Talk:List of best-selling music artists

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Chris Brown (79m-claim)[edit]

Harout, I think we should see his certification sales. Perhaps it could support the 79m-claim. I think this is a reliable source for the sales (http://www.tbnweekly.com/editorial/local_entertainment/concerts/content_articles/041017_leconcert-06.txt) from TBN Weekly. Need your help. Thanks Politsi (talk) 17:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Chris Brown has begun charting in 2005, meaning his 79 million claim must be supported by 73.3% certified sales or 57.9 million certified units. His certified sales currently stand at 39.8 million.--Harout72 (talk) 00:47, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks.. Now we have Nicky Minaj, Maroon 5, Green Day, and Chris Brown on going to enter the list. Hopefully we can welcoming them sooner. Politsi (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Doubt: Sales of the Denmark's certification of George Michael's Older.[edit]

Maybe I'm wrong, but the 7x platinum of George Michael's album Older means 350,000, not 140,000 since it was released in 1996. In countries like Brazil it's that way (Madonna's Ray of Light case there/ Michael Jackson's Thriller in Mexico...), and when I put that the album was certified 7x platinum in the certification table, it automatically shows 350,000, not 140,000...--88marcus (talk) 00:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Yeah I thought so too, but it turns out, IFPI Denmark has been applying its most recent certification levels since July 2012 to albums and singles regardless when the records are released. See where it says Certificeringer sker altid efter de gældende kriterier, uanset hvornår udgivelsen er udgivet.. But you're right, most certification bodies apply certification levels based on when records are released, with an exception of SNEP and RIAA. I'm not sure if Denmark began doing this in July 2012 or it's been doing this since the beginning. All I know that statement appears in July 2012, the earlier months don't have that very line. See for example June 2012. So for the time being I'll be following the rule that appears in July 2012 only for that month and onward.--Harout72 (talk) 01:12, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank You! ;)--88marcus (talk) 01:42, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Katy perry[edit]

It's really getting Annoying that her certificated sales 124 and yet she's still low in her claimed ones !!!! Can't you make something? I'm sure there are some sources to support more higher claims!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8109:B2C0:CA0:FC9C:FB26:5DE5:7C18 (talk) 17:30, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Coldplay[edit]

A Head Full of Dreams has been certified Platinum in Portugal
Source : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx-9l-dnxzImQlNzOVJBY1YtdVU --User:Esambuu (talk) 11:10, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

We don't add the certifications of Portugal. It's unnecessary to include the certifications of such a tiny music market. Plus their earlier certification levels are not known.--Harout72 (talk) 03:49, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Harout, when we can move them up to 100m club?. Their certification has reach 70m and I have a reliable source for their 100m claim. Thanks Politsi (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Let them get to 75 million and we will. Do we already have a source for 100 million mark?--Harout72 (talk) 13:07, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Of cource, and here the source (http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/14126481.Coldplay_drummer_s_journey_from_Hampshire_primary_school_to_the_Superbowl/?ref=mr&lp=14) from Southern Daily Echo. They just release a new EP, hopefully we can welcoming them to the 100m-club. Thanks Politsi (talk) 14:39, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Are we not supposed to avoid the use of tabloid newspapers? Hopefully, soon we'll have another source claiming that figure.--Harout72 (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Harout, this is the first and only reliable source so far, who's said Coldplay sold 100m-records. Of course this is a tabloid newspaper but the contain is not about gossip or entertaintment but same like another broadsheet newspaper and it is still a news organization. We can use it for temporary, and now we need your help to keep on eye on their certification sales until it adequate to support the 100m-claim. Thanks Politsi (talk) 17:35, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

They already reached 70.5 certified sales. In your methodology, the already reached 100M claim. If their 70.5 certified units are about 75% of total claimed sales. They reached 100.7M sales. User Esambuu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esambuu (talkcontribs) 13:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

There is a streaming issue for a recent artist since 2000s, that's why we should be carefully calculate their real certification sales before update their claim sales. As for coldplay, it will be safe to put them at 100m club when their certification reach at least 75m. Politsi (talk) 12:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay. But we have 1 big problem. It's Coldplay's US certification issue. Coldplay was contracted with Capitol Records until 2013. After that Coldplay transferred to Atlantic records. So Coldplay's first 5 albums and singles are all by Capitol Records. Unfortunately, they have no interest to certified their former artist sales certification. US is biggest music market. So Coldplay's first 5 albums and singles certifications are outdated. Only Ghost Stories, A Head Full of Dreams era records sales are proof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esambuu (talkcontribs) 10:10, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Harout, do you have any comment about this? Thanks. Politsi (talk) 15:29, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm not seeing major problems with Capitol's re-certifications for all albums. Parachutes (album) has last been certified 2x Platinum in December 2003. The previous Platinum was issued in January 2002, almost two years earlier. The Capitol records had another 10 years to re-certify it had it reached higher sales levels. The same with A Rush of Blood to the Head, it's last been certified 4x Platinum in October 2005. The previous 3x Platinum was issued in December 2003, almost two years earlier. Had it reached higher sales levels, Capitol had eight years to re-certify it. While the certification dates are not as far apart for X&Y and Viva La Vida, the Capitol records still had years to re-certify these albums had they also reached higher sales levels. Surely, there could be a 1-2 million units of certified sales missing here and there, but it shouldn't be anything major. Anyways, being aware of all that, the certified sales requirements are set at 90% of sales generated by music market offering their certifications based on the years the artists begin to chart. --Harout72 (talk) 02:17, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

elton john[edit]

WHY IS THE DIAMOND CERT LION KING NOT INCLUDED IN ELTON JOHN CERT TOTAL THATS A 10 MILLION INCREASE AND WHY DOES GBYR NOT GET UP GRADED TO 16 MILLION WHEN EVERY OTHER DOUBLE ALBUMS BY SUCH ARTISTS AS BILLY JOEL AND LED ZEP GET COUNTED TWICE YET GBYR DOES NOT SO THAT WOULD BE A FURTHER 16 MILLION ON ELTONS TOTAL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.190.85 (talk) 06:19, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

First, avoid typing in caps. Second, why would The Lion King (soundtrack) be included when it has 12 tracks, and only 3 tracks are performed by Elton John? And what is GBYR?--Harout72 (talk) 13:26, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 June 2017[edit]

I request to be allowed to edit this page, the content about Britney Spears and Rihanna in particular. Trisyorkli (talk) 14:00, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you. DRAGON BOOSTER 19:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 June 2017[edit]

There's no good or consistent reason why Justin Bieber's nationality is listed as United States as well as Canada. It should just be Canada. 2607:FEA8:871F:FB75:98D6:7308:C7E5:D071 (talk) 04:22, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Nationality? Where did you read anything about his nationality? The music market he's from is the US, and that's what the column Country/Market stands for. In fact, Canada shouldn't be mentioned at all as he's been residing in the US ever since he was signed in the US, which is also the country where most of his music is produced.--Harout72 (talk) 04:49, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

BIGBANG[edit]

BIGBANG sold over 140 MILLION records worldwide. why aren't they on the list ? [1]