Talk:List of National Football League retired numbers

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Seahawks #12[edit]

The Seattle Seahawks have retired the number 12 as an honor to their fans, often called the 12th Man. That should be listed here, even without a specific player being associated with that number. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Seahawks #12 was at one time in this list; I don't know when it was removed or why. But if it is restored to this list, there will have to be a couple of changes:
(1) The lead sentence (Teams in the National Football League retire jersey numbers of players who ...) will need to be changed
(2) the article name will need to be changed.
Arguably, Seahawks #12 was not 'retired' in the sense that word is commonly understood. Overall, I don't think that it is such a good idea to include Seahawks #12 in the list. However, it may be appropriate to include a sentence about it at some point in the article, maybe in the last paragraph in the lead. YBG (talk) 03:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

References[edit] is now referenced; info not found there is marked {{Citation needed|date=October 2009}}, so I've removed the {{Unreferenced|date=September 2008}} tag. YBG (talk) 08:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

The references marked <ref name=NFL> were originally from a page on the website which has now disappeared. At some point, the URL was changed to point to, which I'm not sure is considered reliable. In any event, I am rectifying differences between that list and the WP page as follows:
  • Add reference for Rams 28(Faulk)
  • Delete ref, add[citation needed]: Saints 51(Mills) & 57(Jackson), Seahawks 71(Jones), Steelers 75(Greene), Eagles 5(McNabb), Bears 89(Ditka), Lions 20(Sanders)
YBG (talk) 03:01, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Also added 4 Atlanta numbers (57 VanNote, 10 Bartowski, 60 Nobis, 31 Andrews) which are listed in the reference despite the fact that the lead says that the Falcons traditionally do not retire jersey numbers. YBG (talk) 03:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Years or seasons[edit]

Is the new column the years played or the seasons played? That is, 1981-1985 could mean 4 seasons ending with the superbowl in 1985 or 5 seasons with or without post-season appearance in 1986. I suspect it means the latter, in which case it would be better to change to column title. But to completely disambiguate the matter, it might be good to add the total number of seasons, either in the same column "5 (1981-85)" or in separate columns "Seasons|Years played with team" or "Seasons played with team|Total". A combined column would require care (e.g., using {{nts}}) to make sorting work correctly. Separate columns would enable sorting either by total years played or by the first year played. YBG (talk) 15:29, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

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Can somebody create the nomination page for me? Reason: I recently added citations and added pictures, and now think that it is worthy of being a featured list. -- (talk) 23:09, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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the intro states they don't retire numbers yet they are in the list with numbers retired — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)