Talk:List of Victoria Crosses by school

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Wimbledon College[edit]

Wimbledon College should be included here as having two VCs, namely Eugene Esmonde and Gerald Robert O'Sullivan , both mentioned on the Wimbledon College page.

I would edit the page, but I cannot work out how to do so.

Nosyard 00:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. They have now been added.Kwib 20:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Christ's College, Canterbury[edit]

Hey, I was going to add Charles Upham who attended Christ's College, Canterbury (New Zealand), but I was unsure of how many VC's to put down as he personally won two of them (VC and Bar). So I guess im asking, do I put Christ's College down for 2 or 1? Thanks! Loopla 13:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

In the case of Westminster School that has as one of its alumni another double recipient (Arthur Martin-Leake) it is the number of VCs, rather than the number of VC recipients. Therefore, for consistency Christ's College should have 2 for Charles Upham. Is he definitely the only VC recipient from that establishment?Kwib 23:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
As far as I know, he is the only one. I could be wrong, but the school tends to have great respect for old boys that have served, and Charles Upham is the only VC listed on their list of Prominent Old Boys. I did a quick google search and couldn't find anything, but will have a better look when I have time. Loopla 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but, as has been said, he was a double recipient.--THobern 22:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by THobern (talkcontribs)

Magnus Grammar School[edit]

Gonville Bromhead attended Magnus Grammar School, Newark, Notts. One of the school houses was named after him. [1] D1d4 (talk) 11:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I have added to the table. However, I have also noted that the total number for the school, which is currently listed as 1, is as yet unconfirmed.Kwib (talk) 15:29, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Shrewsbury School[edit]

Harold Ackroyd VC MC and Thomas Tannatt Pryce VC MC Bar both attended Shrewsbury School. Their names are inscribed on one board (of several) in the School chapel. I haven't checked the rest yet! Webbosoft (talk) 15:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I have added to the table. However, I have also noted that the total number for the school, which is currently listed as 2, is as yet unconfirmed.Kwib (talk) 15:29, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

George Mitchell School[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mitchell_School George Mitchell School in east end of London has 2 VC. Not sure how to add it to the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.168.45 (talk) 21:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I have added these now.Kwib (talk) 14:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Saint Joseph's Technical College Abbotsford in Victoria Australia[edit]

http://ww1cemeteries.com/othercemeteries/brighton_general_cem_australia.htm www.stjoestech.org.au The above two web links give example of one mistake in the Schools Victoria Cross list as they have left out a Student of Saint Joseph's Technical College Abbotsford in Victoria Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.109.65.21 (talk) 13:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I take it that Saint Joseph's Technical College Abbotsford was previously called the Christian Brothers' School, Abbotsford? If this is the case, then the list does contain a mistake, but rather an ommission. The Christian Brothers' School above is the one in Lewisham, NSW, not Abbotsford. Having read the links, then Maurice Buckley, VC, D.C.M is the person to be added. However, I am not sure this is the only recipient from the school. I will add for you, and add a line for that school. However, the school should be checked to see if others are applicable.Kwib (talk) 15:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The Portsmouth Grammar School[edit]

Hi, The Portsmouth Grammar School should be in this page as they have 3 VC winners (checked on the Wikipedia page relating to the school) 1 for the Boer War and 2 for the 1st World War. Could you update the page as I can't do so!! Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.123.108.131 (talk) 10:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I have added these, although a citation for the number being 3, external to wikipedia, would be appropriate. There may be more that are not listed on The Portsmouth Grammar School page.Kwib (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Bancrofts School[edit]

Has 2 VC. Not sure how to add it to the list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bancroft%27s_School#Notable_alumni http://www.bancroftians.net/cgi-bin/obacms3.pl?id=5026 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.193.1 (talk) 23:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I have added the school to the list along with the source for the total number and link to the school wikipedia page.Kwib (talk) 21:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Victoria College[edit]

This school is not, as listed, part of the United Kingdom, seeing as it is located in Jersey. This means it is part of the British Isles, but not the UK or GB. If this article could be edited to reflect this, it would be much appreciated by this Jerseyman

Taizan (talk) 02:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Apologies. This has been amended now.Kwib (talk) 10:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that Taizan (talk) 02:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Queen Elizabeth's School Barnet - 2 Victoria Cross Holders[edit]

