Talk:List of YouTubers/Archive 1

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SXEPHIL should be in here! He's way more subscribers than most of these users. I tried to create DeFranco's profile about 2 months ago, but someone deleted it before I could even finish. I saved the page in case something happened to my computer and while I was collecting more information, the page was gone. All I'm saying is this guy deserves a profile. UncleBobby629 03:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Have you looked over WP:BIO? Ichormosquito (talk) 08:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow.. I thought I was the only one, who thought sXePhil should be added, and yes I agree he needs to be added, here is the NYT Reference for him, just in case someone needs a reference thing. --FallingDarkness (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Now where exactly is "sXePhil" name mentioned in the New York Time's article "Eight Teenagers Charged in Internet Beating Have Their Day on the Web"? We do actually check these links you know, so don't try to bullshit your way in with a fake reference. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Go to the page I linked, click "edit" then find in this page and in the "find" bar type Phillip then hit enter. It mentions Phillip Defranco's video about Dr. Phil and the Vicious Eight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FallingDarkness (talkcontribs) 17:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

He should totally be on here. He rocks. I love watching his videos, and he has enough subscribers to get get film sponsors in his videos.PokeHomsar (talk) 16:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

He was on the "Who's who on Youtube" segment of Attack of the show. Link here --> . I think this make him officially a Youtube celebrities. No discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girot (talkcontribs) 23:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

He is now on an HBO sponsored YouTube show/channel called "HookingUp". The show has been on-line since 01-Oct-2008. This show stars 'KevJumba' and 'LonelyGirl15'. This attempt might be termed "YouTube All-Stars". I agree that by omitting SxePhil/Phillip DeFranco that Wikipedia is making itself look out of touch. Here is the MSM reference: -- (talk) 17:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I've added him back. I really want to know who keeps deleting him. He's a top 10 YouTuber. He deserves to be on this list.PokeHomsar (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Makemebad35, Kylemonkey, and Boburnham

Why are these 3 not on here? They are youtube gold! Tons of subscribers, 5 stars all around, Bo even has his own album out now! And they put Fred on here? He doesn't even classify as a person compared to these 3! Right the injustice! Add these 3 now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by FOXGEAR (talkcontribs) 05:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


Somebody needs to put "Fred" on here. I think he is classified as a Youtube star now. Thanks. He also has a deal with some IM thing called Zipit. Hes in their commericals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

He isn't notable outside of YouTube. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 14:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Fred really sucks. I really have no clue how he got so many subscribers... Maybe because Zip It advertises him on YouTube videos. Yeah, that's it.PokeHomsar (talk) 03:38, 27 June 2008 (UTC)(Negitive comments not relating to this article do not belong here.--Sonicobbsessed (talk) 03:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC))

I have added him, and an article has been created about him also. He is under Lucas Cruikshank. Arigont (talk) 06:38, 04 July 2008 (UTC) You added Fred!? NO! He sucks! He has no right to be on the page! He makes unimaginative, crappy vids(though I have no room to talk) yet he is one of the top subscribed? Jesus! —Preceding unsigned comment added by FOXGEAR (talkcontribs) 05:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Danny of Gradual Report is soooo much funnyer!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by VivaLaBeckster (talkcontribs) 21:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

First set of comments

Mr. Saftey Corey Williams SMP Films

Where is mr saftey! come on man! they have Boh3m3,The Hill, and Lisa Nova! But No SMP!Shark64 02:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Well, hey Shark64, this is "the encyclopedia anyone can edit." I don't know of Mr. Safety, but if he's a notable subject, then you should start writing.--Absurdist 04:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

This article is screaming, SCREAMING for protection. Ichormosquito 05:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

  • I tried requesting semi-protection. I guess the anons aren't being disruptive enough.--aBSuRDiST -T J C- 15:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I tried, too. It'll happen. All we need is a particularly feisty anon, and there's no short supply of those. Ichormosquito 18:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Neil Cicierega

Neil Cicierega was recently added to the list. I'm not sure if he qualifies as his prominance isn't a result of his presence on YouTube. He seems to have already been prominant without it. However, I'm not really familiar with his history, so I'm not removing him.--Absurdist 19:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

My first exposure to him was through YouTube. If there's evidence his fame significantly increased because of YouTube, I don't mind his being listed. He's on the Most Subscribed list. Ichormosquito 21:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I found it odd that he was here. He'd long been famous for his animutations (I first came into contact with his name about 4 years ago), and even Potter Puppet Pals was long before that, so I'd suggest that any YouTube success he's had is simply building upon his older name recognition. AOEU Warrior 19:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm removing him. Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is at List of Internet phenomena, anyway. Ichormosquito 02:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Tay Zonday I'd say he IS a YouTube celeb. He gets at least 10 comments per hour with Chocolate Rain. Sometimes 30! He should be on the list. Almost eveyone on YouTube has been RainRoll'd!!! YouTube even had it featured!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladder4321 (talkcontribs)

  • Not everything YouTube features is notable, and neither are heavily commented YouTube videos. Third-party sources (not YouTube or sites related to the subject) are needed to establish notability. Anyway, lets see how the speedy deletion of Tay Zonday goes before adding to this list.--aBSuRDiST -TC- 16:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
  • That article had a lot of false starts, and vandalism. His notability seems to have been established, and was added to this list a few days ago. --aBSuRDiST -TC- 02:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

SWEET. He has a page now lol. I knew he'd be here eventually. That's kool. Ladder4321 19:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Ryan Wieber

How come Ryan Wieber isn't on there because of Ryan vs. Dorkman?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jm479 (talkcontribs)

  • I'm surprised that Ryan Wieber hasn't been through afd. The article doesn't cite any third-party stories on the subject. All the footnotes and external links are primary sources.--aBSuRDiST -TC- 17:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


He has over 100 blog videos and is recognized by a lot of people as a Youtube celebrity. Which get thousands of views and comments with each video. So can somebody please make an article for him and add him to the list. I don't know why he isn't on there. (not signed)

Daxflame is definitely a phenomenon on sites such as 4chan, having spawned many an image macro with his quotes and images from videos such as tapeface and the 'block and swipe' video regarding G4. I think he should be included on this page. 19:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to make an article about daxflame before he can be listed. To do that, you will need to take your case of daxflame's notability to WP:Deletion review, as his page has already been deleted on more than one occasion and, as of now, cannot be recreated. I would wait until he gets more attention outside of YouTube first, however, so that his article can satisfy the guidelines at WP:NOTE. Ichormosquito 22:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you do that? Wikipedia confuses me in so many ways. I personally don't know how do those kinds of things.

I want to, seeing as how his videos take less than a week to get over 100,000 views; but his article would still need sources. As soon as he turns up enough Google news hits, I or someone else will be sure to get one up. Ichormosquito 07:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It would also be hard to write the article, as it's hard to know if he's faking it or not. But still, he has 55,000 subscribers, so I think he deserves an article. He's a lot more famous than most of the people that already are on the list.--The monkeyhate 21:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It's been proven that it's fake, his name is Madison, there are pictures of when he was younger, and if you watch his earlier stuff his "Mom" calls him Bernice, but later ones he tells people his name isn't Bernice, meaning his mom would've been told to say Bernice, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

His Mom calls him Bernice as a pet name, he claims that because he does not like his real name because he was named after his grandma (his real name is Madison Patrello, as there is a source conferiming that on the site for the baseballl team he plays for.)Besides that, "Madison Patrello" needs an article here and needs to be added to the list.--Sonicobbsessed (talk) 03:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


He Should be on here? Bobo6balde66 15:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

He needs an article first. I can't find any secondary sources to his name, so creating a verifiable article will be difficult. He might fulfill WP:WEB enough for a stub, given that Super Deluxe hosts his content; but this argument would be a tough sell at AfD. And if his notability will only hinge on Super Deluxe, I'm not sure he could be classified as a YouTube celebrity. Ichormosquito 18:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

But he could be on that list couldnt he? Bobo6balde66 14:45, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

no, because he is not a YOUTUBE celeberty, put him on the superdeluxe list.--Sonicobbsessed (talk) 03:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


