Talk:Legend of the Galactic Heroes
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- 1 Name of LoGH in German
- 2 so, this is the next page to have a makeover hmmm?
- 3 Seiyū vs. Voice actor
- 4 Infobox Conflict?
- 5 Fan sites
- 6 And that's a wrap
- 7 Stub-class article?
- 8 Title
- 9 Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters
- 10 Cut sections
- 11 National anthem
- 12 File:Galactic empire banner.PNG Nominated for speedy Deletion
- 13 External links question/suggestion
- 14 Psychohistory
- 15 New anime adaptation announced in early 2014
Name of LoGH in German
Concluding from different fan sites, I believe the most resonable German title should be Heldensagen vom Kosmosinsel, where:
- Helden = hero
- Sagen = legend (saga)
- vom = of the
- Kosmos = universe (cosmos)
- Insel = island
Alternative readings of flourish title shown on the TV series, Herdensagen, Derdensagen, von, Kosmosinset, do not make much sense when I try to look them up in online German-English Dictionaries. Can someone who really know German help to clarify this?
From a German user: This is because all these terms were created by germanophile Japanese who have only rudimentary knowledge of the language. "Herdensagen" = "Heldensagen", considering the L/R problem of East Asians, because both are alveolar sounds. "Derdensagen" cannot be explained by me and makes no sense, it does not exist. "Kosmosinset" is a typo for sure, maybe someone mistook a printed "l" for a "t", but "Inset" is not a German word. Regards, 42317 P.S.: What is a userpage good for if there's no "contact"/"email me" button? I'm a wikinoob, so I don't know such stuff. Make noobs' lives easier!
I am changing the Alternative titles section to clean up the redundancies in German and Japanese. If you want to change it to something else, please explain why you think you have more accurate information. I am interested to know. Thank you. ^_^
Felix Wan 22:42, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
First of all,I definitly agree with that rendering. The original VHS and Laserdisc releases spelled it Herdensagen rather than Heldensagen but I believe this is an obvious Japanese L/R issue. The more rescent DVD release says Heldensagen. Another I noticed is the article refers to the series as a TV show. It was not. The main series was an OVA (original video animation) released in 26 volumes (each normally containing 4 25 minute episodes,with volume 7 being only two,and volume 26 having a double length episode). The Gaiden series was released in basically the same way though offhand I don't know how many tapes/discs it was. I am pretty sure it was sold primarily as a mail order thing. My Conquest Is The Sea Of Stars and Overture To A New War I believe were both theatrical films,but I could be wrong, and Golden Wings was a TV movie. The first 'season' being volumes 1-7 were aired on Japanese TV after their initial VHS/LD release, but no other episodes were (probably because the violence content seems to rise from season 2 on). The entire main OVA series was however aired on TV in Taiwan I think (though it may have been Hong Kong), and the DVD release contains a Chinese dub (not sure offhand if it is Cantonese or Mandarin,I can go check). If I get a chance i'll update the article,but if someone else beats me to it more power to them =)
--MMAACKS 23:34, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
so, this is the next page to have a makeover hmmm?
Well, im stumped on this one, heard of it, but never watched it.
Dunno how I can help, well i guess i'll just proof read it or something.
I'll leave the more details stuff to the dedicated fans. ;)
Onizuka-gto 23:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- The problem with the article is that is bascially just lists. And what compunds it is that it has never been released in English speaking countries, so the ratio of material in Japanese to English is much higher then with most other shows. For starters it would be nice to see if we can translate anything from other languages versions into that article, then we need to add sections on plot, characters, themes and influences.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 23:38, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think what we need to do is split the article. Into many pieces. We need a characters article, a media article and probably a timeline article too. Getting the massive lists out of the article will make things a lot more manageable. I'll get started on one of these and hopefully somebody else will continue the trend. - Phorque (talk · contribs) 14:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Seiyū vs. Voice actor
For article section titles, I've replaced all use of "seiyū" with "voice actors" because the latter term is more widely known. I then when on and reworded the main voice actor section and used "voice actor" with a brief explanation of seiyū in the first instance and then use seiyū through the rest of the section.
