Talk:List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens
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I know nothing about Dr Who, so I'll not edit this myself but
- Unknown which planet these fearsome creatures come from, their cloaks draped over their necks to give an impression that they had a head, but no. Their skin has been tied into a tight not where the head has been cut away. Remember, anyone could turn into one of these if you are not careful.
WP:SIZE: "Articles of about 200kB (~30 pages) are not uncommon for topics that require depth and detail, but it's typical that articles of such size get split into two or more sub-articles. ... These rules of thumb only apply to readable prose (found by counting the words, perhaps with the help of Shubinator's DYK tool or Prosesize) and not to wiki markup size (as found on history lists or other means). ... They also apply less strongly to list articles, especially if splitting them would require breaking up a sortable table." 220.127.116.11 (talk) 10:49, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
The Skarasen was indirectly mentioned in the revived series (9th-11th) in School Reunion. Sarah Jane cites "the Loch Ness Monster" to Rose & that was the Skarasen. I'm not sure if you count such indirect mentions, so I'm notifying you, rather than editing the list myself. --18.104.22.168 (talk) 09:53, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Isn't Stingray doubled?
Seems "Stingray" and "Flying Stingray" are the same, yet listed twice. I've only watched seasons 9 and 10, so please check me. I wouldn't want to introduce a mistake. Also, feel free to remove this entry after checking, whether I'm right or wrong. Rmikke (talk) 19:39, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
- One was in Army of Ghosts, and the other was in Planet of the Dead. They were separate beings, but now "Stingray" (from the latter episode,) has been retitled "The Swarm" to allay confusion. G S Palmer (talk) 16:38, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Linking back to the term?
I clicked on some of these terms, which appear to have active links, and the links bring one back to the term. It's crazy. Why have a link that opens a window and brings one back to the term that one clicked on to? It's useless. Unless a link is taking the reader to a different Wikipedia article or a different section of the same article, they should be removed.22.214.171.124 (talk) 01:09, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
If I remember right there used to be descriptions of each fictional life form on this page now there's just this chart. The problem is many of the fictional life forms don't have their own articles and redirect here. There should of been a better solution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jph (talk • contribs)
- The information hasn't been lost, it's just been moved to subpages (which are linked from here). The redirects just need to be retargetted to the correct destination. --SnorlaxMonster 16:02, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Table on this page
Hi, could I possibly raise a talk discussion for this page? Namely, the table of appearances. Frankly it's quite an eyesore. The vast, vast majority of it is simply large red 'no's, which seems to dominate the bulk of the entire page. It's not at all aesthetically pleasing, and the information contained therein could surely be put across in a more succinct and accessible method. I'd be happy to make some changes myself, but I'd rather get some consensus first to see if anyone would object to this first. Please let me know. Justin.Parallax (talk) 18:19, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
- I think it generally works to convey the necessary information, namely, where they have appeared. G S Palmer (talk) 19:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Change Links to Redirects
I would like to propose an edit: Instead of having the creature's names be linked to their first appearance, wouldn't it make more sense to have them redirect to their entry in the list proper? Perhaps the "Yes"s in the table could then be formatted to link to their first appearance. If we can reach a consensus I would be happy to start on the task myself. G S Palmer (talk) 16:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Creatures From Other Media
A small number of the creatures on this list have appeared exclusively in other media such as comics or print. While these may be Doctor Who aliens, they don't really belong on this list. Perhaps a separate page could be created for them, though I doubt it would be useful. These entries specifically are likely unnecessary: Aquarbi, Arcanus Servitoris, Bruydac, Caxtarids, Chimera, Communication field, The Dark, Droon, GENIE, Lamprey, The Light, Melkene, Naglon, Olympian, Parasitic alien tapeworms, Pwccm, The Sanctified, Selachian, Serfian, The Shroud, "The First Senior", Skith, Veritas, Viyrans, Vondrax, Vortisaur, Water hag, Waterhive and Yend. After all, their is no way that all the creatures from spin-off media could be included in this list. If we can get a consensus on this these entries should be removed. G S Palmer (talk) 15:19, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Update: if there are no replies to this suggestion by 10 March 2014 I am going to be WP:BOLD and make the changes myself. I will provide links to each edit here so that anyone who disputes the changes can easily reverse them. G S Palmer (talk) 01:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- I have now removed the entries on creatures which have appeared solely in spin-off media.
- Removed Aquarbi, Arcanus Servitoris, Bruydac, Caxtarids, Chimera, Communication field, The Dark, Droon, and GENIE with this edit and Eutermesan with this edit.
- Removed Lamprey, The Light, Melkene, Naglon, Obelat, Olympian, Parasitic alien tapeworms, and Pwccm with this edit.
- Removed The Sanctified, Selachian, Serfian, The Shroud, "The First Senior", Skith, Veritas, Viyrans, Vondrax, Vortisaur, Water hag, Waterhive, and Yend with this edit.
- G S Palmer (talk) 00:44, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
- I have now removed the entries on creatures which have appeared solely in spin-off media.
- Slitheen family should be added. <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=slitheen&oq=slitheen&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2312j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8">Source</a href> 126.96.36.199 (talk) 20:25, 9 June 2014 (UTC) Shirley F. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:19, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
There's List of Doctor Who planets, List of Doctor Who henchmen, List of Doctor Who villains, List of Doctor Who robots...this article should just be List of Doctor Who creatures and aliens. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 13:09, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- I was just providing a link to an edit summary where I made an opposing argument. G S Palmer (talk) 13:49, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Table of appearances: unencyclopaedic?
The big Table of Appearances that makes up most of this article does not appear to me to meet Wikipedia's basic criteria: it falls foul of WP:OR, WP:V and WP:INUNIVERSE. That is, it is original research, with no citations given, and written in an in-universe tone.
I suggest one of two options:
1) Delete it (or transwiki it to the TARDIS wikia); or
2) Trim it down to creatures and aliens that had some lasting impact (as a start, cut anything that only appeared in one story).
- There are zero references in the table. If allowed to list "every" creature in DW, there's no way any editor could ever verify it. If left to a core dozen creatures, it's pointless. What possible purpose does such a table serve anyway but to appease hardcore fankwankery? I think it should go. By the way, the article proper is now encouraging people to create links to it for single-appearance species like Argolins even though they have no article of their own: don't link something to a list entry if there's nothing there except the fact the creature appears in the episode article you're linking from. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 19:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm assuming the article was split into the subsection articles in order to accommodate the ghastly table. Can those be restored? The various species links around DW articles are now leading to this orphaned page. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 02:09, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think it was the other way round. The article got too long, so was split. This article then looked empty and the table appeared...? Bondegezou (talk) 08:07, 20 February 2018 (UTC)