I suggest moving this list to List of articles about YouTube celebrities or List of Wikipedia articles about YouTube celebrities. As a list of Wikipedia articles it might discourage the addition of redlinks etc. What does everybody think?--aBSuRDiST -TC- 02:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I would not support such a move. I don't think this is intended to be a list of YouTube celebs with Wikipedia articles but a list of notable YouTube celebs. We're using the existence of a Wikipedia article as a proxy for notability. If someone were to add a new person to this list with several good sources, I'd argue for retaining the addition despite the header and practice of only accepting those with articles.
If we just wanted a list of YouTube celebs *only* with articles, then it would be far easier to just add them all to a category and be done with it. --ElKevbo 03:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with ElKevbo on this one. List of Wikipedia articles about YouTube celebrities = Category:YouTube video producers. See List of Internet phenomena for an example of what ElKevbo's talking about: though they're all sourced, not all the entries on that list have corresponding articles. What I'm wondering is if a page about YouTube celebrity in general could exist separately from List of YouTube celebrities, like how Internet memes does from List of internet phenomena. Ichormosquito 03:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Brotherhood 2.0

I suggest adding Hank Green, the writer of "Accio Deathly Hallows," which has over 700,000 views and was featured on youtube. He and his brother, author John Green, have a system where they alternate posting a video blog every weekday to each other as their only means of communication during 2007. Called Brotherhood 2.0, it has gotten to be very popular, especially after Accio Deathly Hallows, and thus made the two, and particularly Hank, overnight internet--and specifically YouTube--celebrities. Hank was even asked to contribute to a Harry Potter article in the New York Times because of his vlog. I'm working on a wiki for Hank, trying to make sure it is worth adding, but in the meantime I want to add him on here, if there are no objections. Comments? Jax

Please cite some very good sources or create a Wikipedia article (with very good sources) before adding anyone to this list. In other words, establish that the person(s) is notable. --ElKevbo 04:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
If you want to make an article, look over WP:NOTE to see what kind of sources you will need. If you decide the subject doesn't fit the guidelines listed, show us what sources the subject does have; and we might be able to list him without a corresponding article. Ichormosquito 09:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

This list is absurd

  • how does wikipedia measure the notable of any of these vloggers ? i am interested to hear discussion over why this list means standards Apelike 19:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm not 100% sure, but I would say by either total views, subscribers, or channel views. ÇɧĭДfrĪĔпd12 02:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • The notability of each vlogger is determined by the amount of non-trivial coverage of the subject in reliable third-party sources (see WP:BIO and WP:RS). If the subject has little or no third-party coverage then the articles are deleted, and/or they aren't included in this list. This is done on a case-by-case basis, as with all Wikipedia articles.--aBSuRDiST -TC- 16:11, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • which is complete BS; the whole point of YouTube is that 'unknown' people can broadcast their creations, and if enough people watch, they become 'known'. Using outside sources to signify the notability of YouTube people is completely hypocritical. The only way that this page can be legitimate is if it is determined by total views, subscribers, and channel views. Jpq21 (talk) 21:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I am amused that Absurdist replied in this particular thread. :) --ElKevbo 16:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The Turks

There is a theesome, Volkan Öge, Tansu Tunçel and Ömür Cedimağar by name, who made two videos and have appeared in famous talk shows (like Beyaz Show) and newspapers like Radikal [1] or even Hürriyet [2] wrote about them ([3], [4]) . the three guys transformed French songs into something different: Sütü seven kamyoncu (The milk loving truck driver) - originally si tu savais combien, and Bana kitap al (Buy me a book) - originally Ne me quitee pa. Funny thingies, if you know turkish. What I wanted to say is that there is not a single young turk who wouldn't know these YouTube celebs, so they might deserve an article - but how shall i do it? It's a group but they don't have a name. --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 12:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Very interesting. Maybe you can call it "Bates Motel Productions"? From what I can tell from their YouTube channel, it's what they call themselves. I can't read Turkish, though, so I can't speak to their notability. The sources seem legit enough. Ichormosquito 04:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Edgar's Fall (la caida de edgar)

Edgar was a world phenomenon in early YouTube, he appeared on CNN, BBS, became one of the most watched videos in Japan, Russia, England, China, Brazil, appearing later in interviews, commercials, YouTube users made their own versions, remixes. Why this little boy became so famous? it's a mistery. but we cannot deny his famous breakthrough because of YouTube.

You're right, it is a mystery. 4 million views because some hapless 7-year-old has a sadistic friend? But the video seems to have received coverage: [5] [6] [7] Here's the video: Its demonstrable effect on the YouTube community: The obvious Star Wars themed parody: See what they say at Talk:List of Internet phenomena. If we don't make an article about it, we can always list it with a few of the sources. Ichormosquito 04:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Google Mexico recenty featured Edgar, referring to him as " El famoso Edgar le da la Bienvenida a Youtube México!!". Here's the link: I think we should list him. Ichormosquito 22:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Natalie a.k.a. Communitychannel ?

Hi, I noticed that Natalie, username communitychannel wasn't on this list, but I think she should be. She is both a director and a partner on YouTube and her video blogs have received a ton of honors. What are your thoughts? --Drenched 06:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I say add her and add WHATTHEBUCKSHOW/Peron75 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Add her. She plays different characters like Christine Gambito, a.k.a. HappySlip and do it very good. She is #31 - Most Subscribed (All Time) and #23 - Most Subscribed (All Time) - Directors. --Adler 71 16:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, folks

If this article is going to stay, I think it needs a radical change. There needs to be more information about YouTube celebrity in general. Ichormosquito 03:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

We should probably categorize the celebs, as well. 3 categories I can think of are "serials", "musicians", and some basic vlogger category. Ichormosquito 03:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

GiR2007 (James Provan)

James needs a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want to bring it back, first look over this page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Provan. If you find fault with the arguments presented, take your case to WP:Deletion review. Your luck there will depend on how many reliable sources you can find. Ichormosquito 02:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Name Change

I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something, but why exactly was the page moved from List of YouTube celebrities to YouTube celebriries? Calgary 19:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Editors suggested we do so at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of YouTube celebrities, probably to hit home the argument that "YouTube celebrity" is a sourced phenomenon and can sustain its own article. I could go either way. Ichormosquito 23:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


Smosh is obvious and should be on the list. They have the most subscribed to channel on youtube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:07, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you know who are Ian Hecox and Anthony Padilla? Onur Tcontribs 22:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

OK WOW BUTTCRACK,smosh is on,THY LIST! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


If half of those are YouTube celebrities, then comedian Kevin Wu, a.k.a. KevJumba definitely should be on here. He is the number one subscribed comedian all time - 19:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You might find this interesting: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevjumba. So far as I know, Kevjumba hasn't been mentioned in the mainstream media. Ever. He even has his own website Articles need reliable sources. As things stand right now, you'd have better luck petitioning the New York Times to write a feature about Kevjumba than you would pushing an unsourced Wikipedia article about him. Find reliable sources and we'll be in business. Ichormosquito 20:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You can't find half of the users on this page in any media outside YouTube. m w 04:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Matthew Lush (GayGod)

Is he notable enough for Wikipedia? Onur Tcontribs 23:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Common sense says yes, but we really shouldn't list someone as a YouTube celebrity until a reliable source has referred to him as such. The list would spiral out of control. Ichormosquito 02:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
What about his ranking on Stickam and photo with Jeffree Star? Onur Tcontribs 15:59, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I still think we should hold out for reliable sources. Ichormosquito 15:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I might have found one. Ichormosquito 19:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

need references

the fallowing need references: Yousef Abu-Taleb a.k.a. danielbeast from lonelygirl15, The Whogasm girls, Wei Wei of the Back Dormitory Boys, Smosh, Sam Norman, a.k.a. Samwell, creator and performer of "What What (In the Butt)", Rhett McLaughlin of Rhett and Link, Olde English, Luke Johnson, of the Luke Johnson Phone Experiment, Andy McKee, Liam Kyle Sullivan, a.k.a. liamkylesullivan, a.k.a. "Kelly" (The Shoes Song), James Rolfe, a.k.a. the Angry Video Game Nerd, Erik Mongrain, and Andy McKee --Dillio411 18:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Most of them have references in their respective articles, but we should make the effort to import. There might be one or two we'll have to remove from the list. Ichormosquito 09:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Youtube Partners

Since partners all seem to have a large amount of subscribers or be well known does anybody else think they might deserve to be added to the list? Just an idea.-- (talk) 22:39, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

If YouTube brings them on as partners it would seem to validate their status.RobBertholf (talk) 19:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


Are they really "celebrities"? There was only one video, (at which received less than 22,000 views, two orders of magnitude less than some of the others, and their notability seems to have been extremely temporary, limited to June 2007. • Anakin (contribscomplaints) 00:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

They're probably not celebrities. Ichormosquito (talk) 21:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


wouldnt user gaydiamond be a notable celeberty? she has hundreds of thousands of veiws and many parodys about her  Sub!  01:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Does she have sources? Ichormosquito (talk) 21:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


MRirian 10,288 Suscribers 760,789 Channel views Most of her videos gain at least 200,000 views. Over half of her videos have at least 800 comments.

