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James Legge's translation of Chinese Classics uses at least two romanization systems: one can be found in his traslation of The Four Books (of Confucianism); the other in The Sacred Books of the East, edited by F. Max Müller. The first of these could properly be called Legge romanization; while the second should be called Legge romanization modified after the transliteration system of the Sacred Books of the East (or a shorter name). The system reproduced in Wikipedia is the last one. In the following chart you can find roughly the equivalents between Hanyu pinyin (HYPY), James Legge's transliteration (JL), and James Legge's transliteration modified after the system used in The Sacred Books of the East (JL-TSBE).

'''HYPY                                 JL                              JL-TSBE

Initials'''

b                                       p                               p
p                                       p’                              ph
m                                       m                               m
f                                       f                               f

d                                       t                               t
t                                       t’                              th
n                                       n                               n
l                                       l                               l

g                                       k                               k
k                                       k’                              kh
h                                       h                               h

j                                       ch, ts                          k, 3
q                                       ch’                             kh
x                                       hs, h                           hs, h

zh                                      ch                              k
ch                                      ch’                             kh
sh                                      sh                              sh
r                                       z                               z

z                                       tsz                             3ze
c                                       ts’                             3h
s                                       s, sz                           s, sz


'''Finals'''

-a                                      -â                              -â
-o                                      -o                              -o
-e                                      -o                              -o
-i                                      -ih, -e                         -ih
-ai                                     -âi                             -âi
-ei                                     -ei                             -ei
-ao                                     -âo                             -âo
-ou                                     -âu                             -âu
-an                                     -an                             -ân, -gan
-en                                     -ăn                             -ăn
-ang                                    -ang                            -ang
-eng                                    -ăng                            -ăng
-i                                      yî, -î                          yî, -î
-ia                                     -iâ                             -iâ
-ie                                     ye, -ieh                        -ieh
-iao                                    -iâo                            -iâo
-iou                                    yû, -iû                         yû, -iû
-ian                                    yen, -ien                       yen, -ien
-in                                     -in                             -in
-iang                                   -iang                           -iang
-ing                                    -ing                            -ing
-u                                      wû, -û                          wû, -û, 
ua                                      wa                              wa
-ue                                     -o
-uo                                     -o, -oh                         wo, -o
-uai                                    wâi                             wâi
-uei                                    -ûi                             wei, -ui
-uan                                    wan                             wân
-un                                     -un                             wăn, -un
-uang                                   wang                            wang
-ong                                    -ung                            -ung
-ü                                      yü, -ü                          -ü
-üe                                     -üeh                            -üeh
-üan                                    yüan, -üan                      yüan, -üan
-ün                                     -ün                             -ün
-iong                                   yung, -iung,                    yung, -ung

Fernán Alayza 03:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

correspondence to pinyin?[edit]

There should be a table of equivalence for pinyin. – Kaihsu (talk) 19:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Two things in the way: 1) no definitive proof that this system was based on Mandarin. 2) not enough sample to reconstruct it. I tried reconstructing the consonants, here is the result. (I am using the fraktur Z in unicode instead of the substitute characters.)
Pinyin b p m f d t n l g k h j q x zh ch sh r z c s w y
Legge p ph m f t th l k kh h 𝔷 kh hs k sz z 𝔷h s w y
th k kh k sh
k

--Voidvector (talk) 22:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)