Talk:List of energy storage projects

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Length of this list[edit]

I have a feeling this list (and it's category: Category:Energy storage projects) will become too long and/or are redundant. It should just list lists such as List of pumped-storage power stations which all fall under stored energy. The lists could also be placed in Energy storage.--NortyNort (Holla) 00:23, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree. I think the idea for this article is wonderful, and I'm really glad to see that it has been started. However, at present the order of the listings is random and awkward; but if sectionalized, even now it would be a long way down to the last subsection. Norty's idea of making this a list of lists therefore makes a lot sense to me. The collection of lists would then well organized, and each category of storage would be easier to find and use. Coastwise (talk) 06:17, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Fully agree - instead of listing the many projects, we need to createa series of wikipages similar to List of pumped-storage power stationsCite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).

</ref></ref></ref></ref>, then show those lists in a table here. If somebody has the knowledge and energy to begin creating such wikipages, please volunteer. In the meantime, does anybody object to removing the pumped-storage projects from the present page, and adding a note to the heading indicating that such projects may be found on the other page? --Spray787 (talk) 17:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately the list of pumped-storage power stations Â⟨//⟩mentioned above is quite abbreviated and uses a different format; further it is mainly a list of pumped storage powerplants that have articles in Wikipedia, whereas this list is meant to be significantly more comprehensive and to provide concise information up front. Since greater numbers of energy storage projects are coming on line, I do however agree with the earlier suggestion up top that this article be transitioned into a "list of lists".
The new proposed format would have this page show categories of energy storage, with each category of storage then listing the top 10 (or top 15 or 20) projects, rated by Total Storage Capacity (capacity x duration, expressed in MWh). Then the remaining projects of lesser capacities would be listed on separate article pages, with links provided to those pages. Thus, this page would have several lists, such as: 'List of the Top 10 Pumped Hydro Storage projects', 'List of Top 10 Battery Storage projects', etc....
In order to achieve this, a new column is needed to provide the 'Total Storage Capacity'. That's valuable info, as a site built to provide 200 MWh of power is obviously more important than one producing only 0.5 MWh, even though they may both provide the same current of 20 MW back to the grid while generating. Duration time is the obvious factor there. After adding the new column to allow for the rating, additional spillover article pages can be created, and then this article can be reformatted to reflect only the top 10 (or 15 or 20) projects in each category. Any volunteer help available? Best: HarryZilber (talk) 14:50, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I agree that the list is too long as it stands. Couldn't it be split in three, into operational, under construction, and proposed projects, like most of our energy lists? Shouldn't the most notable projects be mentioned in the lead, as we normally do. I think this would help to orientate the reader. Johnfos (talk) 10:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
The most notable would be a mine field, each of the tech used attracts users who will find their tech most notable, better to do the most recent project on top. a operational, under construction, and proposed projects split into 3 lists sounds good. Mion (talk) 06:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
As a start on identifying most notable have now included those projects with a separate article in the lead. Please revise and expand as necessary. Thanks. Johnfos (talk) 08:53, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

A simpler division would be into U.S. and RestOfWorld lists. I count 113 U.S. projects and 68 for the RoW. RoW could be listed in country order. Cptmrmcmillan (talk) 13:29, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Suggestions on storage categories[edit]

I think the present category of "Cool Water, Hot Water or Ice Thermal Storage" should be split into two like these: (1) "Thermal Energy Storage: short-term (heat or cold)" and (2) "Thermal Energy Storage: inter-Seasonal (heat or cold)". At present, the listed thermal storages that are listed are all short-term storage. There also are many existing seasonal thermal energy storages (STES, actually inter-seasonal despite that common term for them) globally. Short-term storages are primarily used for peak-shaving, while STES is used for gathering waste or natural energy when it is available and holding it for use when needed in a different season. As an example, see Drake Landing Solar Community (in Alberta) for which solar heat provides 97% of the annual space heating as enabled by STES. A sample list (Germany only, six years old now) is on page 3 here. No time to add to the list in the article now, but I can some other time. Coastwise (talk) 07:20, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Coastwise, the section on 'Common types was meant to reflect unique categories of energy storage. I've revised the organization of that section by adding a Further Information hatnote that directs readers to the STES article for further information. Best: HarryZilber (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong.[edit]

'Grid Storage' should be removed from the list of common types of storage. 70.171.44.124 (talk) 18:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)BGriffin

Hi BGriffin, your point was noted, and the item has been moved to the top as a hatnote. Best: HarryZilber (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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