I would say this YouTube user, although a bit strange, qualifies to have her name on the list.SacredX (talk) 23:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

This is my favorite YouTuber after TheHill88, but we can't list her without sources. Ichormosquito (talk) 08:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I would say that MRirian is now due to an entry in the list. A lot of things have changed since the last entry here. She has now become a Youtube Partner and there are different reliable sources outside of Youtube. (Printmedia) She had two interviews with the japanese edition of weekly playboy, the first on 02/09/2008 and the second in the april edition. There are 2 videos on Youtube who let you browse in this edition. More info about it in my MRirian FAQ: (TV) MRirian was also invited by the japanese TV-Staion GYAO to japan and had an appearance on the TV-Show. There are videos about this show on Youtube. Here is a website on GYAO: Subtitled versions of this japanese TV-Show with MRirian as guest are available at the YT Channel of Forryga: --Firithfenion (talk) 22:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Corey, Melbourne party-boy

Not sure we should list him, as his article has already been deleted over BLP concerns. I hesitate even giving his last name. Here's a valid source, though: Ichormosquito (talk) 04:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

He did not gain attention due to videos posted on youtube. It may have helped, but that wasn't the main reason he got attention.--Seriousspender (talk) 16:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

davedays Should Be In Here

Davedays should be on this page, and he has a pretty good case in favor of adding him to it. To start, he's a youtube partner. He over 19,000 subscribers and 629,314 channel views. His "I've Got A Crush On Hillary" video has been seen by almost 600,000 people in just one week.His most viewed video has been seen 3,178,789 times. He has no videos under 3 1/2 stars and the majority of his videos range from 4-5 stars. Not to mention, his multiple appearences on National tv. His video appeared on MSNBC when it was discovered and a few days following that he appeared again on MSNBC to give an interview.Then theres the talent he possesses,most of his videos are songs and the mastery of his guitar playing and singing actually in my opinion and in the opinion of the many users who comment on his videos should be utilized in an actual band not just for comedic songs. However he truly has a gift for composing great lyrics and the rhetoric in his songs)whether intentional or not)is nothing short of mind blowing.Davedays is truly a youtube celebrity and he's only gonna get better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

How did Pat Condell get added?

How did he get on here without any discussion? Just about every other name on that list was discussed yet he wasn't? I mean, compared to Chris Crocker, kevjumba, WHATTHEBUCKSHOW, and DAXFlame, he's pretty low on the subscribers list, or world-news sources discussing him. Despite the lack of popularity, hype (as in number of news sources talking about him), or even number of videos (all compared to the above), he made the list. It doesn't make much sense that he gets onto the list when the rest of the pack, outrunning him, doesn't. Anyone know what the deal is? Paladin Hammer (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Another note, his entry was added: 15:37, 15 December 2007 . So we are letting non-wiki members not only edit youtube, but avoid discussion altogether? All I'm saying is that the article doesn't make a lot of sense if we aren't applying some kind of rules to how someone on youtube is considered a "celebrity". Paladin Hammer (talk) 19:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Page protection

I'm locking down this page for one year. Hopefully it'll make keeping this list free of every wanna-be celebrity spam easier. Wikipedia IS NOT a soapbox for you to increase your channel views. It's an encyclopaedia. If your YouTube video or channel hasn't been mentioned by a major news or media outlet, then it's simply NOT NOTABLE and has no place on this list. Our Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Notability (web) policies are very strict on this. --  Netsnipe   ►  10:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Needs some Turkish users I think

Without batesmotelpro, Mehmet Kurt is famous with his Lost parody featured others called "Höst" and also Öykü-Berk Gürman siblings are featured on Mainstream Turkish Media with a flamenco style türkü[8]. Plus Toaana (Actually, She's from Germany but she claims that she is Turkish like de:Grup Tekkan). What about copyrighted videos of Turkish TV series? OnurTcontribs 18:16, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Why is Gary Brolsma listed?

As it says in his own damn article, the Numa Numa video was created (and thus gained acclaim from) NewGrounds years before YouTube itself existed. This is -not- a place to list anyone from anywhere who has become popular via videos, but through YouTube's publicity! Gary was only featured once on YouTube - and that was from his new (highly unpopular!) new video. I sense idiocy afoot. Melaisis (talk) 16:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Now where's NigaHiga?

Nigahiga, or Ryan Higa, is the 2nd most subscribed comedian on Youtube (originally the first but pushed down by Smosh who changed category to Comedian) and the third most subscribed of all time. He is most noted for his "How to be" videos together with Sean Fujiyoshi (Fujiboi) and his Soulja Boi parodies (in particular Yank Dat Cameltoe). Somebody oughta put him in here, even though he doesn't have any magazine articles about him as far as I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alebeska (talkcontribs) 15:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (web) is very strict about references. We simply make NO EXCEPTIONS on this or else everyone and their dog will be adding themselves to this list. --  Netsnipe  ►  16:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Do these honors count for anything? (Updated) ~Stattums

  1. 1 - Most Subscribed (This Month) - Partners
  2. 1 - Most Subscribed (All Time)
  3. 1 - Most Subscribed (All Time) - Comedians
  4. 1 - Most Subscribed (All Time) - Partners
  5. 9 - Most Viewed (This Week)
  6. 1 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Comedians
  7. 3 - Most Viewed (This Week) - Partners
  8. 15 - Most Viewed (This Month)
  9. 1 - Most Viewed (This Month) - Comedians
  10. 10 - Most Viewed (This Month) - Partners
  11. 18 - Most Viewed (All Time)
  12. 2 - Most Viewed (All Time) - Comedians
  13. 17 - Most Viewed (All Time) - Partners (talk) 20:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

NigaHiga isn't on here!? They're very notable. Ryan Higa and Sean Fujiyoshi are going to be in a movie, Ryan and Sean's Not So Excellent Adventure. They have 54 videos, 4 of them each have over 10,000,000 views, and they have about 460,000 subscribes. So shouldn't that count!?


Now they're #1 most subscribed all time! Okay, they're in a movie, they have 4 videos have over 10mil views, all their other videos have over 2mil views, and they're #1 most subscribed all time on Youtube! That has to count...

sXephil has been added

I added sXe Phil along with the reference and the reference is a reliable source. On the reference page ( on your top tool bar click "edit" then click "find in this page" and type "Phil" in the find bar. Hit enter and it should bring you to the paragraph where Defranco is mentioned.

--FallingDarkness (talk) 22:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Removed because a simple mention in an article nothing to do with the user is not real coverage. You need an article on the user, not a 1 sentence mention.--YooTuba (talk) 11:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, in that case I'm done with trying to add sXephil, I gave it my best shot, but there doesn't seem to be enough to add him I guess.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FallingDarkness (talkcontribs) 16:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Found an article ON sXephil: -- It is about the same topic he gained fame for in the New York Times article, except the whole article is about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokeHomsar (talkcontribs) 03:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

So, apparently, Lisa Nova gets to be on the list without references, but the 11th most subscribed member on YouTube can't. How does that make sense? By saying they need references, and Lisa Nova doesn't have references, you're making an exception. Why not for sXephil? Because he wasn't in a Smosh video?PokeHomsar (talk) 08:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Found another article: PokeHomsar (talk) 11:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

He shouldn't be on here. He is only known by some YouTuber users. The articles he is in only mention quotes from his show. The articles are not about him or what he has done on YouTube. I think he should be removed from the list. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 18:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

He's not only known by a few... He has over 130,000 subscribers... Also Kelly does not have any references, and she's only known by a few as well.PokeHomsar (talk) 20:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

He was on the "Who's who on Youtube" segment of Attack of the show. Link here --> . I think this make him officially a Youtube celebrities. Just add him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girot (talkcontribs) 23:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Öykü-Berk Gürman Siblings

I started an article about them in Turkish wiki. Should they be added to there? OnurTcontribs 18:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Added OnurTcontribs 20:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Danny, a.k.a Tourettes Guy

This guy has is in alot of videos in a series by the same name. Seems to be filmed by son, but up by a friend. All the videos have more than 2 million view. Not on Youtube anymore, died 2 years ago in a car accidnet, was in the national news. Im busy right now so Id like someone to look into it. He also might be on the list, but I wasnt paying attention. He has sources, and his kid is has a website dedicate to him. 20:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Judson laipply?!?!

