Talk:List of female astronauts

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Images[edit]

Can anyone find a usable image of Helen Sharman? RandomCritic (talk) 21:01, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Missing Astronaut[edit]

Christa McAuliffe isn't listed; she died in the Challenger disaster in 1986. She was going to be the first educator astronaut and trained with Barbara Morgan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.165.142.97 (talk) 20:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

She's not listed in the "Astronauts with completed or scheduled spaceflights" section, but in the following one. However, this is wrong. Her flight, unfortunately, didn't complete. Still, it was scheduled, and it started, so I am adding her in the correct section.
--Lou Crazy (talk) 13:19, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Why is McAuliffe number 11? She never flew in space, as the other did. The "scheduled flights" in the headline refers to women with upcoming (future) space flights. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 16:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
The headline doesn't say "future". Unlike people scheduled for a future flight which might be cancelled, her flight started, and she shared the fate of other crew members. In other astronaut lists, you will also find people astronaut Clifton Williams, who never went to space. I will strongly oppose any proposal to remove Williams from any such list, and for the same reason I think Christa McAuliffe should be here.
--Lou Crazy (talk) 11:21, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
You're missing the point. Read this article's introduction:

”The following is a list of women who have travelled into space, sorted by date of first flight”

. Since McAuliffe never travelled into space, she could never be number eleven. Clifton Williams would have been the 44th man in space (as his successor Alan Bean became), if he hadn't died. You will not se a list of space travellers on Wikipedia with astronaut Williams as number 44, the same goes for McAuliffe. No one questions McAuliffe's inclusion in this article, just her number 11 status. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 19:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

OK Lou Crazy, since you haven't replied, I must assume that you concur. McAuliffe is off the chronological list. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 20:01, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I would agree McAuliffe should be on the secondary list. As you pointed out, her flight WAS launched...not her fault that it didn't make it above the Karman Line and into space. However, it can be argued that she reached the "edge of space," as the crew cabin peaked around 70,000 feet...5-7,000 feet above Armstrong's Limit (where you can no longer survive without a pressure suit). I am glad she's mentioned in an "other" list, even if she did not make it into actual space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.118.247.231 (talk) 16:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Removing Lisa Nowak comment[edit]

I feel strongly that mention of Nowak's personal actions should be outside the scope of this top table (i.e. the table for women who achieved space flight). Even the fact that Nowak was ultimately let go by NASA because of her behavior doesn't seem relevant here; there are a number of other astronauts on this page who similarly only flew once, or who never saw flight time, before leaving NASA's astronaut program for one reason or another, and those reasons are not all given. The "comment" section of the top table should really be limited to special accomplishments, "firsts," or other significant events related directly to specific space flight activities. As is, Nowak's "comment" is the only one that falls outside of this scope. Girona7 (talk) 03:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Yelena Dobrokvashina[edit]

Some Yelena Dobrokvashina info, if anyone wants to write an article... http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Near-cosmonaut_outlines_why_few_women_in_Russias_space_program_999.html -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 20:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Yvonne Cagle[edit]

How come she's listed as retired? According to NASA's web page[1], she's one of the management astronauts. I get why she's not on the chronological list, but all the sources I've looked at don't list her as retired. Before I made any changes, I wanted to ask around here to see if someone had a reasoning for this. Spacegeek2015 (talk) 16:39, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be "female astronauts and cosmonauts?[edit]

I don't have a lot of experience in Wikipedia (mostly I edit grammar), so I don't know the procedure for requesting a title change. But shouldn't the title of this page be "List of female astronauts and cosmonauts? Especially given that the first two females in space were Russian? (I get it that the word "astronaut" is first, since there have been only 4 female cosmonauts and over forty female astronauts from the U.S. alone.)

Sorting[edit]

I preferred the chronological sorting over the alphabetical one. Of course it would be helpful to use some tool (like Template:Sortname?) to make the table sortable for last name, but I think the chronological order should be standard. As of today, the list offers no way to find out who was first, second, third, .... etc. Any other opinions? --User:Steffen Löwe Gera (talk) 22:42, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Steffen Löwe Gera, the list should be chronological. Should be easy to do given some time, and since nobody has objected I think it's fine to just go ahead and do it. Are you offering to do the sorting (I hope), or I'll have to get to it at some point. Thanks for bringing the change forward. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:17, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
If the date of their first trip were added to the table as a separate column (rather than being included as parenthetical date in the "Missions" column), the table could be sorted at will by the reader. 173.15.229.22 (talk) 00:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)