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May 2015[edit]

NLA Insurgency in Macedonia[edit]

A faction from the NLA has been engaged in a very low level insurgency in macedonia for the past several years. While there had been a few attack here and there there had not been any deaths recently. However, today so far there are at least 5 deaths reported after Macedonian police engaged an NLA group in Kumanovo. Something to keep an eye on.XavierGreen (talk) 01:23, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Adding it to the watch list on the project page.GreyShark (dibra) 11:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I added it to the list about half a year ago, when the NLA fired rockets at the parliament but my edits got reverted.It is indeed very low level.--Catlemur (talk) 13:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
There is actually a faction of Macedonian editors that consistantly revert anything that suggests their is an ongoing insurgency, even though there have been at least 3 attacks in the past 6 months.XavierGreen (talk) 23:51, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Katanga[edit]

The description of the Katanga insurgency describes a conflict involving rebel groups and separatist groups, but it doesn't mention pygmies. Within the past 5 months, over 200 people have been killed during a conflict between pygmies. Would this pertain to the Katanga insurgency, or would it fall under a different conflict? I obtained this information from Radio okapi.

http://radiookapi.net/emissions-2/dialogue-entre-congolais/2015/05/20/nord-katanga-plus-de-200-morts-dans-le-conflit-entre-pygmees-bantus/

YDN8 (talk) 21:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Indeed it should be watched closely. Official toll is not so high. http://www.romandie.com/news/RDC-plusieurs-morts-dans-une-nouvelle-flambee-de-violences/591797.rom and ACLED gives a figure of deaths of 28 in 2014 and 66 in 2015. Wykx (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Certainly a different conflict, having nothing to do with Mai Mai style rebels.--Catlemur (talk) 22:09, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Israeli-Hezbollah conflict is ongoing.[edit]

In 2015, there were 2-3 inceidents between Israel and Hezbollah (depends who you ask) and there were claims that Israel also attack shipment of weapons to Hezbollah in Syria. Altough there is a De-Jure ceace-fire, people died... Shouldn't it be added to the fewer then 100 section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolter21 (talkcontribs) 11:26, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

So, whom did you ask?GreyShark (dibra) 11:36, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
It might actually have something to do with the Syrian Civil War spillover in Lebanon though. Jackninja5 (talk) 11:26, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
This conflict acaully started in 1982, long before the Syrian Civil War.--Bolter21 (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I would actually consider putting it under Iran-Israel proxy conflict.GreyShark (dibra) 18:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I disagree. Iran-Israel proxy conflict is not like the cold war. It is mainly things that happen under the surfece. Israel's aiding to FSA and Kurds in Iran is something that is not certain while how much does Iran support Hamas and Hezbollah is also not known. Some will say the the second Lebanese war is part of the Israeli-Iran proxy war while some will say that the entire Syrian Civil war is also part of it.. I will say that if we put the Israeli-Palestinian conflict seperated then the Israeli-Arab conflict so the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict also need to have a name for it's own. For overall casulties breakdown, I can only say that the Second Lebanese war and every incident since then is a resault directly of the conflict while all before are not certain. Maybe another name such as Clashes between Israel and Hezbollah after 2006 Lebanon War — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolter21 (talkcontribs) 20:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
In any case, most of the casualties you are referring to are already listed under Hezbollah involvement in the Syrian Civil War, which is part of the statistics of the Syrian Civil War. The few incidents allegedly involving Hezbollah against Israeli border patrols were not confirmed by both parties, so i'm not sure we can list it as genuine Israel-Hezbollah fatalities.GreyShark (dibra) 21:27, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Alright, I agree with you. Should we delete this section?--Bolter21 (talk) 10:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
What do you mean "delete this section"? here on the talk page?GreyShark (dibra) 18:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Does this discussion continue existing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolter21 (talkcontribs) 18:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Of course continues existing - the talk page discussion is never deleted, unless something very rude is written.GreyShark (dibra) 16:12, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

June 2015[edit]

ISIL-Hamas conflict in Gaza[edit]