Only about the most famous youtuber ever... he made evolution of dance which has the most views of any video on youtube. Why isnt he on the list????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosox38schilling (talkcontribs) 05:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC) I definately agree he should be on the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosox38schilling (talkcontribs) 05:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe no1 even mentioned him yet! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosox38schilling (talkcontribs) 16:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree, if I can find some references I will add him.

The point of this list.

Is the idea of this article to list users who have gained fame outside of YouTube? If that is the case then names without their own pages should be removed because they are not notable enough. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

duncan construction prank phone calls

Frank Garrett is a construction worker used for prank phone calls. his voice was taken from some prank phone calls, and has somewhat of a cult following. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:CITE? Also see: WP:WEB. --TwentiethApril1986 19:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


someone needs to put "rtdancingqueen" in she is so famous--Fmrtw (talk) 22:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC) source:rtdancingqueen herself

She only has 21 subscribers and only YouTube links come up in results from Google search.. So no, she isn't famous. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 22:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

sXephl Removed Again...

Why does someone keep removing Philip DeFranco? He's a YouTube celebrity, we have 3-4 references, he was even quoted in the New York Times (no matter how much I hate it, the most read newspaper in America,) and there's many that want him on the list. Just add him already.PokeHomsar (talk) 05:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I put him back on the page with four references. I think that should suffice. PokeHomsar (talk) 07:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

The NY Times just quote him from one of his videos, the article doesn't mention what he does and if he is big on YT. Again with the Ada Evening News link, just quotes him. The "AOTS - Sxephil Bio" video has been taken down. I'm not really sure about the TechCrunch link.
"YouTube celebrities are those persons or groups who have grown to prominence and become Internet phenomena on the basis of their appearance in YouTube videos." Phil isn't really an Internet phenomena. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 13:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

He's the ninth most subscribed person on YouTube, having more subscribers than most on this list. To be quoted in the New York Times is something... And the AOTS thing is still up. He's better than most.PokeHomsar (talk) 03:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes it's all good being notable inside YT but outside of that no one knows about him. Yeah quoted in the NY Times about what he was saying in his video but he didn't have a whole section about him. Just because you got your name mentioned in a paper, doesn't make you notable. People would have forgot his name by now. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 04:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Shay Carl and Clip Critics

Well, both of them have gone to As One YouTube gatherings, so they're obviously somewhat big...PokeHomsar (talk) 03:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what the list is about. Just because they went to 'As One' that doesn't make them notable. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 04:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

They're both YouTube partners, i.e. they get advertising money from YouTube. That makes them notable in it of itself.PokeHomsar (talk) 05:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Only if you can show how Youtube's criteria for such involves a high degree of notability or implied notability. Analogously, not everyone in a TV commercial gets on Wikipedia, because you don't need to be notable to get on a TV commercial. Getting advertising money does not imply notability by itself. -- (talk) 21:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I really think that Mikey Davis, mooshinana77661991, really should be added to this list!!!!!!!!!!

I have got reliable sources right here telling me he is popular on youtube, I typed in his name on youtube and actually found two videos of girls saying they are in love with him, also he has I think 120 videos or so, of original funny content that gets thousands of views, and are still being viewed, every time i go to his Bored Emo Guy video there's more and more comments and views, other videos are Mr. Smilez, The Emo Love For A Resse's Peanut Butter Cup, The Emo Food Competition, and there are others too, he is really funny and has ALOT of talent, everyone I know watches his videos and are in love with him, you NEED to put him on here, he's great! Also from what I have heard, he has ALOT of obsessive girls writing to him everyday, they say they want his babies, you should really add him to this he's pretty popular with teenagers and girls, and your insane if you don't add him, because he is an inspiration and a hero to people, even read his comments on Bored Emo Guy, they all say he's their hero! I also found out that he had a guy offer him a sponsorship deal or something, to do stand up comedy around Illinois, because of his videos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:36, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you having a laugh? --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Having a laugh????? He is really awesome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Show some sources, and he may be added. Because I've never heard of him. (talk) 15:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

YES!! this guy is pretty much like an obsessive girl magnet, like, girls really don't think he's hott, alot do but on this video they are kind of obsessed with his comedy more, you do not have to be hott to be a youtube celeb. so here it is..., also another one, this one is a little bit stalkerish, but hey i guess I'm a stalker too cuz i knew about this video by typing his name in so whatever, but it's some girl, don't know who, just filming his bored emo guy video..., Now in these videos, they don't have millions or even thousands of views, but you can tell, he's liked by alot! And if he was not liked by alot, why would somebody(me) be fighting for him to be put on wikipedia, there's a thought right there. He also plays bass in a band, I know that isn't helping him to be on this list, but I wanted mention that cuz I think it is sexy hahaha, his comedy on youtube is so original and amazing though!

Mark Day

Mark Day is a hilarious blogger that talks about stuff. He is a YouTube partner (gets paid for his videos.) MarkDayComedy is his YouTube name. (talk) 18:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


Chadwardenn is a wannabe gangster who uses false facts about the Playstation 3 (which he calls the PSTriple which is sometimes used to mock the system beecause of him). He deleted his account a few months ago after 200+ video responses and joke videoes insulting him. He is also a common theme in "Youtube Poops". I think Chadwardenn should be added to this list. SmroWofnaC (talk) 09:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not supposed to be a consortium of attack pages. You haven't even brought up any reliable sources. -- (talk) 21:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
If you search "chad warden" on Google, you get 986,000 results. that's quite a bit. not only that, but on YouTube, the sidebar on any Chad Warden video is full of nothing but other Chad-related videos. you can check yourself —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


Magibon, a.k.a Mririan should be added to the list. - (talk) 07:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

What happens on religion?

What happens when you've got a really popular character everyone knows but no mass media wants to talk about him due to his religion attack oriented videos and nickname? Is he less popular because of that? Then why you deleted his article when it actually had one reliable source? Are you afraid of satanizing Wikipedia then? Or is it because he's Mexican and non-notable as all non-US citizen are? That's how you see it isn't it? Now seems everyone with no other talent that sleeping with their eyes closed will have an article on Wikipedia. Seems he's right about all this then. You should watch El Anticristo's video about Bush then. It describes you perfectly. --Fluence (talk) 03:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Also see WP:ROUGE for other things every single one of you people are.
As for being unable to find mass media sources, try notable blogs instead. -- (talk) 21:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Judson Laipply

I do not understand why the creator of the most viewed Youtube video is on here. He really has achieved celebrity status by now.

Mamaluigi86 (talk) 23:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)Mamaluigi86Mamaluigi86 (talk) 23:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

sXephil Removed Again?

Why did you remove sXephil again? He's been added and removed multiple times. Just let him stay on the list already. (talk) 15:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


I don't see what's so special about YouTube celebrities for a list. Why not merge it with List of Internet phenomena? After all, there is little content on this page compared to that which is on List of Internet phenomena: for example, there is little about Chris Crocker on this page, but there is much more on List of Internet phenomena. --jftsang 13:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

There are myriad sources concerning the specific phenomenon of "YouTube celebrity". If you want to add fuller descriptions to the entries here, feel free. Ichormosquito (talk) 20:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


Chiren Boumaâza aka Athene "the best paladin in the world" is one of the most popular of the Youtube celebrities out there and is consistently amongst the "Most Viewed" videos on the site. His popularity has gotten him on G4TV's attack of the show segment "Who's on Youtube" Dizrupt (talk) 14:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


Not sure if anybody's asked this yet. Charlestrippy needs to be added to this list. He's only #54 for most subscribed (as of Aug. 15 2008) but he's worthy of being called a YouTube celeb. Also add Fred, Kevjumba, Makemebad35. They're all good too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainhero493 (talkcontribs) 00:14, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


They're very new, so they don't have very many subscribers or viewers, but I think they're great. They really very funny, and have great book and movie reviews. They've just added a bunch of new segments as well. It's two best friends communicating every four days via vlog. They're nerdfighters, but they don't spend too much time talking about it. I think they should definately be on this list as "Up and Coming Celebs". AlliSteph 43Emily (talk) 22:21, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Please look at the template atop this page. Ichormosquito (talk) 03:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Arsha Asteraki

Arsha is oretty popular and is partneredd and has gotten featured and defiantlty deserves bein on this list —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


Should this guy be added to the list? Let me know. (Planecrash111 (talk) 20:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC))

Cannot edit for a year?

