Talk:Ladies' Night (song)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hoax[edit]

This can't be for real [1] vs. [2]. ~Kvng (talk) 18:01, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to say exactly the same thing. Lately, I've noticed that one can get away with pawning off just about anything as fact on Wikipedia so long as the article in question isn't followed too closely by the right editors, and so long as there's the mere existence of a ref tag and a URL within that ref tag. Well, folks, POPWELL.NET IS A BLOG!!! How hard was that to figure out, and that it may violate WP:RS and WP:V, among others?? While what Popwell says is entirely within the realm of plausibility, my initial read of his blog entry was one of WP:BOLLOCKS written by someone with a hyperactive imagination. The clincher for me was the paragraph claiming that a video in this vein was shot for MTV airplay and that versions exist on YouTube, followed by a YouTube link not to that video but a different one. In Europe, I understand that music videos were semi-common throughout the 1970s, such as on Top of the Pops and the like. Here in the United States, the first music video I ever remember seeing with any semi-regularity was for "Message in a Bottle", which I remember watching on the brand-new platform (for us, at least) known as cable television, right around the same time this song was on the radio constantly. This was in late 1979, or nearly two years before the launch of MTV. Some artists shot videos for their back catalog after videos exploded in popularity, but I doubt that included Kool and the Gang, given that the band's momentum from this song and "Celebration" was waning by the end of 1981. Also remember, back then, American Bandstand, Solid Gold, Soul Train and the like were still all over mainstream terrestrial television, so there wasn't much need for videos until after MTV became popular. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Two other things. First, I'm guessing that the Atomic Kitten version is the one I still hear on the radio every now and then. Even so, three sizable paragraphs of prose devoted to that version versus four sentences for the original version (one devoted to the disputed statement sourced to a blog) amounts to blatant undue weight, wouldn't you think? According to the article, Atomic Kitten's version didn't hit number one anywhere, and there are plenty of editors who believe that every article about a song should consist of little or nothing more than chart worship. Second, while I believe in a liberal approach to populating categories, there are times when things are pretty clear-cut, such as in the case of claiming this to be a song written by Rod Temperton. Given the heavy prevalence of sampling in the late 1980s/early 1990s, it's a stretch to even call Heavy D's version a cover (another instance of undue weight?). RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 07:39, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The way the article is currently written is awful though. The article content should not make reference to the page's own content history, especially when that content is irrelevant and false. -Drdisque (talk) 03:10, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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