Talk:M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle

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BARs in Abyssinia[edit]

I recently came across a photograph from the Italian invasion of Abyssinia (now Ethiopia). The photo shows two deceased Ethiopian soldiers and what is clearly two early-style (1918) BARs propped up on their position.

Anyone know how BARs ended up in Ethiopia during that period (late 1930s)? The photo in question is in a book; if I could find it online I would provide a link.

How long were they in inventory?[edit]

I have a relative who went through USAF basic training in 1977 and was trained on the BAR. Seems like a long time after it would be frontline issue.

Just out of curiousity, how long were they officially in service?

i dont no the exact date it was retired but i no it was probaly retired soon after reltive used it or 80's, but i no it might be still in stocks. they still have original m16

30 Round Magazine?[edit]

Was a 30 Round Magazine ever considered?, Im asking becouse it only took 20 rounds which ran out soon. Did the US ever consider adopting the Bren gun in .30-06 Calibre?User:EX STAB

.303 SAA Ball Variant[edit]

I seen an M1918 Bar in .303 Calibre, Was this a proposed version for the British before using the bren?User:EX STAB

Not standard issue claim?[edit]

It is said in the intro that: "Although the weapon did see some action in World War I, the BAR did not become standard issue in the U.S. Army until 1938"

And yet I have the M1918 automatic rifle referenced multiple times in the basic field manual volume II infantry drill regulations of 1931. Unless there is a solid source for such a strange claim, I believe it should be deleted Thom430 (talk) 17:41, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

it was an assault rifle[edit]

It was an assault rifle beacuse it used short rifle ammunition or carbine ammunition short rifles where super carbines because of that it was intermittent ammunition for it,s time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:443:480:6ED9:146A:66DE:5830:2BB5 (talk) 03:05, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges."[16] In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle: It must be capable of selective fire. It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle, such as the 7.92×33mm Kurz, the 7.62x39mm and the 5.56x45mm NATO. Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine. It must have an effective range of at least 300 metres (330 yards).

It is not an assault rifle. It uses .30-06 Springfield (7.62×63mm), .303 British (7.7×56mmR), 7.92×57mm Mauser(M1918, M1922, M1918A1, M1918A2), 7.92×57mm Mauser (wz. 1928), and 6.5×55mm (Kg m/21, m/37). They're full powered cartidges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:25, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

More important than looking up definitions and then trying to apply them (which is likely WP:SYNTHESIS or WP:OR), is what the best reliable sources specifically classify the BAR as. (Hohum @) 17:29, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

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