Well I don't think that will help this page at all. I mean youtube changes all the time. The list will be so outdated and will not be worth keeping. Youtube celebrities come and go all the time. What use would a year out of date article be in 1 year. If its becoming such an issue, it should be deleted. Something needs to be done about this and sharpish. (talk) 15:22, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed! There needs to be special consideration as 90% of the names currently listed are no where to be found on YouTubes honor roll and have faded out of sight. The list should be updated with the top comedians as YouTube is very good at documenting who their top performers are.RobBertholf (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

You should srsly add him. Or I will molest you in your sleep. Just sayin'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, seriously! Like what is Emmalina doing on this list, she only has around 29,000 subscribers! I know YouTubers who have thousands more subscribers that are not on this list, such as JamesNintendoNerd or Thecomputernerd01 or WasteTimeChasingCars. -- (talk) 04:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

A few suggestions

what about contraverial users who speak out against religion or atheism A few you could include in there are....
TheAmazingAtheist The C of E (talk) 17:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Burger king Rap(parody of mcdonalds rap)

Its by cursedreject and i think its cool because it has over 300,000 views the people in the video are chad sison, joshua fritz and errold tumaque76.169.145.138 (talk) 15:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


What about cyriak? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

None of these people should have wikipedia pages

None of them are notable. A single source from a newspaper makes ou notable? Than everyone who ever has a comment or article about them in a newsaper should have an article. rite? None of these people are celebrities or notable people. I have never said 'Ya know what I need to know about cric croker and brookers who are nobodies'. This whole section should be deleted. Someone message me about how I can nominate them for deletion please. (talk) 07:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you read this article before stating blatantly false information. Many of these celebrities have multiple sources to establish notability. A lot of your baseless statements and opinions display a clear case of you wanting to delete these articles simply because you don't like them. Nominating all of these articles for deletion would clearly be disrupting Wikipedia to make a point. (talk) 14:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

YouTube Discoveries

Should people who have posted videos in YouTube where they became a bit popular then were seen as promising talents by "People who discover celebrities" who promote them in other media, like Charice Pempengco whose videos were posted on YouTube then shown to Ellen DeGeneres who featured her on her show, then Oprah featured her too and, Celine Dione singing with her. Nicholo05 (talk) 15:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Arnel Pineda

The rock band Journey discovered Arnel through his youtube videos... since then he has become a celebrity... where is he????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Nick Pitera (goonieman86)

Nick Pitera is fairly well know for his ability to sing both male and female vocals well. He is most notable for his rendition of "A Whole New World" from Disney's Aladdin and for his rendition of "Part of Your World" from Disney's the Little Mermaid which he entered in Disney's "Give Us Your Voice Contest." Here are a few articles which talk about him: Pitera also has a few songs on Facebook's "ilike" application as well as many groups dedicated to him. I really feel Nick Pitera is worthy of being listed on this page. Guild Wars Cap'n (talk) 02:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Blogs aren't considered to be reliable sources. Facebook groups aren't considered to be notability criteria either. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

A proposition

I propose that the "List of YouTube celebrities" and the separate pages for "celebrities" be moved to "YouTube phenomena". Most of them are/were only notable for a video which may have received minor media attention, which doesn't mean they should have their own Wikipedia article because of the that. A new page containing the YouTube "celebrities" and notable videos should be made. I believe it would be better to bring all the information to one place. TwentiethApril1986 (want to talk?) 17:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

  • I can find at least two people who did not just receive media attention for a single video. At any rate such a move would not work as it is still a list and it should acurately be called List of YouTube phenomena if such a move was to happen. - Mgm|(talk) 12:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


I'm surprised no one has mentioned thecomputernerd01, he has over 53,000 subscribers on YouTube and two videos with a million views, not to mention his videos get an average of 100,000 views within a week of being posted.. -- (talk) 03:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Bo Burnham

He was a featured act at YouTube Live, which makes him a YouTube Celebrity. (talk) 03:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Where's Kevjumba?

He was on here, who removed him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

James Rolfe

James Rolfe, or, the Angry Video Game Nerd, needs to be mentioned. He has his own wikipedia page, his site is cinnemassacre and he's affiliated with screwattack and gametrailers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, his YouTube account was featured on G4's "Attack of the Show" —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Julia Nunes

Julia Nunes played at YouTube live, is a partner, is one of the most subscribed musicians on YouTube, was interviewed on the most prominent local radio station in my area (710 KIRO on the Luke Burbank Show) even though she is not "local" (she's from NY), there are other news articles on her website, she's released two CDs, etc. etc. Bushman is even going to manufacture a model of ukulele because of her, and she opened for Ben Folds. I was going to just add her, but the list is contentious and I also wasn't sure I knew how to add it all correctly.Droidguy1119 (talk) 13:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Charlieissocoollike in 5 month's he's had over 14,000 subscribers

he's been featured on BBC, he's going to be on the View in ABC

What do you think?

04:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I guess we could list him. Where's the media love for paperlilies?! Ichormosquito 09:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
i think with the whole internet zombie movie ( paperlilies deserves a spot on the list.Ehsteve23 (talk) 22:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I agreeVeggieburgerfish (talk) 23:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Gradual Report

Danny should be added as he has so many subscribers ([1]) ([2]) Icewatever (talk) 20:59, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Surprised not to see Danny Grozdich of the Gradual Report on this list, he is in the top 30 most subscribed YouTube partners with over 15,000 subscribers! Anyone have a referene which is verifiable for the Gradual Report? He definately earned a spot on the list of YouTubers RobBertholf (talk) 05:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

  • DANNY WINS ALL THAT THERES WINABLE —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Danny is one of the funniest men i know, he MUST be added to this page! Xaike (talk) 19:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Add Danny, do it now!

Danny Grozdich and the Gradual Report are not listed on Wikipedia? What's up with that? How else do we get the official scoop on this crazy guy and his online antics? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Most definitely!!! His show has got to be the funniest things out there! Plus you generally learn something useful as well!!!Lilgothicbutterfly427 (talk) 03:58, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
  • yes! add danny to this page Cottonsince85 (talk) 01:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC) cottonsince85 12/08
  • Defiantly add Danny! Has to be my favorite on Youtube. If I was to choose one subscription, it would have to be Danny!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Agreed! Add Danny to this page! (talk) 22:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
  • yes! add danny to this page! his show is the shitnitz xD -mikey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skaterdude7824 (talkcontribs) 01:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Wow, just praising the person is not gonna allow him to be in the list... --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 01:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

No mention of Chris Crocker or Michael Buckley?

These guys are pretty well known, from It's Chris Croker and the What the Buck? Show. Seems strange that there should be no mention of them. McLarenJAB 17:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

The Stranger (newspaper) ran a fairly comprehensive piece on Crocker recently, but one source isn't enough for an article. There needs to be evidence of sustained coverage. Ichormosquito 00:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
He appears in South Park —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


What about Leggeh? there's a lot of subscribers and awards and she is known for her drawings that follow a story, song or dance. They are very amusing.OsirisV (talk) 20:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Just because they are popular on Youtube dose not mean they meet Wikipedia's standards for notable people.Kyle1278 (talk) 19:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Tony Huynh (TheWineKone)

I was surprised to see that Tony Huynh is not on the list. Come on, just because thewinekone is Canadian doesn`t mean he isn`t a celebrity on YouTube! (talk) 16:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Just because they are popular on Youtube dose not mean they meet Wikipedia's standards for notable people. Kyle1278 (talk) 16:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


Yet again, Wiki has failed to mention Boxxy, who in the beginning of this year, suddenly got really famous, and got an insane level of subscriptions. She didn't want to be famous, but she did... see This for more info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Just because they are popular on Youtube dose not mean they meet Wikipedia's standards for notable people.Kyle1278 (talk) 19:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Notability on Wikipedia is really inconsistent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:42, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

  • On Wikipedia we try to keep the article on it as notable as possible and we refrain from adding articles that have little to no notability and boxxy fall under that category. Kyle1278 (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Yea, wtf.


Home come Samtron didn't make the list. Her popularity has exploded in the last 6 months and has been featured on Attack of the Show twice, with her being on Women of the Web the second time, making the #2 spot, beating out several movie celebrities.

