Talk:List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League top scorers

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject Football (Rated List-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Association football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
 List  This article has been rated as List-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Europe (Rated List-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Europe, an effort to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to European topics of a cross-border nature on Wikipedia.
 List  This article has been rated as List-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 

Gerrard[edit]

I've noticed Gerrard's page accurately states he has scored 38 "continental" goals, but he is not listed, so were TEN of these goals in the UEFA cup? I'm not convinced, I think Gerrard has at least 28 in the Champions League. Cannot find any stats, however.--Tomsega (talk) 12:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Gerrard scored the bulk of his goals in the preliminary rounds which do not and should not count. Rr011 (talk) 12:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Giggs[edit]

Not mentioned even though has scored 29 Champions League goals — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.146.32.161 (talk) 23:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Giggs is a glaring omission, he's the record British scorer. Rr011 (talk) 12:31, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Jari Litmanen is missing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.158.62 (talk) 10:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Di Stefano - Altafini[edit]

In both cases, other nationality is involved.

Both in fact played for Argentina and Brazil National Teams before get their Spanish/Italian nationality.

See that I only has changed the All Time List, Di Stefano played since 1953 in Real Madrid. --Lucio Garcia 21:18, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Claudio Pizarro[edit]

Not mentioned 44 goals of Claudio Pizarro. His scored 29 goals in 35 matches for Werder Bremen, 15 goals in 51 matches for Bayern München and 2 matches (no goals) for Chelsea. He played 1 match in the European Super Cup for Bayern München http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/messi-sudamericano-con-mas-goles-historia-las-competiciones-europeas-1417684

--Esmaktub (talk) 04:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Altafini[edit]

Jose Altafini's wikipedia article states he kicked 35 goals in 55 games in 'all European competitions', including at least 14 goals in the European Cup, yet is not in the table of all time goal scorers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 (talk) 07:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Indeed he scored at least 18 in Champions alone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.57.57.223 (talk) 04:07, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Winners by seasons – 1956–57[edit]

Dennis Viollet scored only 4 goals in the tournament phase and 5 goals in the qualifying phase. Top scorer was Alfredo Di Stéfano.
See: 1956/57 European Champions Clubs' Cup – Statistics – Tournament phase – Goals scored and 1956/57 European Champions Clubs' Cup – Statistics – Qualifying phase – Goals scored.
--Simy69 (talk) 05:56, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Ronaldo[edit]

I've noticed thtat ronaldo (luis nazario de lima) is missing. His page on wikipedia mentions 47 european goals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.64.105.74 (talk) 07:39, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Van Nistelrooy[edit]

I wonder why Ruud van Nistelrooy is missing on the list. He scored 56 Champions League goals which easily places him among the top 5. 91.22.80.170 (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Eusebio[edit]

Eusebio's wikipedia page states he kicked 57 goals in 64 games, which is different to what is stated on this page which states 46 goals in 65 games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 (talk) 13:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Rooney?[edit]

Wayne rooney is missing, also there is no number 23!?!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.234.108 (talk) 03:38, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

A note about Matchday Updating[edit]

As per the request for semi-protection, I have been asked to write the instructions(?) here about editing on Champions League matchdays.

  • Do not edit until the end of Matchdays. Mistakes are continually made. Double edits are continually made. Some players are continually not updated. Ratios are continually not updated. Update EVERYTHING. But only at the end of a matchday, which is always a Wednesday.
  • Edit the update date at the end of each matchday so other users know the required edits have already been made.
  • Goals scored in the qualification rounds do not count towards this list. If a player has scored goals in qualification, write a note similar to those already in place so confusion is avoided as much as can possibly be. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 16:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2014[edit]

Lionel Messi is now tied for Ronaldo at 68 goals as of 09/30/2014. Helixzor32 (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

See this, and also the instructions in the editing area of the article, as to why this edit hasn't yet been made. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 18:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


Luiz Adriano[edit]

Adriano is in number 46 and number 49 positions in the table — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.226.135.37 (talk) 10:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2014[edit]


ronaldo has scored 71 goals not 70 , according to the UEFA official website,that makes ronaldo comes first before messi and raul .


the source:

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2015/statistics/all-time/ http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/EuroExperience/competitions/Publications/02/14/56/70/2145670_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Bekhiti.aek (talk) 18:01, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done This list does not include qualifying rounds and Ronaldo scored one goal for Manchester United in the qualifying for 2005-06 CL. This means he has 70 (main tournament) + 1 (qualifying) = 71. Some sources as the one you provided incorrectly includes qualifying also but many dont, and we dont either. QED237 (talk) 23:27, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Agüero[edit]

Sergio Agüero already has 19 goals in the UEFA Champions League. He should be on the list tied with Van Basten.200.123.176.121 (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Van Basten's ratio is better than Aguero's, but don't worry, the list is going to be edited shortly to be far more detailed. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 23:12, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

All-time top scorers - active players[edit]

Why does bold in this list denote still active in the current seasons champions league when its an all time top scorers list? This doesn't make much sense to me. Bold to denote a still active player (as in still plays football generally) would make more sense.

Why would that make sens if the player doesn't have the chance to increase the amount of goals? Trezeget for example is still active, i.e. he is still playing professional football in some part of the world but it's very unlikely that he'll ever return to play the Champions League again. If that happens we can bold his name in the table again.
It looks like someone agreed with me as it no longer says active in "this season" it just says currently playing in Europe now. Active in the current 2014-15 Champ League made no sense and went against other all time lists. It makes sense now. Thanks.

