Talk:List of Sega Genesis games

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Beethoven[edit]

As far as I am aware there was no game released for the Mega Drive/Genesis called Beethoven. There was a game called "Beethoven's 2nd" but I think that was released on another platform.

List Missing Star Control 2[edit]

I Don't have the Star Control 2 cart with me at the moment for the pertinent information, but it exits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.11.168 (talk) 03:56, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Where does it exit from? 24.179.56.122 (talk) 21:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

947 Sega Genesis Games[edit]

Golden age gaming site has 947 listed Sega genesis games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnthonyTheGamer (talkcontribs) 16:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

It would of helped if you provided the website url to compare to. Govvy (talk) 13:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Bible Adventures[edit]

Why is this game included in the list when it's an unlicensed game? All games from Wisdom Tree are unlicensed. There is no Sega logo or "seal of quality" on it's cartridge or packaging. This game and other unlicensed games that may be on the list need to be removed.JeremeK (talk) 00:11, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

What makes the difference? This is the list of games made for the Sega Genesis, and if it can be cited reliably, I don't see why it shouldn't be included. The same goes for Ishido: The Way of Stones, Star Control, Turrican, etc., all titles Accolade developed before being licensed, not to mention the Taiwanese games listed, of which quite a few of them actually have articles. Red Phoenix build the future...remember the past... 00:31, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Unlicensed games are not officially for Sega, and because Sega did not put their seal of quality on it, the games cannot be promised to meet Sega standards. Any cartridge which Sega did not approve was made by third-party companies to override the system's security which will mess up your console. This is what happened to Nintendo and the reason many people had to "blow" on the game and console's contacts.JeremeK (talk) 22:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

If the unlicensed games are going to be included on the list, they need to be labeled as such. JeremeK (talk) 22:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

There's nothing on the list that tells the viewer that an unlicensed game is unlicensed. I think it needs to be labeled that way.JeremeK (talk) 15:40, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

  • I wouldn't be against that as long as it's sourced. Maybe something as simple as an asterisk next to the title, since there's only about 15-20 or so on here out of 900. The trick is identifying all of them: Action 52, for instance, is a part of the Allgame list but I happen to know it's unlicensed, and there's nothing in the sources used to indicate that. Any title released in Taiwan exclusively is unlicensed, along with Oh Mummy, the Wisdom Tree titles, Pier Solar and the Great Architects, and five games from Accolade before licensing: Ishido: The Way of Stones, Mike Ditka Power Football, Star Control, Hardball!, and Turrican. I'm of the opinion that "the games cannot be promised to meet Sega standards" isn't an issue because this isn't an official Sega list, and also because quite a few of the unlicensed titles have notability - obviously the Accolade ones have some tied into Sega v. Accolade, and the Sega Genesis article has a section with coverage on recent Genesis new releases which are unlicensed: Beggar Prince, Star Odyssey, Legend of Wukong, and Pier Solar and the Great Architects, of note of which Beggar Prince and Legend of Wukong were originally Taiwanese pirate games. It's sort of interesting, I think, how the Genesis' unlicensed titles seem to have more of a presence in reliable source coverage than most other consoles I've seen. Red Phoenix let's talk... 18:53, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Unreleased games?[edit]

Do we list unreleased games in here, or not?--SexyKick 13:32, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

  • If it's unreleased, I wouldn't because then it wasn't a game for the system. I've done cancelled titles before in List of Sega 32X games as its own separate, well-cited list, but that's a bit of a rare circumstance because those titles were killed due to the failure of the add-on. Here, it's not really the same given we're talking about games that were unreleased for any variety of reasons, which is normal in the industry. Red Phoenix let's talk... 14:09, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

"Genre" tag[edit]

I think games could be listed by genre also. 200.198.216.114 (talk) 19:21, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Only if you can reliably source all 900+ of them. It would have to be indisputable from a source considered reliable from this project. Red Phoenix let's talk... 19:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
I don't think this would be a good idea. Alot of them can be subjective, and with that, comes unneeded edit battles and such. How would you classify a game such as Medal City? Gambling? Card? Simulation? etc. ~ Dissident93 00:57, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
And Mystic Defender. Marketed as an RPG...--SexyKick 10:53, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Console Output - NTSC vs PAL in Brazil[edit]

An edit was recently made to the Region Code Guide of this article. The original "PAL release exclusively in Brazil" has been changed and currently reads:

NTSC-U release exclusively in Brazil(some systems may output PAL-M,but all games are NTSC-U)

I was going to fix the spacing errors when I realized the extensiveness the change suggests. Brazilian games and their output is beyond my knowledge, so I would like someone to weigh in on this topic. There is a section in the NTSC article which mentions both Brazilian NTSC and PAL-M, and the PAL-M article suggests that PAL-M is more or less interchangable with NTSC (in one direction, it is not suggested that NTSC is just as easily played on PAL-M, but I haven't thoroughly read the article).