  • Just because they have been on AOTS dose not make them notable there have been many people on it and if we included everyone that was on it there would be an overwhelming amount of articles. Kyle1278 (talk) 21:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


Chadwarden must be on the list, cuz he is balli'n. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandhax (talkcontribs) 23:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC) --Gandhax (talk) 23:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Just because you say that makes him most likely not notable. Kyle1278 (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Charles Trippy

Where is Charles Trippy?PokeHomsar (talk) 01:36, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. Maybe follow him on Twitter and he should let you know where he is. Hope this helps. --TwentiethApril1986 (want to talk?) 01:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The Angry Video Game Nerd

Why isn't he listed on this page? He is one of the most well known users on YouTube, if he is notable enough to have his own article, then why isn't he notable enough to be part of this list? If you want reliable source just look around the "References" section in AVGN's article. (talk) 22:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

  • The reason he is not listed under the YouTube list is because he is on alot of other site and shows than just YouTube. Kyle1278 (talk) 16:38, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Yeah but he got his start on Youtube and was the... what, 9th most subscribed channel of all time? And he's been making a return to Youtube by reposting his videos from Gametrailers and ScrewAttack on Youtube.
      • Being the 9th most subscribed on Youtube dose not make them notable just because they have a lot of subscribers dose not mean they are notable there are many high ranking Youtube's not on this list. They would need mass media attention AOTS does not count there needs to be article on the web about them for agency's such as CNN, BBC, LA Times etc. He already has a Wikipedia article he dose not need to be listed on this list. Kyle1278 (talk) 21:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
        • One of his videos has been mentioned on CNN, so that fills your requirement. (talk) 20:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
        • He should be on the list. He is very notable on Youtube, and that is exactly where he got his start. There is absolutely no reason he shouldn't be on the list, and I am adding him in the first change I get. (talk) 10:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
          • You can not add him unless there are reliable resources and so far you have provided none even if you add him he will be removed within minutes of you adding him.he already has a page and it claims he is popular on more than just Youtube so th=at dose not make him a Youtube Celebrity. Kyle1278 (talk) 16:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
            • Reliable resources? Oh I know, I'll just take them from the AVGN page on Wikipedia, there will be plenty of resources there. Such as the resource that provides that information that he started on Youtube, and is still uploading videos to Youtube. He started off on Youtube, posts the majority of his videos on Youtube, he's one of the most well known and popular users, I daresay, a celebrity, and he is going on this list. And for the love of god, it is spelled "does" not "dose" stop making that mistake already. (talk) 20:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
              • He already has a page on Wikipedia that is why he is not listed under a Youtube Celebrity he dose not belong here on this list the article is about his show not about him the article has to be about the person who created the show not the show itself the current article is about a show shows can not be a Celebrity. Kyle1278 (talk) 21:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
                • I tried reading your comment out loud. Then I ran out of breath trying to endure the endless run-on sentence you spewed back at me. Also for the love of god it's "DOES" NOT "DOSE." Either way, if someone saw him on the streets, they would know exactly who he is. According to Wikipedia itself, A celebrity is a widely-recognized or notable person who commands a high degree of public and media attention. James Rolfe, the creator of the AVGN show, is a celebrity that gained his fame through YouTube. His video has been on CNN before, so he has plenty of media exposure as well. Seriously, you have changed your mind as to why he can't be on the list so many times it is ridiculous. You change your mind like a girl changes clothes. (talk) 13:58, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Sentence construction; only use capitals at the beginning of a sentence, or for proper nouns - " of god..." should be " of God" (or " of a god...") and it should have been "...Wikipedia itself, a celebrity.." and not "...itself, A celebrity..." Now, if you don't mind, I'm off to right rite sum content. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
This is assuming I feel god needs to be capitalized. Which I don't. (talk) 09:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Presumably to free-up a capital letter for "...itself, A celebrity"? This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 10:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Its really annoying try to explain it to someone who does not get it he does not have his own page about only him the only page is about his show. The Youtube Celebrity list is about people not there show. Kyle1278 (talk) 21:41, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


YouTube celebrities are those persons or groups who have grown to prominence and become Internet phenomena on the basis of their appearance in YouTube videos. He did just get popular from Youtube. Kyle1278 (talk) 16:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


Where's jameslikecoulter (or jameslikecrazySH)? Approximately 14,000,000 views of his videos should make him a celebrity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkim823 (talkcontribs) 03:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

There's a big box right at the top of this page which explains the criteria for inclusion. In short, celebrities in the context of this article are reported in reliable sources; YouTube ranking and Google hits do not alone a celebrity make. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 08:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


homersours NEEDS TO BE ADDED! THEY ARE THE F****IN GREATEST CHANNEL ON EARTH! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noggahahahahahaka (talkcontribs) 07:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, provide a reference - a URL or similar, showing how they've been named in the national press - and no doubt someone will add them for you. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 09:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Well this is kind of weird... I am homersours! Its nice that you are a fan, and we have had things outside of youtube. I am on an australian radio station called 2dayfm very often. I am also making a movie in November called "Shot Into The Sun". —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:27, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Christopher Bores AKA The Irate Gamer

Please add him to your list. RocketMaster (talk) 17:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Can you provide a reference (not from YouTube or Google) demonstrating some notability? Something like a newspaper article, for example. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 20:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)



Hello. I'm requesting that Kevin Wu (Kevjumba), Ian Hecox & Anthony Padilla (smosh) are on the list.

Can you provide a reference (not from YouTube or Google) demonstrating some notability? Something like a newspaper article, for example. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 20:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
I nulled the template for now. Please read the comment above me and find some sources and establish notability before using the template again. Killiondude (talk) 07:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


This guy is on YouTube from about 2 years and most of his success is on this website with his famous videos like Everyday Normal Guy or Show me your Genitals. He's the most subscribed in Canada. So, should he be on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pascalbg (talkcontribs) 01:39, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

You need to find some fame out side of Youtube about him and establish his notability first. Cheers Kyle1278 02:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


{{editsemiprotected}} Dave Days a musican with 293,389thats a big number subscribers at the date 12th march 2009 .He has a love for hannah montana (miley cyrus) his most viewed video on youtube is < pervert song LOL :)

Does he have any kind of celebrity status outside youtube? e.g. has he been mentioned in the national press, TV, etc?
Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 18:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Not done: What part of "YouTube ranking and Google hits do not make an account notable." is difficult to understand? —Ms2ger (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2009 (UTC) he actually has been mentioned, he has been on fox and cnn in march 08 for his "I've got a crush on hilery" video. hey I think Davedays should be put up. He's almost number 12 on the most subscribed list, and his Hannah Montana parodys are hilarious.
find article about him in a news paper or on a different site than YouTube.--Cheers Kyle1278 22:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


What about Justine Ezarik (aka iJustine) and she has 78,610 Subscribers. She had the viral video of the 300 Page iPhone bill which was a viral video! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Please read the top of the page. Cheers Kyle1278 02:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

"Mr. Pregnant"

What happened to Mr. Pregnant? He used to be on the list. He's terrible, but people seem to watch his videos. -- (talk) 01:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

You need to find some fame out side of Youtube about him and establish his notability first. Cheers Kyle1278 02:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariluxia (talkcontribs) 22:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC) 

Someone needs to add him back, he has appeared on so many TV shows -millipedeman —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I think you mean "someone needs to find one or more references from reliable sources establishing his notability - then add him back". If he has appeared on many TV shows then this should be an easy task. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 09:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

William Hung

What about William Hung the singer of "She Bangs" from American Idol? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:29, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

He is not a YouTube celebrity he got renown from American Idol not YouTube.--Cheers Kyle1278 14:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


Just want to point out this user. He's 12 and posts these ridiculous videos about how it is wrong to be gay and how he "used to be gay" and such. People are posting comments on his videos in droves and are making comments/edited versions. Just wanted to throw this out there.- JustPhil 18:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Athenewins / IPower / MovieLOL

Their main Youtube channel:

The starters of the Belgium political party NEE ('MovieLOL team'/ 'IPower crew' )

(Look at the cited references on the wikipedia articles)

Athene/Chiren and his fame in/among World of Warcraft - Shown on G4TV (Gaming/Tech reviews and news online tv station -


If they don't qualify as youtube celebrities I don't know who else does... —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Just a wild guess, but someone who gained their celebrity status from YouTube, and not, say, from forming a political party and then using YouTube to promote it? Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 14:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Maybe expand upon the NEE article for more info on their YouTube stuff?- JustPhil 15:54, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Mike Mozart