Looks like we have a new flash point - the Ansar al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi Ghaza (ISIL in Gaza) is engaging Hamas in sporadic clashes. One person was killed so far, thus putting on the watch list.GreyShark (dibra) 21:25, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

A better name will be Gazan Civil Conflict and already two important people were killed. ISIL wing's leader Yunis Hunnar and Hamas's high ranked leader Saber Siam. More deaths may have took place but I havent researched about it too much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolter21 (talkcontribs) 17:22, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Iraq conflict time span[edit]

Editors decided to split the Iraqi post US-withdrawal conflict from 2011 to two phases: 2011-2013 and 2014-present. It is however also certain that this is basically the same sectarian conflict as the 2003-2011 Iraq war, so i propose to list the total casualties from at least 2003, like we do with the Afghanistan conflict.GreyShark (dibra) 10:02, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I totally agree Wykx (talk) 10:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree: the main actors are the same since 2003. In the cumulative fatalities count, we should probably list excess deaths besides the violent deaths documented by IBC, even though estimates vary greatly according to different studies. Nykterinos (talk) 21:49, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Kurdish separatism in Iran[edit]

It seems that with the third incident within several months the Kurdish PDKI returns to an armed struggle. I herewith change from Iran-PJAK conflict to the Kurdish separatism in Iran, to include both the rebellion of PJAK and the resumed insurgency of PDKI. Also updated the death tolls for 2014-2015 to include PDKI related deaths.GreyShark (dibra) 14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Darfur and South Kordofan[edit]

Is it possible to condense the War in Darfur and the South Kordofan Conflict into one conflict since they share many of the same combatants (Rapid Support Force, Sudanese Armed Forces, Justice and Equality Movement, ect). YDN8 (talk) 20:08, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Well, for the Sudanese Armed Forces and JEM, this is because those two are nation-wide represented but the conflicts are different: in Darfur, this is basically a conflict with the non-Arab populations while in South Kordofan (where independance referendum should be held as in South Sudan but has been postponed) it is linked with the South Sudan populations/ethnic concerns. Both are intertwined but still with distinct leading rebel forces. Wykx (talk) 20:22, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

El Salvador[edit]

I have added the war with gangs in El Salvador since the truce is over in November 2014 and that the homicide rate has sharply risen, like in Mexico. Wykx (talk) 20:24, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

I tend to agree to include this conflict as suggested. My reasoning is that we can identify clear belligerents, similar to the Mexican Drug War. In Salvadorian case, those are the Mara Salvatrucha, Calle 18, Sombra Negra and Rebels 13. We should however define the exact conflict between those gangs (perhaps El-Salvador drug conflict) and separate it from the general crime article, because we shouldn't count minor crime events unrelated with the gang war.GreyShark (dibra) 06:40, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
That's why in the figures displayed for the article, I proposed at least to apply the same 45% rate of crime-related as in Mexico unless we find more accurate data for this rate (maybe by comparing the average crime-level before escalation and after?).Wykx (talk) 06:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Unless the army is actually deployed and is actively combating the gangs I believe that the gang violence does not constitute a war.--Catlemur (talk) 21:35, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

A good question is whether to include such violence in this list, however the general guideline has been to list events with 2 or more armed participating bodies (whether states or organizations). In the Mexican case this is indeed including Army participation, but on the other hand - for example the Chiapas conflict has mostly been waging between pro-Government and anti-Government militias.GreyShark (dibra) 06:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Two articles are quite insightful for this conflict from:
-The Guardian which states that "60% of the victims were criminals killed by rival gangs or by colleagues in the same criminal group. (...) a deliberate attempt by criminal organizations to ramp up violence as a means of pressure".
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/03/el-salvador-homicide-killings-gangs
- Insightcrime which states in the first article how gangs are now threatening of direct 'war' against the governement and the second one where government states he is 'at war' with gangs.
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/el-salvador-gangs-issue-threats-in-video
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/el-salvador-police-at-war-with-gangs
Now this is quite in one-way or indirect but I would say the result is the same, such level of violence is unprecedented and much much higher than many other conflicts listed here between two parties and even if gangs tactic to reply to the government's strategy is not of direct confrontation still. Wykx (talk) 06:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

