Talk:List of island countries

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"Notable region"[edit]

Just what is a "notable region". Any objective criteria? Or is it simply notable if a good few Westerners might expect to see it listed? How about we just apply objective criteria. 84.203.72.55 (talk) 21:42, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Basically it lists dependencies and areas which have had international agreements on sovereignty (svalbard and Aland). Chipmunkdavis (talk) 00:56, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

United Kingdom and Ireland?[edit]

don't they share a border? I.e. Ireland and Northern Ireland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.117.47.251 (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

They do. The border is however, on an island. CMD (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Hawaii, Réunion, Mayotte, Martinique, and Guadaloupe[edit]

I've added these to the "Dependencies and other notable regions" section. I'm not sure why they would be excluded. Hawaii is a state in the United States, and the other four are Departments of France, and as such are fully integrated parts of their countries; but, and this why I included them, are thousands of kilometers away from their homeland.

Islands that are very close to the parent colony, with no other special status, should not, I think, be included in the list. Nor would I include administrative divisions of Island Countries already listed. But if an island province (to use a generic term for a first level division of a country) is far enough away from the homeland, it seems to me it should be included.

I've also added a column for geographic location for both tables.

Listmeister (talk) 17:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

The title of the article is pretty clear, so it makes no sense to include subdivisions or dependencies. The only exception that might make sense is French Polynesia, which is an "overseas country" of France, the various Netherlands Antilles or Greenland. 212.113.145.253 (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
There's nothing but semantics that link French Polynesia and Aruba closer to each other than they are to many of the other entries on this list. Dependencies etc. are often listed in lists of countries. CMD (talk) 01:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Which guidelines does that come from? Or is it just an offhand observation? 212.113.145.253 (talk) 01:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
There is no guideline for countries, bar the general ones about following external sources. Dependencies are often included in lists of countries in external sources. Country is an inherently ambiguous word. CMD (talk) 01:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
True it's an ambiguous word but as far as I can see Wikipedia articles that include dependencies seem to have titles which reflect this such as List of sovereign states and dependent territories by population density, whereas List of sovereign states steers clear. 212.113.145.253 (talk) 03:55, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Those articles used to be called lists of countries. They were changed after many editors demanded the inclusion of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland into the lists. CMD (talk) 09:11, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved no support Tiggerjay (talk) 06:04, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


List of island countriesList of island countries and dependent territories – The list has a burgeoning subsection devoted to "Dependencies and other notable regions", so the article title should reflect this. Equally good would be "List of island sovereign states and dependent territories". 212.113.145.253 (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

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  • Oppose. Not needed. Apteva (talk) 23:22, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose - there is indeed a significant section listing territories but rather than rename I think it should be hived off toform a new article, perhaps List of island dependencies. Green Giant (talk) 00:45, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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The Status of Malaysia[edit]

Looking at the list and map of island nations, the absence of Malaysia puzzled me. The main page defines an island country as one whose primary territory consists of one or more islands or parts of islands, but what does that mean for Malaysia, which has considerable land both on mainland Asia and the island of Borneo? It seems that the rule that primary territory of a country is that which contains its capital city is in play, meaning that because Kuala Lumpur is not located on an island, Malaysia cannot be considered an island country. If this was the case, then, Equatorial city would have to also be considered an island country because Malabo is located on Bioko island, but it too does not appear on the map. In my opinion, the fact that the majority of the country is of an island and not peninsular is enough to deem Malaysia an island country. I also realize that population may also be a factor in determining the threshold, but if it is not, I believe that the status of Malaysia should be given further consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr M Mashup (talkcontribs) 03:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Which of the current countries listed is not entirely on islands? CMD (talk) 15:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Northern Cyprous, Niue and Cook Islands[edit]

Northern Cyprus is not neither an Island country nor a sovereign state therefore it should not be listed in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.184.200.26 (talk) 10:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I moved these entries from the sovereign states section to the notable regions. Northern Cyprous do not have the capacity to enter into relations with other sovereign states and Niue and Cook Islands are subject of New Zealand so none of them is considered Sovereign state according to the definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.215.212 (talkcontribs)

Kingdom of Denmark[edit]

I am curious as to why the Kingdom of Denmark is not listed as an island state? Does anybody know?

Both Greenland and the Faroe Islands are listed on the "notable regions" list and they form a quite large part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Denmark proper even qualifies as an island state on its own, according to the definition given in the article. Only Jutland connects with continental Europe, and then even the northern part of Jutland is an island in itself (see North Jutlandic Island).

RhinoMind (talk) 13:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Australia[edit]

Australia is located on a continent. Who considers it an island, he or she knows nothing about geography or simply are illiterate. In similar case one may call any continent as an island. About border, the island of Hispanola which raises no doubts about its categorization as an island has a land border and on its territory are situated two counties. Similar case is with Cyprus. In the past the island of Sakhalin was under jurisdiction of two different and completely culturally unrelated countries. So, the statement about whether Australia has border or not does not necessarily makes the continent an island. If Canada and Mexico would join the United States, the North American continent will not be an island. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:33, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

UK - one main island?[edit]

Surely the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is on two main islands, not one? After all, Trinidad and Tobago is listed as having 2 main islands.--94.3.112.109 (talk) 03:20, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Taiwan[edit]

Perhaps a link to the controversial political status of Taiwan? Alexlur (talk) 22:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


According to Wikipeda's definition of a Sovereign state, namely "having a permanent population, defined territory, one government, and the capacity to enter into relations with other sovereign states", Taiwan is a sovereign state. (Despite it technically claiming the territory of the PRC and Mongolia, Taiwan's actual governed territory has been stable since 1949, and so can really be said to be "defined".) Therefore I am putting it back in the list of sovereign states. If anyone wishes to revert the change again, please explain why. RitKill (talk) 22:45, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Whether the ROC is a sovereign state or not is a controversial topic because its territories are debatable. Also, it is already mentioned in section De facto island–bound states with limited recognition so it should not be mentioned again in another section. --Matt Smith (talk) 01:14, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Denmark, and colours[edit]

Hello,

I agree with the above comment by @RhinoMind:, Denmark is probably worth mentioning. Island country is defined as "a country whose primary territory consists of one or more islands".

  • If you consider Faroe and Greenland as separate countries from Denmark proper, then approx. 59% of the latter's population and 42% of its area are on islands, including the North Jutlandic Island and Zealand, where capital city Copenhagen is located.
  • If you consider the sovereign country of the Kingdom of Denmark, which includes Faroe and Greenland, then 60% of its population and 98.9% of its area are on islands.

One could also argue about Equitorial Guinea, whose capital city Malabo is on an island, but where islands cover just 28% of the population and 7% of the area.

Also, the map commons:File:Island nations.svg pictures coutries "with land borders shaded green, and those without shaded dark blue". However, Cuba (which has a border in Guantanamo) is shaded blue. It could be shaded in green. Also, Japan theoretically still has a land border in Sakhalin in the absence of a peace treaty with Russia settling post-WWII land disputes. Place Clichy (talk) 17:13, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Guantanamo is part of Cuba, leased by the US government. Japan lays no claim on Sakhalin. CMD (talk) 01:06, 15 December 2016 (UTC)