Talk:Landlocked country

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How is Uzbekistan Doubly Landlocked?[edit]

Kazakhstan has a pretty significant coastline... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:45, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

The Caspian Sea is technically a lake; additionally, on the verge of drying up. kashmiri TALK 14:57, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Citations in the lead section[edit]

@ See WP:LEADCITE. Summing up, citations are best avoided unless subject matter is contentious and a sentence needs backing up. Thus, referencing a simple, non-contentious definition to FOUR dictionaries which all say the same is superfluous, that's also why I keep deleting these useless references (one of them is a dead link anyway).

There is no point to refer to third-party books when mentioning the HDI rank - when Wikipedia itself maintains a list of countries by HDI. Is it a book you wrote? kashmiri TALK 14:55, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

What Kashmiri said. In addition, WP:WHYCITE says that In particular, sources are required for material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, and definition of landlocked country is hardly controversial. Later down the page, you'll find Inline references can significantly bloat the wikitext in the edit window and can become difficult and confusing. I'm removing the spurious references. No such user (talk) 15:44, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

"Original Research" on Landlocked country[edit]

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Hi, I've received notification that you have removed the template I placed and added a source. The reason I placed the template was not about the groupings directly below the template, but the other stuff later on in the section such as "If it were not for the 40 km of coastline...." and "If Transnistria is included then..." It sounds a bit too much like trivia to me. I thought that placing the template under the list of countries was the least obtrusive place for it. But did I use the wrong template? AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 08:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

IMO it falls under the spirit of WP:CALC ("Routine calculations do not count as original research"): it is fairly obvious for anyone looking at the map that Congo is near-landlocked and would join the two clusters if it were counted in; similar for Transnistria. It is slightly original research in the sense that no known source connected those particular dots, but I think it's benign enough to be included in an article which deals a lot with simple topographic analyses – it does not derive any far-reaching conclusions from that factoid. For me, it's a bit of trivia interesting enough to be included in such an article, but maybe someone else has a different opinion. P.S. A better tag would be {{OR}} No such user (talk) 08:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
No such user, thanks for your explanation. I see your point regarding WP:CALC. One could argue the applicability of WP:TRIVIA also, but I ultimately agree with you about it being interesting enough to be included. Thanks, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:40, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Original research in defining clusters[edit]

I think there is an original research in the definition of clusters to group the landlocked countries. MacKellar et al. (2000) in their paper "Economic Development Problems of Landlocked Countries", which is used as a source in the article, do not seem to define clusters in this way and the table in appendix seems to be lacking some landlocked countries and also includes countries with coastline. Also, the paper appears to be obsolete to be cited in the article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Aral Sea[edit]

Moldova sea direct access?[edit]

See in a map (like Google maps for example), Moldova technically had a direct sea access to black sea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:26, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Moldova has a tiny part of the bank of the Danube at Giurgiulești, and reaches within about 2 kilometres of the Dniester Estuary near Palanca, Ștefan Vodă, but is nonetheless landlocked by any reasonable definition. Kahastok talk 13:47, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Citation needed on Azerbaijan?[edit]

There is a 'citation needed' next to the reference tag on Azerbaijan. the reference tag says that the country is on the Caspian Sea. It's not clear to me what kind of citation is needed here. Catsintheattic (talk) 07:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm gonna go ahead and remove it, the reference tag is good enough. - Joedetode (talk) 12:05, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Azerbaijan is not landlocked.[edit]

Hi Azerbaijan is bordered by the Caspian Sea.It's not land locked.Please remove it from the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anju 20023291 (talkcontribs) 17:17, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

The Caspian Sea is not connected to the ocean. CMD (talk) 23:33, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

No Wikipedia article for "landlocked parcel."[edit]

One wonders why not. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 14:34, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Butwhatdoiknow: Because nobody has created it yet. But you could be the one! See {{sofixit}}. No such user (talk) 15:41, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
By the way, we do have related articles on Right of way and Easement, but they do not deal specifically with the issue of landlocked parcels. A nice overview of the subject can be found e.g., although I wouldn't know offhand if it qualifies as a WP:RS. No such user (talk) 15:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Done. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 16:37, 20 January 2017 (UTC)