There is gang related violence everywhere, it so happens that the homicide rates in Salvador are really high. The way I see it there must be some kind of ideological motivation for the violence or military involvement for it to constitute a war.Some factions in Chiapas had the goal of creating leftist communes, while Mexican drug gangs are directly engaging the military, unlike them Salvador seems to be an arena for a turf war between gangs.At this point I am even questioning the addition of Bangladesh, since the is merely expressed in riots and acts of limited urban terrorism.--Catlemur (talk) 11:14, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

El Salvador's street gangs have reportedly carried out over 250 attacks on security forces so far this year. Isn't it military? (As for Bangladesh, only attacks against/by islamists rebels claiming separeted Islamic state applying are included in the figures.) Wykx (talk) 17:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/250-gang-attacks-on-el-salvador-security-forces-in-2015
The most basic criteria has always been that there must be armed conflict between two organized belligerents, if the military is fighting the cartels and the cartels have organized armed forces (like the mexican cartels do), than it would qualify for the list. If there is no organized resistance from the cartels or the military is not actively fighting them, than i would say it does not belong on the list. Note that a military does not need to be involved at all for a conflict to be listed here, merely two organized armed belligerents (IE two private militias fighting a sustained campaign against one another would qualify).XavierGreen (talk) 18:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Good point - based on such assessment the El Salvador conflict doesnt belong here, unless we can identify clear belligerent organizations/gangs. There are indeed major gangs, but the question is how many deaths are attributed to their organized insurgency, rather than general high level of crime.GreyShark (dibra) 16:26, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment - removed al-Salvador, until there is a consensus.GreyShark (dibra) 19:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Interesting, fresh analysis showed that rise in homicides are not completely linked to gangs. So we keep it removed for the time being. http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/report-few-el-salvador-homicides-involve-gang-members

Situation is still developing http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/el-salvador-murder-rate-record-high-150727122139968.html amid accusations from each side. Keep an eye at it. Wykx (talk) 13:36, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Renamo resurging[edit]

Obviously, we see another cease fire "peace" agreement failing with RENAMO launching a full-scale attack on Mazimbuquan troops on June 23rd - 45 killed. It emphasizes the importance of the standing rule to continue listing conflicts (with fatalities in current or past calendar year) despite seeming "peace agreements" or "cease-fires".GreyShark (dibra) 19:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Sectarianism in Pakistan[edit]

I'm not sure when it was added, but i must ask - is it related with the War in North-West Pakistan, or we are talking on additional fatalities?GreyShark (dibra) 19:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

It is additional fatalities, and Shias are currently main targets. History of the conflict is explained on this page http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/backgrounders/index.html Wykx (talk) 20:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I see, indeed Sectarianism in Pakistan is the best fit page. Maybe we should rename it to Sectarian conflict in Pakistan?GreyShark (dibra) 14:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Social violence in Nigeria[edit]

Why did you removed it? Wykx (talk) 20:00, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