I'm going to go ahead and fix the spacing issue, but this is not done as an approval of edit 617650221 until more detailed information can be supplied to substantiate the claim made.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 04:18, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

hi, I'm the one who edited it,I am a newbie to wikipedia editing and in fact I tried to add some missings brazilian games, but some one else deleted it. the mega drive system in brasil uses ntsc-u games, genesis cartridges and tectoy ones ,I still own my childhood mega drive 3 from tectoy(the inside board its based in a genesis 3 model). my system output ntsc I believe the early models output PAL-M.some old brazilian tvs just accepts PAL-M .PAL-M its basically NTSC 60hz with PAL color system,so makes sense that the early systems output PAL-M for bigger compatibility with the television sets. the hardware diferences would just be the rf modulator and the av video encoder. about the games I tried to add, should I ask here if they could be added? they are tectoy games lincensed by sega some examples are: Phantasy Star II ( translated to portuguese ) Phantasy Star III ( translated to portuguese ) Turma da Mônica na Terra dos Monstros Yu Yu Hakusho: Sunset Fighters( firt game translated directly from japanese to portuguese originaly called YuYu Hakusho Makyou Toitsusen) and some more sorry for being stupid in my first posts in the wiki. its hard to find reliable sources about brazilian games , the closest I found its some foruns and blogs in portuguese http://forum.outerspace.terra.com.br/index.php?threads/especial-tec-toy-parte-1-os-jogos-traduzidos-para-o-portugu%C3%AAs.1635/ http://comunidademegadrive.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/e-do-brasil-os-jogos-de-mega-drive-criados-no-pais/

Changes made to this list need to be backed by reliable sources. I found it equally challenging when putting this list together, but it's very important not to add unsourced or unreliable sourced material to this list, to avoid original research. It's also worth noting that the PAL column includes Brazilian releases; the separate column is for region-exclusive releases (i.e. Brazil only, Taiwan only, Korea only). Red Phoenix let's talk... 17:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

if the game have a translated version it does not count as a brasil only edition ?

if I add to the genesis/mega drive page ( or even this list ) a photo of the bottom of my mega drive saying in portuguese that it output ntsc,does it prove anything ? its hard really hard to find a reliable source of this stuff in the internet.

PAL games tend to be translated into multiple language in Europe, so this is not unusual. I'm pretty sure there's another country called Portugal that would also get Portuguese translations. What you'll need to find is a reliable, third party source, so the photo won't do. I know it's hard to find, but maybe a Brazilian media entity can help you with that, if any have something about it posted on their websites. That's about your best shot. Red Phoenix let's talk... 22:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

back to the topic, in the brazilian portuguese wiki it says: Fisicamente o videogame era idêntico ao "Genesis" americano, sendo compatível com os jogos NTSC para esse sistema. O sinal de saída de vídeo, porém, foi convertida para PAL-M, o padrão brasileiro misto entre PAL e NTSC. which means: Physically the game was identical to the "Genesis" American, is compatible with NTSC games for that system. The output video, however, was converted to PAL-M, the Brazilian mixed standard between PAL and NTSC. but there are no references linked to this part of the text Aoalvo (talk) 01:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


I've read a little more on the NTSC article in trying to find a reference of NTSC-U for Brazil, but it only mentions North America/U.S. for that NTSC format. NTSC-M for Brazil is vaguely touched on in the Broadcast television systems article; NTSC-N is also mentioned for Brazil, but specific dates for NTSC-N use in Brazil are not given ("used briefly" - when?) in regards to the gaming console being discussed. More research from a reliable reference is required; I would love to see something definitive added to the fore mentioned articles, in addition to the Genesis game list. Do not forget, however, that we are talking about when these games/systems were originally released; whatever the format is in current use (Digital television), it does not apply here. Red Phoenix is right, e.g. French being the official language of 29 countries, French translations of games wouldn't count unless the game was released exclusively for a specific country.

Oppose. The conclusion I draw from examining the relevant Wikipedia articles is that PAL-M is/was the standard format for Brazil, and as such, I recommend that the edit in good faith, 617650221, be reverted (for now), but if something more definitive is sourced, then it should be changed to reflect the relevant formats of the game system; the edit in question is too verbose for use in the chart. I suggest, however, that if a game during the Genesis system era is found to have been released in a format in Brazil that differs from the norm, that it should be mentioned in the column where the games are listed, e.g. BR (NTSC-U), or BR (PAL-M), but without changing the Region code guide at the top of the page.

