Talk:Lay cardinal

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Not sure how to reformat this page, but there are two main errors. Those in minor orders were laics not clerics (cleric state began at subdiaconate - now it is upon ordination to the deaconate.

Secondly Cardinal Mertel was not a lay cardinal he was a deacon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)