What does Social violence in Nigeria mean? I am aware of tribal / ethnic warfare sporadically occuring between various groups, but perhaps you might explain what exactly "social violence in nigeria" refers to?XavierGreen (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
As said by Xavier - what is "social violence in Nigeria"?GreyShark (dibra) 20:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
This is really well explained in the document which was referenced http://www.connectsaisafrica.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Nigeria-Social-Violence-Project-Summary_v126.pdf. States affected in Nigeria are not the same as the ones where Boko Haram is acting. Mainly it groups two types of conflicts:
'Communal fatalities' are those attributed to actors primarily divided by cultural, ethnic, or religious communities and identities.
'Herder-Farmer fatalities' are those attributed to herders (in particular the Fulani or Hausa) or farmers (in particular the Tiv or Tarok), typically involving disputes over land and/or cattle. Maybe the title 'Social violence' is too large and could be refined. Wykx (talk) 20:26, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I think the key here is to ask whether or not the violence in question is an organized conflict, for example I think the organzied raiding by the Fulani's and counterattacks by their opponents definitely would qualify for inclusion. However isolated incidents of unorganized ethnic or cultural violence would not qualify. To merely put down "social violance in nigeria" is way too overbroad, as it would theoretically include unorganized criminal activity that is not of a paramilitary nature and thus not within the scope of this page.XavierGreen (talk) 21:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
In order to give you an idea of the communities clashes, this year this was particularly the case of Ologba against Egba (clashes that started back in 2008). http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/05/stop-this-massacre-agatu-community-begs-nsa-ig/ Depending on years it goes to other communities, on recurring basis considering the high death toll. In know that situation in Nigeria is very complex but it should not undermined the reality of those conflicts. Wykx (talk) 21:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Then what should we do for this one? What would be an appropriate title? Wykx (talk) 09:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
perhaps most of the intercommunal violence fits into Christian-Muslim tensions? If so, then we can simply use the Religious violence in Nigeria scope (violence since at least 1953).GreyShark (dibra) 10:42, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I propose 'Communal violence in Nigeria' which represents in 2015 683 fatalities including 496 related to the Fulani Militias with other ethnies because it is not really religious violence (this one has mostly deviated to Boko Haram conflict now). Wykx (talk) 22:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I agree with "Communal violence in Nigeria" or "Communal conflicts in Nigeria", similar to Sudanese nomadic conflicts. UCDP classifies these conflicts as non-state conflicts between various organized groups (mostly between ethnic militias, and sometimes between Christian and Muslim communities). Nykterinos (talk) 23:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
You can see this UCDP backgrounder about "communal conflicts in Nigeria". They include religious, ethnic and pastoralist-farmer conflicts. In the Niger Delta region, they partly overlap with the conflict in the Niger Delta, which we list separately. Nykterinos (talk) 10:02, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Indeed - what about the conflict in the Niger Delta? How much does it overlap? (it is already listed)GreyShark (dibra) 14:55, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I don’t know for sure, but, to avoid double counting, we can exclude communal conflicts in the Niger Delta region from the “communal conflicts in Nigeria” entry. According to ACLED, in 2014 most ethnic conflicts took place in the Benue, Nassarawa, Zamfara, Kaduna, Taraba and Plateau North-Central states (1,737 fatalities) and mainly involved Fulani ethnic militias. Only 14 fatalities from ethnic militias were recorded in the Niger Delta states. Nykterinos (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
In my opinion, first there has to be a sourced topic for an article - maybe Fulani conflict, which would help to make something structural and differentiated from Islamist conflict in the North and trafficking conflict in the Niger Delta.GreyShark (dibra) 21:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
It would be great, we shall create it.Wykx (talk) 21:36, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
So, what do we do? Would you like to start it?GreyShark (dibra) 07:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I could try it but not before September because I won't have easy access. Wykx (talk) 18:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

July 2015[edit]

Socialist/Communist Insurgency in Turkey[edit]

I saw that yesterday july 24th a DHKP/c militant was killed by Turkish police and also that the conflict is not listed here, if all the deaths from the various different socialist/maoist/communist turkish groups are added together do they meet the criteria for the page?XavierGreen (talk) 16:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

DHKP attacks have killed several people in recent years, but I'm not sure the overall death toll has surpassed 100, maybe someone else can help compile a list of attacks? Skycycle (talk) 12:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I've already done it - DHKP/c accounts for about 30+ fatalities. I'm however pretty sure that combining them with maoist groups' fatalities is not correct, since DHKP/c is not Maoist and those other groups are dormant for many years. See also Talk:Maoist_insurgency_in_Turkey#Merge.GreyShark (dibra) 07:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I know of at least 1 TiKKo attack that occurred last year, though it seems like their organization has been severely drained of manpower and likely has only a couple dozen militants left at most. The other maoist belligerents i have seen virtually nothing about.XavierGreen (talk) 15:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
How many people died in the TiKKO insurgency?GreyShark (dibra) 16:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
The wiki article for DHKP lists at least 23 casualties since 2001, about half of them members of the group. I support a merger with the TIKKO article into one unified 'Marxist insurgency' or something of the sort. Doubt that both of them combined account for more than 50 at this point, but in due time the article might be included. Never hurts to have it already :) Skycycle (talk) 21:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm not very familiar with the Marxist / Communist / Maoist groups in Turkey, but my feeling is that we need a good source to classify them in order to merge TiKKo with DHCP. Nevertheless, seems like both ways, the insurgencies are too insignificant at this point. Maybe DHCP may "reach the hall of fame" in 5 years at current rate of terrorist acts.GreyShark (dibra) 12:51, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Dahalo in Madagascar[edit]

