Talk:Labialization

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Can one labialize a labial? -Iopq 10:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Some analyses of Adyghe postulate the phoneme /pʷʼ/. There are also labialised labials in the Australian language Arrernte. Thefamouseccles 03:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, labial consonants generally involve a vertical lip moovment; secondary labialization a horizontal moovment. These can certainly be combined. Phonemic labialized labials also appear in eg. Kabyle language and various Austronesian languages. --Tropylium (talk) 11:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

British or American?[edit]

Is Wikipedia fundamentally British or American? If British, then it needs to be consistently -isation, -ised, -ise, etc. in this article. If American, then -ization, etc. Right now, it's just a mix in this article. (Of course I prefer -ize since it's borrowed from Greek -iz originally and the British misspell it.) (Taivo (talk) 23:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC))

Source for Abkhaz[edit]

Hewitt, George and Khiba, Zaira. Abkhaz Newspaper Reader. Dunwoody Press (Kensington, MD), 1998. pp iii-v --Foszter (talk) 19:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Sound examples[edit]

Well how about adding sound examples for each labialized consonants, like this :

Sound file[edit]

labialized voiceless palato-alveolar sibilant [ʃʷ] doesn't work. --2.245.126.182 (talk) 19:31, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Removed[edit]

For [cʷ], Lao was the only example language given, and there was no sound file. Lao language says that Lao has no palatal plosives; instead of [c] and [cʷ], it has [tɕ] and [tɕʷ]. Given how very often postalveolar affricates are mistranscribed as palatal plosives, I'm strongly inclined to believe the article, and have therefore removed the whole line about [cʷ] from the list here.

For [ʃʷ] and [ʒʷ], German was listed among the examples. The German /ʃ/ is indeed more strongly rounded than the English one; for many speakers it's in fact the most lip-rounded sound of all, because the rounded vowels are made with compressed rounding. However, it's still nowhere near as rounded as, say, an Italian or Abkhaz /kʷ/. I've accordingly removed it from the examples given for [ʃʷ]. The IPA offers diacritics for "more rounded" and "less rounded". – Few if any native German speakers maintain a /ʒ/; attempts to produce [ʒ] in French loans occur, but tend to fail even in the northern varieties that have a robust /z/. That makes two reasons to remove German from the list of examples for [ʒʷ].

David Marjanović (talk) 22:23, 14 November 2015 (UTC)