Queen Elizabeth's is a state Grammar School, founded 1573. Two recipients of VC. Henry W Engleheart, 10th Royal Hussars, South African (Boer)War, Event 13th march 1900, Born, 14th Nov 1863 - Died, 9th August 1939, Datchet. National Archives Catalogue reference WO 98/8 Details of grave and picture at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=8547406 Wikipedia q.v. Capt.Allastair Malcolm Cluny McReady-Diarmid VC (21 March 1888- 1 December 1917),The Middlesex Regiment (Duke of Cambridge's Own) World War 1. Event 30 November/1 December 1917, Moeuvres Sector, France. National Archives, image ref. no. 50235 / 2546 Wikipedia q.v. NedÓg (talk) 00:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I have added this school. However, although there is no dispute that these two recipients were at the school, it should be noted that there is no source to confirm that the number of recipients for the school is 2. Thus the possibility that that there are more is not excluded. I have linked to the Queen Elizabeth's Grammar School, Barnet page.Kwib (talk) 00:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Location needs a footnote[edit]

Location needs a footnote to explain this is the current location of the school not the nationality of the alumni who won the awards, and that it is not the location of the school when the award was made (although schools do not often move far geographically, sometimes the state in which they reside can change). --PBS (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I think this is a valid point and I would agree with its inclusion.Kwib (talk) 16:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Home nations[edit]

It might be desirable to list the schools in the Home Nations by nation rather than by UK. --PBS (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Can you expand on why this would be desirable?Kwib (talk) 16:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Initial row ordering[edit]

When this was started, it made sense to list by number of awards (as all the schools listed had two or more [2] VC awarded to alumni and teachers), but as the list has developed we are approaching the point where single awards will be in the majority (a quick count using no 1 eyeballs makes it 24 1s and 24 2s), I think it is time to consider a new initial sort order. I would suggest by country and then by school alphabetically, because if someone want to view them by total all they have to do is click on the total column. --PBS (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Given the table is sortable, I would suggests this mitigates the need for a different initial sort order.Kwib (talk) 16:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The reason for ordering alphabetically would remove the bias originally highlighted in the AfD. -- PBS (talk) 02:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Bristol grammar school[edit]

Frederick William Lumsden was a VC and alumni, at least according to the wikipedia article and his portrait in the school, I would add BGS myself but I can't work out how. 94.169.116.26 (talk) 14:52, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I have added this school. However, although there is no dispute that this recipient was at the school, it should be noted that there is no source to confirm that the number of recipients for the school is 1. Thus the possibility that that there are more is not excluded. I have linked to the Bristol Grammar School page.Kwib (talk) 16:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

illiteracy rate in the BA[edit]

This statement ...the British Army during the Victorian Era had a literacy rate of up to 90%, so many of the Victorian cross winners in the 19th century who were not NCOs or officers may never have gone to school. does not make sense unless we are to believe that only 10% of the forces were poorly educated. The statement appears to be unsourced too. Silent Billy (talk) 00:08, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Stowe School[edit]

Stowe School could be included as having two VCs from WW2, namely John Thompson McKellar Anderson and Leonard Cheshire. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178nevis (talkcontribs) 16:22, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Cranbrook School, Kent[edit]

Has one in Wallace Duffield Wright, according to its page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranbrook_School,_Kent#Notable_alumni

Will try to find a source link for that, but the man and his VC certainly exist:

http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/stewart/brookwoo.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.127.79.8 (talk) 23:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


He now has his own page, so can probably be included on this list if someone has the skills to do it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Duffield_Wright — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.165.55 (talk) 11:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

St Edward's School, Oxford[edit]

St Edward's School, Oxford produced Guy Gibson, VC. But like others here, I don't have the skills to add him myself, nor do I know if there are any other medalists amongst the other Old St. Edwardians. Roregan (talk) 15:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

St John's College, South Africa[edit]

St John's College, Johannesburg, in South Africa should be included. Oswald Austin Reid was awarded the VC in the First World War. Apologies, but I have no idea of how to add this to the table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkolabhai (talkcontribs) 13:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Batley Grammar School[edit]

Horace Waller VC attended Batley Grammar School. I'm not sure how to add this.

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