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In his work "Pour Out a Little Liquor", Tupac asks that, when we drink, we pour out some liquor for his dead homies.

Is this gesture actually a form of libation, or is the similarity coincidental?

-- 22:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty unconvinced - I was just about to delete that section, but giving the benefit of the doubt, I'll leave it be. Does anyone have a source? It seems like vandalism to me.

DannyK 14:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it is either vandalism or a statement that is particular need of a citation. This practice is clearly "a ritual pouring of a drink as an offering". Where is the disagreement? ike9898 17:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
"Pouring a drink for fallen homies" doesn't seem analgous to the ancient practice of making an offering to a god. At the very most, it would be analgous to the Chinese custom of "bai-san" where alcohol, food and "burnt offerings" are made at an ancestors grave. I see that the Chinese custom (which is ancient) is not listed under "libation", yet "pouring one for the homies" is? It stretches the credulity of this entry, if you ask me.
I don't think that all libations are an offering to a god. From the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica, A libation is "a drink offering, the pouring out of a small quantity of wine, milk or other liquid as a ceremonial act. Such an act was performed in honour of the dead (Gr. xoai, Lat. profusiones), in making of treaties (Gr. vrovbj, cirEvbety=libare,, whence virovbai, treaty), and particularly in honour of the gods (Gr. Xoe(3r7, Lat. libatio, libamentum, libamen)" From Encarta, "the pouring out of a liquid, e.g. wine or oil, as a sacrifice to a god or in honor of a dead person". ike9898 23:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
It is a continuation of the practice, attested in Africa as well as early Europe, into contemporary culture, eg. people are still doing it, today, even within popular culture. That says a great deal about the pervasiveness and persistence of this custom. The mention is wholly germane. I'd keep it in. (talk) 19:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


The Thirsty Dead?[edit]

"Ancient Greek texts often mention libations. ... This act also known as Laudator Temporis Acti = the thirsty dead."

It should be obvious to anyone with even the tiniest smattering of classical languages (which is all I would claim) that Laudator Temporis Acti does not mean "the thirsty dead" in Latin, still less in Greek. Nor is it the name, in either language, for the act of pouring a libation. Whoever wrote that seems to have visited and mistaken the title of the day's essay for a translation of the title of the blog as a whole. I'm removing the erroneous sentence, and cleaning up the grammar of the previous one, which asserts that shades in Hades are composed of barley, wine, honey and water.

Although Iam rather new to the idea of libation the form in which seem to be referenced in tupac's verse rflects what the foundation of libation is


Who or what is Urany? Google does not show anything that makes sense as an answer in response to any of the following search terms:

Urany god Urany

Furthermore, the Wiki entry is, as yet, empty.

Is this a misspelling of Uranus?

Africa: Too General?[edit]

The article makes reference to traditions in 'African culture'. Surely this is far too general---Africa is a large continent, with many distinct cultures. This seems comparable to describing what is customary in 'European culture'. Could someone qualify this portion by naming a particular African culture? In the meantime, I will change it to 'some African cultures'. MJM74 (talk) 18:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Passover tipping for the plagues?[edit]

I was wondering if the practice, during the Passover Seder, of pouring out a drop of wine for each of the Ten Plagues, qualifies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davecampbell (talkcontribs) 03:09, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Modern use[edit]

Actually, wine is used in some of those "Russian neighbor countries". On the other hand, the spilling of beer is common in many youth cultures, not just hip-hop but punk and metal as well. Please modify. (talk) 18:22, 2 September 2015 (UTC)