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Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 14:03, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

the point is, should we mark the region tv system or the game type? brazil never used ntsc as tv standard, only PAL-M but the mega drives from here work only with ntsc-u game cartridges. the line insert really got too verbose,but as I am a total newbie to wikipedia i've tried to make something people will think about before deleting.(I discovered the talk page later on) the actual diferences between a us genesis board and a brazilian mega drive board are only in video encoder and rf modulator that some of the early brazilian system have. later systems was ntsc only because overtime the biggest part of the tvs had automatic format detection for easy check try downloading brazilian game roms and check it info in an emulator it will be ntsc-u (I know an emulator test does not work as a source) Brazil even received 32x and sega cd systems that was exacly like the us releases Aoalvo (talk) 21:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

You raise an interesting question, Aoalvo. This article is not about the television systems, but just the game platform (television systems have their own articles). To make sure I have understood you correctly, you say that the Mega Drive systems were NTSC-US during the time of the games' initial release in Brazil, and it's only the television sets that were PAL-M.
This brings into question whether Brazil should be separated into the Other release column, because the NA release column is currently described as including other NTSC regions, which by that definition would include Brazil even though it's South America. I personally would read the NA release column as being just for the Genesis, and the other columns are for the Mega Drive, whether they accept the same cartridges or not (just a marketing and copyright naming issue). The Other release column is pretty thin. I can't imagine a game system being sold for just a couple of games; Brazil must have a larger library of official releases.
Unfortunately, I can't make the changes you are suggesting without a reputable source because this discussion is well beyond my scope (which is why I opened the discussion). In addition, Red Phoenix put a lot of work into the article's current format, and I'm not prepared unleash a shakeup of the article without some sort of collaborative effort. While I'd recommend Mark Bussler who runs the Classic Game Room as a reputable video game journalist, I don't think they will have much knowledge of the Brazilian Mega Drive. I could be wrong, though, and thus will send CGM a message. Thank you, Aoalvo, for taking part in this discussion. If you have any further information to share, please continue to do so.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 08:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Message has been sent to Classic Game Room, asking for their assistance in this discussion as a well-established video game journalist.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 08:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

anyone still interested ? the only way to get real conclusions would be: take some brazil mega drive games a genesis a BR mega drive a EU mega drive and do the testing all brazil made hardware runs in 60hz, I don't know how they react with EU or JP region locked games but they do run all the genesis games fine none brazil exclusive game have region encoding.there are some made in brazil copies of comic zone and other games that are region locked and the game looks exacly like the US release. would be great if CGR make a page about it(based in testing) :PAoalvo (talk) 05:05, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

missing brazilian game[edit]

the game Turma da Mônica na Terra dos Monstros is missing and I wanna add it year 1994 developer:webstone / Sega / Tectoy published by Tectoy Reference http://www.sega-brasil.com.br/Tectoy/index.php?title=Turma_da_M%C3%B4nica_na_Terra_dos_Monstros ( in portuguese )

I would like to add the brazilian name of YuYu Hakusho: Makyo Toitsusen that is Yu Yu Hakusho Sunset Fighters

reference http://www.sega-brasil.com.br/Tectoy/index.php?title=Yu_Yu_Hakusho_Sunset_Fighters

I'sorry to have tried to add some master system games by mistake like Sapo Xulé vs Os Invasores do Brejo and translations of mega drive games (a translated games list would be interresting to have, maybe elsewhere) I would like to apologize for any annoyance I could have created around here,I was just trying to improve a good list Aoalvo (talk) 01:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Neither of those references are going to work because they're not reliable, unfortunately. Sega-Brasil is little more than a wiki added by fans with no reliable fact-checking, just as Wikipedia is. No one's upset with you, Aoalvo, so no worries there. The thing is that Wikipedia has to be very reliably sourced, and the definition of a "reliable source" isn't just something mentioned on a fan site on the internet. Most times, this'll mean it comes from an unbiased media entity that has a reputation for fact-checking, or from a notable individual, i.e. a well-established video game journalist. There are still a couple of things missing, most notably to me are some Taiwanese pirate games, but as it stands this list contains everything that could be found from reliable sources unless new ones come to light. I hate to say that, but I spent days scrounging the internet looking for them a few months ago. Red Phoenix let's talk... 14:15, 21 July 2014 (UTC)