Man, what about Mike Mozart and his Fail Toys videos, he has 100,000 subscribers (talk) 21:50, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

You need to find some fame out side of Youtube about him and establish his notability first.Cheers Kyle1278 22:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Andy Milonakis

Was removed from the list by another editor. It needs a better ref if anyone wants to add it back "Known for his skits and clever freestyles that got him his own show on MTV the Andy Milonakis show. ref[9] /ref ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

The main reason i removed it was because the link was a Youtube video and that is not a good source try fining news articles about him.--Cheers Kyle1278 19:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


Not on the list, shouldnt he be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Jake Walmsley and Chris Green

Why arent they on? they were so famous they were even on Lily Allen's show. youve got to love them... theyve got their own website. they lip sync and even danced to the numa numa song. -shiok- —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

asa the comic

88,486 subscribers, 1.5m channel views, he probably deserves a spot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheJoak (talkcontribs) 08:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure you read the information above ("...YouTube celebrities who have been discussed in reliable sources. Entries without reliable sources will be removed. YouTube ranking and Google hits do not make an account notable."), so I'm slightly surprised you haven't provided any links to external media coverage. Do that and I'll be the first to agree with you. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 11:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


Hey I noticed that Natalie aka Communitychannel isn't on the list and I think that with 35,737 subscribers & #31 Most subscribed of all time & #22 Most subscribed Directors that she deserves to be on the list of Youtube Celebrities, what do you guys think?-- 01:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I love her. Can you find citations about her in the Australian press? Ichormosquito 01:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

i add her yesterday some one delete it, i just re-added her --Dillio411 23:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

And until you provide references we'll continue to delete her; please see WP:V. --ElKevbo 23:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately even though she is clearly a Youtube Celebrity she hasn't been cited in any Australian Press and so she can't be on the list, which is unfortunate.-- 00:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

she was mentioned on nbc and australia pc;1822699123;img;1397 ? Scissorsnjam (talk) 11:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm assuming it may be time to include her to the list, considering she was just cited in the Australia press today --Huyie (talk) 02:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Natalie Tran is her page and it contains references. AfD was closed without consensus, but with good arguments of notability. -Emir Habul (talk) 05:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Also does Mac aka wastetimechasingcars deserve to be on the list having a clothing range and 267753 subscribers plus a website —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The salient requirement here is "third-party reporting by reliable sources, which excludes Google, YouTube, and their own website. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 18:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


Found an article on "Hooking Up", his HBO show. It mentions his being a youtube celebrity. Can someone please add him on the list? Thanks a lot! 12:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


I noticed nigahiga (Ryan Higa and sometimes with Sean Fujiyoshi)wasn't on the list. I know he's 2nd most subscribed on Youtube and he's even had his own movie made with Michael Buckley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

They were removed from here per this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Higa Kyle1278 22:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

That said "non notable YouTuber" that's clearly not true... —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There are no external sources outside of YouTube that show his notability. Kyle1278 18:42, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

"There are no external sources outside of YouTube that show his notability. Here are links to his movie.

They don't demonstrate notability. He'd need mentions in the press. All these show is that (a) he has a website, and (b) he's mentioned on a website that anyone can edit (IMDB isn't considered a reliable source for that reason). Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 20:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, what about here? (talk) 01:25, 7 June 2009 (UTC)RoshanMcG

Aye, newspaper articles are fine. Good find! Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 01:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, but I'm pretty much Wikipedia-challenged. Could someone add them to the article? (talk) 04:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)RoshanMcG


Should be added to the list?-- (talk) 16:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Jason Steele

Jason Steele is the creator of "Charlie the Unicorn," " Mr. Happy Face" and other multimillion-plus viewed, YouTube videos, both animated and live action. He has 139,369 subscribers and is 27th most subscribed director of all time (as of July 1, 2009). His site is a popular site for fans to visit and he has one of the highest selling enterprises on for his "Charlie the Unicorn" merchandise.

Jason Steele also had a seventy-four (74) episode radio show, aired in 2005 to 2006, which he co-hosted with a fellow Newgrounds filmmaker and popular internet phenomenon Robert Benfer: also known as Knox or knoxskorner. (He is most notable for his signature blue claymen videos of which he made a feature length movie titled: "Klayworld: Off the Table.") The radio show Podcast is called KnoxKast Radio and is available on iTunes for free. (Some episodes can be found here: [10].)

Jason Steele lives in Orlando, Florida, where he continues to make videos for the internet and manage his web-based business.

He deserves to have more recognition. It can start with this list. I have one source from a Routers press release. Add more if you have any.

never heard of him Talk to Magibon 01:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Dan Quinn

Dan Quinn, anyone? He's been in before, and has been strangely (stupidly) taken out. He is a professional fighter, now more famous for his youtube video logs in which he calls out every other cagefighter in America. He should definitely be in - go on any mixed martial arts, UFC or cagefighting forum and he will be known and loved/hated on there. His old page that got suspended had over 115,000 views in around 8 months. Definitely deserves a place on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2fletch (talkcontribs) 18:12, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Please read the warning at the top of the page. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:13, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Adding AVGN

Hello, I'm adding James Rolfe, aka the Angry Video Game Nerd to this list. He is on the top 5 list, has appeared on the radio and television, has an IMDB page and has made a career from what he has done. DarthBotto talkcont 15:03, 07 April 2009 (UTC)

Please read this this. Cheers Kyle1278 23:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

James Rolfe gained notability because of his YouTube videos, as evidenced by many sources. His interview with Opie & Anthony and spotlight on G4TV only referenced episodes released on YouTube.[12][13] Once gained, notability cannot be lost. His removal seems to be more attributed to WP:IDONTLIKEIT instead of actually paying attention to the sources at hand. Vodello (talk) 16:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
This has the same case as Kevin Wu there are reasons why some people that seem like they should be on the list are not. AVGN did not just gain reputation through YouTube and thus is why he is not on the list the list is for people who pretty much got there whole career started from YouTube. Kyle1278 16:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Well if that's your line of thinking then what's Rick Astley doing on there? (talk) 12:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

You Forgot Someone

I think you forgot Charity Charmaine a.k.a. ladycookieluck in the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlubbityFloo (talkcontribs) 00:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Any form of notability? --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 00:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

The Amazing Atheist

I think the amazing atheist should be listed. He has about 70 grand subs so is that enough for him to be a celeb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:53, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure you read the information above ("...YouTube celebrities who have been discussed in reliable sources. Entries without reliable sources will be removed. YouTube ranking and Google hits do not make an account notable."), so I assume that in addition to the "70 grand subs" there are tonnes of references from reliable sources that you'll be providing shortly. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 01:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
TheAmazingAtheist was involved in at least one notable controversy and was, in fact, interviewed by the Lodon times. He was also featured in an article on wired magazine ( He has an encyclopedia dramatic page dedicated to him (ED is a site specializing in internet drama and internet celebrity). Also, he is ranked as the #67 "most famous internet celebrity" on the only site I could find that catalogs internet celebrities, ( He is also famous as a YouTube celebrity because of his association with other famous or psuedo-famous youtubers. He is the author of several books. According to youtube, he is the number 53 most subscribed user in the "Directors" category. A psuedo-branch of atheism has been named after him called "amazing atheists", defined in the urban dictionary. I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be added to the list. Socratesone (talk) 22:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
If there are no objections, I'll add it (talk) 07:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==Glanab and Corneilius Glanab and Corneilius is about two mentally disabled 13 year old boys having adventured such as traveling back in time. The show also features their new friend Comrad who they make as their pet in the traveling in time videos. they have 5 videos the newest on being that they catch "Gangstertizm". They are two part halloween special on October 10th. If you can find a newspaper article that mentions them, they can be added. I personally love that show.PokeHomsar (talk) 18:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, someone add Jory Caron and Jonathan Paula to the list!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomballguy (talkcontribs) 20:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


{{editsemiprotected}} Samwell became a YouTube celebrity after his "What What (in the Butt)" video (it'll exceed 23 million views any day now.) Then it was spoofed on South Park, in an episode highlighting well-known YouTube videos, further cementing his YouTube stardom. He was on the Lily Allen show, the song was on Sweden's Got Talent. Can someone please add him to the list? Thanks. (talk) 06:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Done Thank you.—C45207 | Talk 07:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Rhett and Link

Rhett and Link are a singing duo on YouTube.