Should there be a conflict involving the dahalo? Though they are bandits, ACLED refers to them as "Dahalo Milita". According to ACLED, there have been 81 casualties this year during conflict involving the dahalo. I calculated 440 casualties in 2014 with the CCAPS conflict dashboard. ( http://ccaps.aiddata.org/conflict?md5Filters=36b1d8921b1657377b0b7b571ba91b67 ) YDN8 (talk) 03:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

It seems more some organized zebus thieves with villagers that rely on the military/police forces to protect them. I wouldn't consider it an organized conflict with incompatible claims from two parties involved. Wykx (talk) 08:25, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Isn't this have any relation to the Turkish-PKK conflict?--Bolter21 (talk) 23:08, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015[edit]

Turkey against PKK in Iraq[edit]

Shouldn't Turkey's airstrikes against PKK in Iraq be considered part of the Turkey-PKK conflict, instead of the Iraq war? The relevant Wikipedia article, Operation Martyr Yalçın, is classified as part of the Turkey-PKK conflict. Anyway, the 2015 Iraq war death toll includes only civilian fatalities for now, so PKK fatalities should be added either there or in the Turkey-PKK conflict death toll. Nykterinos (talk) 12:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

You're right, that would be ideal. It implies to be aware not to count two times the victims. It would be also ideal to add non-civilian casulaties in the Iraq War count as well. But we remark also in the case of PKK fatalities that they have been counted as civilian fatalities. Wykx (talk) 13:05, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
The 2015 death toll for the Turkey-PKK conflict is still at 29, can someone compile a few sources and update it if they have a chance? I will do it as soon as I have some time, just noting that there has ben a string of attacks in the last few weeks that have killed a few dozen security forces, civilians and PKK members across Southeastern Turkey. Four officers were killed in a roadside bombing just a few hours ago, once more in Sirnak Province. Not sure how we can find ALL the events, but there was roughly an attack per day since the 'ceasefire' broke down. Skycycle (talk) 11:54, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Edit: yet another attack today alone - 1 soldier killed, 7 injured after their helicopter was shot at. ( Link) Skycycle (talk) 12:02, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
More than 400 killed in past two weeks according to Turkish sources - moving it to mid-intensity conflicts.GreyShark (dibra) 07:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, this mean Turkey should go from yellow to orange in the next map update as well. Skycycle (talk) 18:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
The source says “Turkish airstrikes have killed at least 390 PKK militants in northern Iraq”; so Turkey should remain yellow for now, because, according to the rule followed so far, when a conflict takes place across different countries, each country is coloured according to the number of fatalities taking place within it (see e.g. Nigeria-Cameroon-Niger-Chad), and in Turkey there have been less than 100 fatalities due to the Turkey-PKK conflict. Nykterinos (talk) 09:28, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
That is an interesting point you are raising. The practice has so far been to list countries as epicenters of certain conflicts, though indeed some conflicts occurred over two or more countries - Boko Haram insurgency, Syrian Civil War and now Turkey-PKK conflict. Overall, the map should reflect the table, but the fact is that conflicts are not necessarily bound to borders, thus perhaps we need to discuss this case in a broader way - how should it be shown on the map.GreyShark (dibra) 18:08, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Here is how I see it: the map represents the locations listed in the table, and the guidelines say that “Location refers to the state(s) where the main violence takes place”. So, if a conflict takes place across different states (=has multiple locations), those states should be coloured, each according to the amount of violence taking place within it. In the same way, if different conflicts take place within the same state (like in DRC), that state should be coloured according to the sum of the fatalities of the different conflicts. Nykterinos (talk) 19:50, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Well i think the main issue to be considered is what data we have available. Right now we basically only keep running tallies of how many people of have been killed in each conflict, rather than how many people in each state have been killed by conflict. Do we even have sufficent data to determine how many people have died in each country due to conflict? Some conflicts like the Insurgency in the Magreb we have practically no casualty data on for the entire conflict let alone each individual state (ie: Tunisia, Algeria, Mali, Niger, ect).XavierGreen (talk) 15:18, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
For the whole Africa, we have continuously updated data for each country by ACLED. For the Boko Haram insurgency and the Maghreb insurgency, you find the precise numbers for each State specified in the footnotes. Nykterinos (talk) 22:51, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