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2016[edit]

José Águas only got top scorer in the 1960-61 campaign (see: individual honours in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_%C3%81guas). Thus Portugal's number becomes 10 instead of 11 and Jose Águas removed from the list by player of being top scorer (more than once).

Also In the List "By country", Alfredo di Stefano should be counted Spanish (as he switched his nationality to Spanish. You can see this when you do Control + F "Di Stéfano acquired Spanish citizenship in 1956" in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Di_St%C3%A9fano ) and two of Hungary's years 1961–62, 1963–64 should be moved to Spain, as Ferenc Puskas switched his nationality to Spanish as well in 1962, see: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/nov/17/newsstory.sport6 ). This makes Hungary 3, Argentina 5, Spain 9 and Portugal 10 Tjaafari (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, it's been corrected, along with other errors. Di Stefano and Puskas remained Argentine/Hungarian nationals all their lives, so I don't see the point in assigning them different citizenships in the table. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 11:39, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
If not listing multiple nationality flags, the standard is to use the nationality they played most for. Puskas would make sense with that case but Di Stefano would be listed for Spain. RMB1987 00:19, 22 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.82.188.161 (talk)

Luis Suarez[edit]

Doesn't Suarez have 22 UCL goals? 17 with Barcelona and 5 with Ajax? Exactly he does. See of the UEFA page as well, make this correction instantly please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.49.203.184 (talk) 09:21, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

WHAY?[edit]

https://www.statbunker.com/alltimestats/AllTimeLeadingScorers?comp_code=UCL IN THIS SITE is thomas muller 38 inzaghi 45 kaka 29 del piero 41 giggs 27 marco simone 20 this site is a valid please search and see, if is right, please update.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.122.160.150 (talkcontribs)

Reducing the all-time ranking[edit]

The all-time list currently cuts off at 20 goals. More than half of the 50 players listed have scored between 20 and 29 goals. The encyclopedic value of including these players seems negligible to me. Does anyone object to setting the cut-off at 30 goals? Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 08:01, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

I oppose. The article is supposed to be list of top scorers, and cutting to 30 goals will only leave 20 players. Also from what I understand, the cut-off is not 20 goals, we always display top 50 players. Qed237 (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
For example look at this from a few years ago, where player no 50 had 19 goals. Qed237 (talk) 10:48, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Replace 30 goals with 30 players then, same difference. For example La Liga cuts off at 20 players, the Prem at 25 (100 goals), and Serie A at 30. Why 50? There really is little encyclopedic relevance when over half of them have scored 20–29 goals and the other half 30–90. I think often with these kinds of statistical articles we seem to lose sight of what the actual purpose of the project is. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 11:52, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Cuts off at 15 goals,display more players!!!!! Who decides to show the top 50?WHy not top 100? It is subjective assumption!!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kk2010123 (talkcontribs) 23:50, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Robben & Cavani[edit]

As of October 19, 2016, Aryen Robben scored 27th goal, surpassed Mario Gomes and shares 28th place with Rivaldo. Edinson Cavani scored 21 goals and entered the list.[1] I am no smart enough to adjust myself, as my attempts cause more destruction than improvement.--Maxaxax (talk) 03:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

How many goal Luis Alberto Suarez had in the UEFA Champions League?[edit]

22 http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=106375/profile/ 72.21.196.70 (talk) 19:40, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Where is Luis Alberto Suarez in the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.72.220.84 (talk) 03:24, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Suarez has scored 18 goals in the competition proper. Goals scored in the qualification stage are not counted. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 06:57, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

It is necessary to add important players who did not scored 20 goals yet in the list on the article!!![edit]

It is not necessary to add every player in the list,But I think it is necessary to add important players like Ronaldo,Michael Owen,Suarez who did not Scored 20 goals yet in the list,more people want to know it!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.72.220.82 (talkcontribs)

It is a list of the top scorers, and that is what it should be. We can not list all scorers and we can not just choose those that we think should be there as it is WP:POV. We display neutral fact, and not opinions. Qed237 (talk) 11:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
I totally agree with you. He don't get to decide which players are 'important'. And those players he added, are still active and going strong. They will eventually make their way on the list anyways. Might as well wait until they scored enough to be on it. Csknowitall (talk) 11:47, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
As you say :It is a list of the top scorers,but in fact it is a list of the top scorers who scored 20 goals!!! The player like Parallel striker Luiz Adriano who get more goals in the match with BATE Borisov in the list !!!But we can not see like Ronaldo,Michael Owen,Suarez,Ronaldinho,the list like a joke!!!So I think must add then!!! And I think it is need to Invite administrator to decide!!!We display neutral fact is right, but i think we shoud show the inportant fact which is not displayed fot limited space,we didn't change the fact,only show it!!!My English is poor,I hope you can understand my mean!!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.72.220.82 (talkcontribs)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2017[edit]

Durgeshk81 (talk) 07:46, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Kosack (talk) 07:54, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Gento & Jose Augusto[edit]

Wikipedia article on Francisco Gento gives 30 goals. Worldfootball.net also 30.

Jose Augusto scored 24 goals in 56 Champions Cup games according to http://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/jose-augusto/2/