Should be enough to get someone to put it here. (I suck with formatting...) PokeHomsar (talk) 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the sources i have added them.--Kyle1278 03:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Dan Brown Note

Regarding the note beside Dan Brown. Is it really necessary to include: "Earns thousands of dollars per month from YouTube ad revenue.". I'm pretty sure a lot of youtubers earn thousands of dollars per month from Youtube ad revenue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, i have removed the statement. Kyle1278 22:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


Please add the YTWatchdog.


I really suck at formatting, so someone please add him.

Thank you for your time. PokeHomsar (talk) 09:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Mitchell Davis (LiveLavaLive)

I feel as though Mitchell Davis deserves a spot on Wikipedia's list of YouTube personalities. Mitchell is currently #31 Most Subscribed of All Time on the site. Not only is he a comedian, but also an artist (Photographer, Videographer) With such artistic videos as "RRMM" show how articulate he truely is. With his friend Kyle and his grandparents Juanita and Leon and some familiar looking characters such as "Jerry", "Stache" and "Post-it Monster" he puts comedy and art through the roof.

The standard for inclusion is multiple non-trivial mentions in reliable, third-party publications. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 12:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


I'd like to suggest adding James rolfe Aka The Angry Video Game Nerd (AVGN)

i'dd add him but i am not registered on wiki but wikia and cdont have the time to register atm :P86.136.248.233 (talk) 13:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Please take a look at this Kyle1278 02:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Matthew Lush

{{editsemiprotected}} Matthew lush has done many videos, had millions of views on all of them, done 24hr + webcasts along with many other things, he deserves to be on the list, check his stats.—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Not done: Can you provide sources that show he is notable? Does he have a Wikipedia article? —C45207 | Talk 04:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


He was on Nick News(can be seen on his channel) in a interview about Youtube. He also had an article somewhere on the web. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC).

Judson Laipply

I would like to bring this guy up again. Evolution of Dance. Most viewed video of all time. If that's not pretty notable, I don't know what is. (talk) 07:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


Yeah, he's become significant, his reviews help video's views to go up, and he has 50,000 subscribers.. Pvmillennium (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Any notability outside YouTube, e.g. newspapers, TV news, etc? Cheers, TFOWRThis flag once was red 21:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Ray is one of my favorites, but we need to find a news source which discussed him... If only I had a national show... I'd totally do a segment in every show highlighting a YouTube personality...PokeHomsar (talk) 01:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

He has scored the second place in the more or less official Mr. YouTube contest. That means people like him. FYI Shane Dawson won the contest. That would be enough for me =3 edit: Also notable: Now he has 133,680 subscribers. --TFPortal Senkus (talk) 05:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion: links to their channels in the table

Since they are YouTube celebrities, (almost) all of them will still have YouTube channels. It would be very useful to have the table expanded in such a way that each line contains a link to the person's YouTube channel. For Philip DeFranco for example, the link would be -- (talk) 21:20, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Ken Tanaka

There should be an article. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 17:20, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Richard Michael Alvarez

Richard Michael Alvarez has to be notable enough to be on this list. Jeremjay24 21:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Add Kipkay

Kipkay. Best known for his DIY projects and making video for MakeMagazine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsade (talkcontribs) 11:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

B. Scott

I believe he should be added for his large following (a factor helped by his "perez hilton style" celebrity blog website (, his ability to gain interviews with celebrities (Nene Leakes, Kandi Buruss and Jordin Sparks as examples) and his activties in the NOH8, anti proposition 8 in California campaigners. Not to mention he already has a Wiki page here: -- (talk) 23:39, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Rick Astley?

I thought the basis for inclusion was those who become famous largely because of their YouTube videos. Rick Astley was already famous years before YouTube existed. For that matter, most videos of "Never Gonna Give You Up" as found on YouTube are examples of pirated copyright infringement.Docsavage20 (talk) 19:14, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Agreeing with the statement, Rick Astley did not create his fame through YouTube. As previously stated by Docsavage, his fame was through his music career. He then became a meme in the Internet and he did not make himself famous, but other users have. I suggest a removal of his name on the list, for it questions the criteria for notable YouTube celebrities. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 00:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Danny Grozdich

I think he should be on the list, because he's been making the Gradual Report for almost a year now, and he is very famous. And there's this article about him: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobas (talkcontribs) 16:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


I noticed he wasn't on the list. Charles is known all over youtube, he deserves to be on the list. I mean, he's #18 on most subscribed comedians of all time on youtube right now, and though he's not number one or two as I think he should be, thats still pretty impressive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous248 (talkcontribs) 03:02, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

You need to provide sources outside of YouTube like news articles.Kyle1278 00:59, 21 August 2009 (UTC) (talk) 03:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC))

I went ahead and added him --Eddie (talk) 03:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Dave Carroll (musician)

The singer of United Breaks Guitars should be included on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe this page exists.

You guys forgot Michelle Phan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you have sources outside of YouTube? Kyle1278 03:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe this page exists.

You guys forgot Michelle Phan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you have sources outside of YouTube? Kyle1278 03:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Ronald Jenkees

Definitely deserves to be on that list... has at least 5 videos with 3+ million views, 1 5 million view... has since released 2 albums and produced a song for an ESPN sportscaster, all because of his videos., just search Ronald Jenkees on youtube, pick any one of his songs, they're all amazing. Not a "trusted member" or whatever yet, or I'd definitely do it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crackyhoss (talkcontribs) 02:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you have sources outside of YouTube? The amount of views on a persons videos dose not make them notable on Wikipedia's notability standards. The site is not a reliable source since it is self published. Kyle1278 03:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was not done.  Skomorokh  09:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

List of YouTube celebritiesList of notable You Tube artists — I can't believe this page will be kept due to having no consensus... This could be another option. --Travis Thurston+ 06:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Shane Dawson continued discussion for his own wiki page...

Okay i tried submitting this message like 5 seconds ago and an error came up saying english wikipedia was having like server problems or something... anyway shortened the message this time hope it goes through just like to say my 2 cents worth of an opinion that Shane Dawson of youtube celebrity has now over 1 million subscribers and many video views. He has created different personas and characters. I honestly think he is notable enough for his own wikipedia page... but just saying thats what i believe at least... must be sources somewhere for Shane that could help... and he has also been going through medical surgery so thats big too... I know his page got deleted due to voting for deletion but if someone could please reply back to my message and he has a huge fan base btw also... Anyways let me know what u people think... thank you for your time. --Collaz45 (talk) 19:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Dan Quinn

Ridiculous that he does not have a wiki page - still more ludicrous that he is not even mentioned here. He is literally one of the most famous fighters ever thanks to his insane youtube ramblings in the last year

His first channel had 200,000 views, his second had 45,000 in its fairly short existence, his once deleted videos have tens of thousands of views each despite being re-uploads...... someone include him. I'm sure he was once in this list? Some halfwit delete him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Please read the top of the page the amount of video views or subscribers on YouTube dose not make them notable you need to provide sources out side of YouTube. Kyle1278 02:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


Should the compass of the article be broader than "YouTube"? Possible "List of Internet video celebrities" in order to not promote one specific site -- even if the majority of the list is from that site? Collect (talk) 16:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I suggested "List of internet video artists" at the AFD, although something like "List of notable contributors of internet videos" or "List of internet video contributors" might be a good idea as well. If we consider getting rid of the "YouTube" in the title, we should also remove the "celebrities" part. Maybe an RFC is in order? Regards SoWhy 10:03, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

SoWhy's suggestion is good, a lot better than the previous naming. The current title is good. A RFC would be a good idea. It is clear there is consensus to keep this list although I personally don't think it a valid encyclopedia article... But if we must keep it lets try to avoid words like "celebrity". Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:49, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


I anticipate I'll be swiftly reverted from trying to address this grossly subjective title and article, but can somebody please do something about the word "celebrity" if me MUST keep this "article". Thankyou. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

You do realize that there is a section concerning this two sections up? It would be nice if you had decided to participate there instead. Regards SoWhy 19:39, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I hadn't realised, sorry about that. But the current naming is much better. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:46, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit Request {{editsemiprotected}}

Lucas Cruikshank (aka Fred) is listed as the number one most subscribed of all time on Youtube, and I feel that this should be changed, because he is currently number two most subscribed of all time, behind Ryan Higa. Just sayin'. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Question: Do you have a source for the change? — Deontalk 08:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC)