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Problems Citing Sources
I've added in a few web links to appropriate sources on this article. It is difficult when dealing with APA's to cite sources that can be looked up in a non-virtual content because they are periodicals that are not assigned ISSN, ISBN or UPC code numbers, or are cataloged by the Library of Congress as they are privately published and distributed and often of a totally non-commercial nature, just like "Zines".
They are a true sub-culture phenomena but there is limited study occuring on them on an academic level that can be used as a reference point. There are few Zine libraries, in Boston and Denver, but a google search shows no APA related libraries or Zine libraries including APAs in their current catalogs.
Joeteller 16:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)Joeteller
- The best holdings of science fictional amateur press association mailings are at the University of Iowa, which has Rusty Hevelin's collection and others. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Whoever chose the list of topics for "notability" should be grateful (or rather hopeful) that Mrs. Gold does not read Wikipedia on a regular basis (and if she does, I pray he never goes anywhere near Southern California). One wonders whether he believes anything belongs in Wikipedia at all. Michael Hopcroft 06:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I added Vikings to the list of professional publications. I would make it a link, but then it would end up linking to the page about the historical Vikings, and I don't feel like writing a page about the Vikings RPG module and a disambiguation page right now.--Barry Gold
The notability guidelines suggest "Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work" and "Search Engine Test -- Does a search for the subject produce a large number of distinguishable hits on Google (), Alexa (), Yahoo! ( or other well-known Internet search engine?" "Lee Gold" is unfortunately not the easiest name to search, but on the key words "Lee Gold" and "filk", I find almost 4000 hits, and on "Lee Gold" and "game" I find more than 13,000 hits. Searches show this author has won the Origins award and is a member of the Filk Hall of Fame, which meets the author test. I have edited many author pages, and given the level of notability that goes unquestioned for other authors, I would consider "GURPS Japan" itself to be noteworthy. I suppose any of these criteria might be arguable. However, an important factor is historical context; most of Ms. Gold's works predate the Web, but her somewhat significant role at an early stage in two different fields is relevant. I believe this subject meets the notability guideline. If I hear no objection on this page, I will remove the tag.Avt tor 15:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Very noteworthy indeed, IMO, in various fields relating to SF Fandom, Filk singing and Roleplaying (editor of the first purely roleplaying magazine in 1975; still in print as of 2007, see "Alarums & Excursions"). Lee's works do not just pre-date the web, but are also ongoing - just too busy with all of those (& RL) to maintain the online presence required by a Google Search, I suspect :) harami2000 00:24, 6 February 2007 (GMT)
I, of course, certainly agree (thus my attemps to add web links etc to the article. I don't know who put in the notability guideline complaint but it is certainly unwarranted. Please remove the tag so this piece may stay in wikipedia. joeteller
- We should have done this earlier. Thanks for taking care of this. Avt tor 17:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a copyedit macro at the top of this page. I have cleaned up a few things, but the nonspecifity of the tag makes it hard to know when one has done "enough" copy editing.