Talk:La fille mal gardée

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Concerns regarding fair use images[edit]

Comments have been raised at Wikipedia talk:Fair use regarding the use and quantity of images used in this article under a fair use rationale. The concern is that many of the images may be unnecessary or redundant to one another, and if they are not each serving a separate and substantial informational value for the article, they do not comply with our fair use policies. Source information for some of the photographs is also not clear, making it ambiguous as to whether the fair use rationales are only for the performances depicted in the photographs, the photographs themselves, or both. It would be great if the article's regular contributors, being familiar with the subject matter, could help resolve these issues and explain the need for each fair use image. Thanks! Postdlf 21:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

what is the big deal?[edit]

This is an absolutely ridiculous argument. This seems like more of an issue of opinion to me than anything else - so what if there are alot of fair use images?

I am the sole author of this article, though some of my fellow wikipedians have done copy-edits and other corrections. I added the photos not for cosmetic purposes but for the desire to help elaborate on the subject matter. I'll for ahead and discuss my rationale for using these fair-use images in the article -


- These are the first dancers to perform the role of Lise and Colas (the lead roles of the ballet) in the important 1960 revival of the work by the choreographer Sir Frederick Ashton. The particular pose, costumes, and prop ribbon are almost looked at as being iconic to people familiar with this ballet, and I found it the perfect photo to start this article out with.


- This is a rare photo of the Kirov/Mariinsky Ballet's last production of La Fille Mal Gardee. This ballet company, known in Tsarist times as the Imperial Ballet, had the foremost hand in making this ballet an enduring member of the modern classical ballet repertory. The company's final prudction of La Fille Mal Gardee is discussed in the article and this image helps to elaborate on this.


- this photo is of the Royal Ballet's 1960 production of La Fille Mal Gardee. The photo show the part of the ballet known as the Fanny Elssler Pas de Deux, which is discussed in the article. The photo illustrates well the discussion.


- this photo is also from the Royal Ballet's 1960 production of La Fille Mal Gardee. It is of a part of the ballet known as the Clog Dance which is discussed in the article. The image illustrates the subject matter well.


- this photo is of dancers in the Paris Opera Ballet's production of La Fille Mal Gardee. This production is also discussed in the article, and the photo was added to help illustrate this.


- This photo is of Sara Lamb and Marin Hervey as Lise and Colas in the Royal Ballet's production. I added this photo to show dancers of today performing teh same number as the dancers in the old photos provided in the gallery. I suppose one could delete it, but I dont see why.


- This photo, along with the following two in teh gallery, illustrate the Royal Ballet's decor for their production which I think is a nice touch to an article which discusses this production in the considerable detail it does.

--Mrlopez2681 20:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Please do not lie. You are not the sole author of the article, nor have you been the major editor of the article — you merely swamped the article with your own edits, and, it would appear, attempted to make the article your own property.
Actually, I created the article, plus wrote the plot summary and added the characters list as well as the track listing for the CD (as well as donating the CD cover image for the section).
I am not impressed that you have taken credit for the article. The history of the creation of the article, plus the edits which have been made to the article, are clearly visible. Figaro 23:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


I am very sorry Figaro - I left a message for you on your talk page. --Mrlopez2681 16:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for doing this. All the best. Figaro 07:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:La fille mal gardee CD.jpg[edit]

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Image:La fille mal gardee CD.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Fille Mal Gardee -Royal -Nerina & Blair -2.JPG[edit]

The image Image:Fille Mal Gardee -Royal -Nerina & Blair -2.JPG is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

  • That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
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My minor edits[edit]

Yes, I already know all that Mike Hayes (talk) 05:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Blanking of Recordings section[edit]

The Recordings section of this article has now been blanked twice by Mrlopez2681. On both occasions no explanation or edit summary was given for the removal of this entire section. Would it be helpful to discuss this on the talk page? I think page of guidance (and this particular sub-section) might also be useful: Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 12:33, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

No contrary comments being posted, I have (re)introduced an updated and where possible referenced section on recordings, cutting out some repetition. Added music category.Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 10:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:14, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Now I wish I never added the bloody "recordings" section in the first place. Im the one who originally wrote the recordings section some years back (dig if you like). I went ahead and removed two of the CDs listed which don't contain music from the ballet as Ive since learned, in spite of the fact that these discs list that the music is extracted from this ballet. --Mrlopez2681 (talk) 18:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)


As of January 2015 this article includes significant mentions of Ashton, Lanchbery and Hérold, and should have those article categories reinstated: Ballets by Frederick Ashton - Ballets created for The Royal Ballet - Ballets by John Lanchbery - Ballets by Ferdinand Hérold. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 22:12, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

How can i translate this page?[edit]

I want to translate this page to hebrew from my cell. How can i do it? Thanks. 01nozu (talk) 13:25, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

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