South-North Korea[edit]

The conflict seems to have new victims. Could you check and re-add it if necessary? Wykx (talk) 18:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, but according to this, there are no fatalities.GreyShark (dibra) 13:54, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
ok thanks! Wykx (talk) 18:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
There were also two brief firefights last year, but they produced no reported casualties.XavierGreen (talk) 17:09, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Moro conflict in Sabah[edit]

Was added with no prior discussion by user:Shhhhwwww!!. Can somebody check the sources and the context? Is is substantially different from the Moro insurgency in the Philippines?GreyShark (dibra) 20:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Abu Sayaf occasionally will launch attacks in Sabah, mostly related to kidnapping attempts. But these are a direct part of the insurgency in the Philippines. I am unaware of any ongoing insurgency in Sabah since the Sultanate of Sulu Kiramist factions invasion was repelled in 2013. There was one shootout that killed two militants on October 30, 2014, but its unclear to me if they were from the same faction or indeed any organized faction at all. I would say the evidence is currently against inclusion given that there seems to be no organized conflict ongoing.XavierGreen (talk) 23:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Burundi conflict[edit]

Seems that 2015 Burundi unrest is eligible for inclusion - casualties top 100 (77 killed by June 19, 3 killed on June 28th, 6 killed on early July, 3 political murders on July 24th 1 political murder - Aug 2nd, 5 gov-t officials killed Aug 5th, 1 political murder - Aug 15th, 4 killed in clashes Aug 19th) and armed clashes with the opposition occur every once and a while. Adding it.GreyShark (dibra) 13:56, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Is the armed opposition to the state organized? Or is it merely mob violance / independent actors or one way conflict with the state suppressing unarmed protesters violently.XavierGreen (talk) 21:18, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, certainly organized. I cannot prove that all the political killings were indeed politically-motivated and not crime, but the general perception is that there is Pierre Nkurunziza's government and there is opposition, with NFL likely being involved. To prove my point, i want to show this article Uganda's president starts mediation role in Burundi unrest and claim logically that mediation is not possible if there are no organized opponents (quote "Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni met with representatives of the Burundi government and opposition leaders in the nation's capital, Bujumbura, late Tuesday. The talks are being attended by Agathon Rwasa, the most prominent opposition leader in Burundi.").GreyShark (dibra) 16:42, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Turkey-PKK conflict might become a major conflict[edit]

Recent report says the number of killed in the conflict tops 959 since July 20, with 9 additional victims from a more quiet phase between January to mid-July. With such rate, we will see this conflict becoming a major one (above 1000 killed per year) within days.GreyShark (dibra) 15:26, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've coloured Turkey orange now that the conflict has crossed the 100 fatalities threshold in south-eastern Turkey. Nykterinos (talk) 11:17, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
The conflict has just surpassed 1000 fatalities: 918 Kurds, 60 Turks, another 15 civilians (Turks & Kurds) + 7 tonight; 9 more had been killed prior to July escalation.GreyShark (dibra) 04:31, 28 August 2015 (UTC)