logged in.--Banksnld (talk) 16:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I think that the headlines in this article that thalk about K-mart's history should be organized into one headline with some sub-headlines instead of having 6 different headlines about K-mart's history. And, if this were to be done, some of the headlines would have to be rewritten or reorganized. -(Wikipedian1234 (talk) 19:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC))
Disambiguation page needed?
The list of athletes with the nickname "Kmart" is getting to be rather long at the top of the article. Any opinions on rewording this to:
- For the Australian department store chain, see Kmart Australia. For athletes with the nickname "K-Mart", see Kmart (nicknames)
Then list all of the notable athletes at that article? (or we could just use:
- For the Australian department store chain, see Kmart Australia. For other uses, see Kmart (disambiguation)
- I agree. It looks really cluttered, and if they do that, people can find stuff faster.184.108.40.206 (talk) 00:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 22:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Bluelight Internet Service
In the article there is a reference:
The service as of August 2006 costs $14.95 a month and has around 165,000 subscribers.
Is this for real? 165,000 subscribers to Bluelight? Or, is that 165,000 subscribers, throughout the "United Online" service (which accompanys Bluelight, Juno, and NetZero....as a whole).
I just can't see 165,000 subscribers - using Bluelight "alone" - granted, 2006 was "peak times" for "free Internet" (with, or without floating ad-banners).
S. S. Kresge stores
There seems to be no separate article on the S. S. Kresge "dime stores", nor is there anything substantive about them here. Either they deserve a section in this article or an article of their own. - Jmabel | Talk 04:25, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Early video game release
Shouldn't there be something about the controversy over theme putting video games out before release date? (or am I getting the store confused with another one) 18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC) ghoohg Tuesday, Jan 26 2010
Check the math
"As of January 30, 2010, Kmart operated a total of 1,327 (13 closing by late May) Kmart stores across 49 states, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. This store count included 1,361 discount stores, averaging 92,000 sq ft (8,500 m2), and 32 Super Centers, averaging 165,000 sq ft (15,300 m2)." How can the total be 1327 if it includes 1361 discount stores and 32 Super Centers (total of 1393)? --Khajidha (talk) 18:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Spelling error? CorpAration?
Noticed that in the overview section under 'Founded' that 'corporation' is spelt 'corparation' twice. I've amended it but acknowledge it might be historically accurate spelling. If it is, please revert the spelling and leave a note here for future gnomes.
The revenue figure for 2010 said '$15.593 million'.
I'm just picking through the Kmart financial report for 2010 and someone mistook the comma for a decimal place. It's actually $15,593 million, or $15.593 BILLION.
Here's a link to the financial report PDF: http://www.searsholdings.com/invest/docs/SHC_2010_Form_10-K.PDF#pagemode=thumbs&page=1&zoom=100,0,0
The figures for Kmart are on page 28. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong?
Original K-mart Logo
It would be interesting if anyone had a picture of the early K-mart logo where they actually had an SS (for SS Kresge) incorporated into the vertical leg of the K in K-Mart. K-mart, into the 70's, also used to have a stripe that ran around the wall of the entire store, above head level, with SSK in it.14:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk)
Annual reports 1995-2000
If anyone wants to see annual reports from 1995-2000:
It appears the Super Kmart pictured in this article is out of business. http://www.cleveland.com/brooklyn/index.ssf/2014/08/all_sales_are_final_at_the_bro.html 126.96.36.199 (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
KDollar seems to be gone
I moved the KDollar section from Current Subsidiaries to Former Subsidiaries, and edited it to use the past tense. It appears that neither of the stores listed is still open, and I could not find any mention of KDollar or their logo on KMart's website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)