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Sea of Japan - maybe we should mention East Sea?[edit]

Every now and then someone tries to add East Sea somewhere here. Maybe we could add a footnote to the Sea of Japan first use in lead, one that would mention an alternate name exists? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, apparently we actually have a naming guideline, based on some ancient "vote" (from 2005, about as ancient as that on Gdanzigk) that says we should use parenthetical "Sea of Japan (East Sea)" on first mention in an article of this scope (see WP:NC-SoJ). We used to follow this convention here until some time ago, when User:Kintetsubuffalo removed it with an edit summary of "MOS" [1]. I'm not sure what MOS rule he/she was thinking of; maybe there are conflicting rules states somewhere? In any case, I personally would call into question if that old vote is still valid and in line with actual naming practices. As far as I can see it is simply not true that there are "alternative names" – at least not in normal English, outside the wishful thinking of Korean nationalists. I might be proved wrong, but as far as I can see, except in the context of humoring the antics of people who wish to change a language that isn't even their own, the actual name in English seems to be quite overwhelmingly and exclusively "Sea of Japan", and using anything other than that in Wikipedia seems little more than a symbolic act of bowing down before the POV demands of a national faction. But of course I won't object to somebody restoring that parenthesis, if that indeed turns out to be current state of guidelines. Fut.Perf. 10:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I think this article could be helpful: http://korea.prkorea.com/wordpress/english/2012/03/13/how-to-name-the-sea/ -HUSTLEDOOSAN (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Dokdo Island location notation to East Sea[edit]

Please read the many notices at the top regarding this. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:46, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
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In Wikipedia, Dokdo is located in the Sea of Japan, not East Sea. Dokdo is the territory of the Republic of Korea and there is historical evidence about it.In the history of the Republic of Korea, in the year 512, when King Ji-hyeon was in his custody, the General of the Shilla dynasty wanted to make the Umbrella (now Dokdo and Ulleungdo) into Shilla territory, and the Isabi cut down trees to make lions, The people of the Uri Party surrendered, scaring the people in the area, and from then on, the Umbrella (Dokdo, Ulleungdo) became the territory of the Republic of Korea. But today Japan is making a ridiculous claim. For example, it is claimed that Japan used Dokdo as a place to fish near Ulleungdo since the 1600s, which claims Dokdo is Japanese territory. But as I said before, Dokdo is the territory of the Republic of Korea.The illegal fishing in the 1600s is blatantly referred to as Japanese land.Japan, which was decisively defeated in World War II, signed the San Francisco Strengthening Treaty with the United States, Britain and China in 1951. It is said that the Treaty gives back the land of the Republic of Korea that Japan has forcibly taken away.However, Japan is categorically stating that there is no such statement in this treaty as returning Dokdo.But then the logic is not right.Dokdo is also a land of the Republic of Korea, and the territory of the Republic of Korea, which Japan has forcibly taken away, includes Dokdo.However, since there is no statement that Dokdo will not be returned, Dokdo should be acknowledged as the territory of the Republic of Korea, which is the territory of the Republic of Korea, which Japan has forcibly taken away. Now Wikipedia is marking the location of Dokdo as 'Sea of Japan'.This distorts the history of the Republic of Korea.In this regard, Wikipedia asks you to mark the "Sea of Japan" as "East Sea". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.218.20.200 (talk) 07:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)


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new related article in need of cleanup: Dokdo Volunteer Garrison [edit]

If anyone's interested, this needs cleanup, from grammar to NPOV. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:21, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Kim Sung-do death date[edit]

The current article states Kim Sung-do's death as being in October 2019 instead of October 2018. Due to the protected nature of the page, I'm unable to edit it, so mention it here. Kobukson (talk) 09:02, 15 February 2019 (UTC)