Talk:Landau (carriage)

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January 2008

So... is it open, or is it covered? Iamvered (talk) 22:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article says it is a convertible, I.e. can be open at times and coverede at times, according to the passengers' choice. --Etxrge (talk) 15:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 2013

Landau (the town) may be in Germany now but at the time it was a part of France. OK, no one knows exactly when the Landau carriage was invented but the article states they were first noticed by the English in 1743. This is almost 100years after Landau (the town) was captured by the French (1648) and was not returned to Germany until 1815-ish. ref: le Petit Larousse - Dictionaire Encyclopédique - Grand Format (c)1992 - ISBN 978-2-03-301293-9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.78.244 (talk) 23:33, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Image of yellow carriage

Thread moved here from my user talk page. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 19:16, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Landau (carriage)
Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landau_%28carriage%29&oldid=prev&diff=1247603470
An astonishing revert. And without any explanation. After all, it is not a Landaulet carriage, it has a different construction - foremost, it has a non-retractable roof. Actually, the picture shows Warsaw carriage or berlinka. Cf. https://www.newsweek.pl/historia/one-zawsze-beda-piekne/n7sc99q. Michał Ski (talk) 09:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@Michał Ski: Your edit summary stating it was "with closed cabin" was ambiguous because that terminology isn't used in English (I thought you were maybe referring to where the side window would be), the image looked like the rear quarter would retract, and the commons category was "Landaulet carriages in Poland".

However, after researching, I agree with you that the yellow carriage is not a landaulet, but a Berlinet/Berlinette/Berlin coupé.^[1] Other photos of this carriage such as this one more clearly show that the rear section is solid and the curved brace is simply decorative—similar to this other carriage which is described as "berline with false landau".

I am guessing that the -ka in Berlinka is diminutive, giving a meaning such as "a little Berlin". You speak Polish... do I have that correct? ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 19:16, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Grorp: According the photo caption on page 13 of the article by Urszula Brzozowska-Drozdowicz, a conservator in the Museum - Castle in Łańcut, the owner of this carriage, it is a Berline carriage (the last 'e' in 'Berline' seems to be a typo). So I think putting the picture in Berlin (carriage) was correct. However, I am a muggle in the topic of carriages. :-)

The word berlinka may sound like a diminutive but it is not. It actually means 'related to/coming from Berlin'.

BTW: I was not notified about your posts despite the template {{reply}}. I guess it is because of your signature. Michał Ski (talk) 07:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muggle... LOL. Well, @Mr. Muggle:^[a] you sure put me in my place and made me look a lot closer at this carriage and what a Berlin/Berline is! I put all of your links on the image's discussion page for posterity, and a link from the main image page (English) description. If you feel so inclined, you should add a Polish description. (I don't trust google-translate to make good Polish sentences; I only use it to translate to English.) ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 15:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Smith, D.J.M. (1988). A Dictionary of Horse Drawn Vehicles. J. A. Allen & Co. Ltd. p. 15. ISBN 0851314686. OL 11597864M. Berlinet or Berlinette. Diminutive of Berlin. A smaller version of the Berlin with coupé or cut-down bodywork.

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[smith-1] Smith, D.J.M. (1988). A Dictionary of Horse Drawn Vehicles. J. A. Allen & Co. Ltd. p. 15. ISBN 0851314686. OL 11597864M. Berlinet or Berlinette. Diminutive of Berlin. A smaller version of the Berlin with coupé or cut-down bodywork.

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