- The generally accepted format for Japan-related articles is to use "voice actor" for non-Japanese voice actors, and "seiyū" for Japanese voice actors. This will likely cause someone to revert what you did. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 20:21, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't seen any such "accepted format" in the anime articles I've skimmed through when I was doing the genre categorizing. Both terms are used interchangeably. There is also nothing about which term to use in either WP:MOS-JA or WP:Anime. The closest I can come to is Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Think of the reader which advices to avoid using jargon, but when used, should be accompanied by a basic definition. The latter isn't something that is normally done in a heading. --TheFarix (Talk) 22:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is a general-purpose encyclopedia. As such, we should avoid jargon when it is not strictly necessary for precision. "Voice actor" is a perfectly well understood, accurate, and descriptive term, and is preferable to "seiyū". Nandesuka 22:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- Here is something else I found, Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Use other languages sparingly. --TheFarix (Talk) 22:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I was trying to add more info to the infobox when I noticed that some of the info in the infobox seemed to conflict with the info in the Anime section of the article. I was wondering if anyone knew which was correct? I really couldn't find much.
- Check the information against the ANN Encyclopedia. However, if you can get the information from the official site, that would be better. --TheFarix (Talk) 01:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- Which specific part of WP:EL you're refering to?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 23:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
And that's a wrap
I think we did quite well cleaning up this article while it was the Anime COTW. The information that was just cluttered up the article was moved to separate pages and we were successful in tighten up the rest. Good job everyone. --TheFarix (Talk) 17:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Considering the amount of information presented and the organization present, I think this article would at least qualify as a Start-class, or even possibly a stretch to B-class with a no references tag. It clearly covers the background of the series as originally a series of novels, then its adaptation into an anime, manga, and series of movies. It provides a background of the story as well as a list of all media and major production figures as well. It is by no means a complete article, but it does not appear to be a stub either. Some of the sections may be short but the article as a whole presents far more information with more organization than a simple stub.the_one092001 (talk) 22:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ignore this; the Stub-class tag refers to its film information, of which this article has essentially none. The Anime/Manga WikiProject has correctly classified this as a Start-class article.
- Agreed, overall, makes sense as a Start-class article, though is sorely lacking in anything on the LOGH film. That should probably be added. In addition, can anyone explain this tortured sentence (under the caption of the graphic showing the novel cover? "This book is considered valuable and famous because the character of the volume number came to attach since the second edition." This doesn't make sense. I'm sorry I can't help further other than to raise these two points. If you speak Japanese, perhaps you can help on at least the second. Holmwood (talk) 05:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters
A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 11:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Some time ago big chunks of this article were removed. I think that info should be restored. Thoughts? -- 19:57, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- National anthem of the Free Planets Alliance from episode 86: New Government in August. Takabeg (talk) 14:48, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
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I'm involved in a project designed to build a Memory Alpha-like fan wiki for LOGH called Gineipaedia. Recently i was asked to see if it'd be possible to get us linked from the LOGH article on Wikipedia, the same way MA and similar wikis are linked on their respective series articles.
Having looked at the Wikipedia guidelines on linking to external sites, it seems that the requirement for other wikis is that they have 'a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors'. I am not sure if our project qualifies for that or not; we are just about 2 years old now, and we have maybe a dozen regular contributors who have created almost 1100 articles — it's not much compared to MA but it's a niche subject after all. I do believe we are the most active and complete LOGH resource on the Internet though, even including Japanese ones.
In addition to that i am of course involved in the project, so it'd raise conflict-of-interest issues if i added a link myself.
So... i'm just going to drop this here, in the hopes that someone with a more objective view-point can determine whether this is appropriate. If it's not, that's fine of course :) Cheers! Ohkine (talk) 21:49, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Was reading Psychohistory_(fictional)#Asimovian_psychohistory_and_similar_concepts_in_other_fiction and it mentions that this concept appears in LOGH. I don't recall it coming up (at least not named 'psychohistory') in the OVA series, is it possible that this appeared in the novels but wasn't adapted?