Talk:List of ongoing armed conflicts

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June 2016[edit]

Turkey's colour on the map[edit]

I’ve coloured Turkey red on the map. According to the Turkish government ([1]), around 2,500 PKK rebels were killed in south-eastern Turkey since July 2015, which means that more than 1,000 people were killed in Turkey in the current or past year, or in both. According to this source, more than 1,000 people died in south-eastern Turkey in just the last three months. Nykterinos (talk) 16:25, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, definitely a war by now.GreyShark (dibra) 21:40, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

ISIL attacks in the West[edit]

It seems that by now ISIL operative and copy-cut attacks have become a campaign of terror in the West. I'm not sure whether we should make separate articles for each country (ISIL attack in France, ISIL attacks in US, etc.), or a single article ISIL terrorism in the West or similar. If we go for the latter - it is certainly valid for inclusion in the list, with couple of hundreds killed by now.GreyShark (dibra) 10:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Nah, such article will be a blog-like news feed.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 14:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I think there's no need for more "terrorism" articles, as all relevant material is already included in articles on terrorism by country (Terrorism in France, Terrorism in the United States, etc.). An article on "ISIL terrorism in the West" would be problematic also because there's no clear-cut definition of "the West" (would Turkey and Russia be included?), and may be original research (the link with ISIL may be debatable, too, as in Orlando). Finally, I would be wary of including articles on "terrorism" in this list of armed conflicts: we generally include terrorist attacks when they are part of a wider armed conflict fought between armed groups, not if they are isolated attacks. Nykterinos (talk) 17:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, there is certainly a war against ISIS in the mid-east and north africa, with several western counties participating. Technically, ISIL operations in the West are the Spillover of the Syrian Civil War with such logic.GreyShark (dibra) 21:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I think we should all put this aside and make articles about happy things insteed of wars and death. Have a good day. Now seriously I don't think we need an article for every presence of a terror cell, with direct or indirect relation to ISIS. There won't be much to write in that article. All the information can be found in List of terrorist incidents linked to ISIL or War on ISIS.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 22:51, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

New Kurdish rebellion in West Iran[edit]

I'm following on the recently erupting Kurdish rebellion in West Iran - some 40 people killed over the past two months, prompting its possible upgrade to 100+ soon in case the violence continues at such a rate.GreyShark (dibra) 13:21, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

2016 Eritrean–Ethiopian border skirmish[edit]

According to Eritrean claim 200 Ethiopian soldiers were killed, which justifies inclusion in the 100+ section. Can we verify the Ethiopian casualty statement on the event?GreyShark (dibra) 13:29, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

With more insight, it seems to be part of the Second Afar insurgency.GreyShark (dibra) 15:18, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Its not part of the Afar insurgency, it had nothing to do with the Afar related militants. It was a direct engagement between Ethiopian and Eritrean militaries over Tserona, which the Ethiopeans occupy but is claimed by Eritrea. It has been in Ethiopean hands since the Eritrean-Ethiopian War It appears to have been a probing attack by the Eritrean military, either to test Ethiopean resolve in defending the occupied areas or to distract the Eritrean populace from domestic unrest. The Ethiopeans have refused to give a statement regarding their losses in the engagement and the Eritreans have refused to disclose their losses as well. It seems to have been a large scale battle, but neither side is releasing any details regarding the action.XavierGreen (talk) 01:25, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
So perhaps Second Afar insurgency along with the recent Tserona engagement are both part of the Eritrean-Ethiopian border conflict?GreyShark (dibra) 16:16, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
That would be a correct assessment, Ethiopia and Eritrea regularly have minor skirmishes that are often not reported due to the tight media controls both countries place on military activity. The situation is akin to that on the Indo-Pakistani Border, heavily fortified with occasional skirmishing and rebel groups who raid across the border.XavierGreen (talk) 13:09, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
What are the active years of this Eritrean-Ethiopian border conflict according to what you know? Since the end of the previous war?GreyShark (dibra) 10:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
@XavierGreen: ?GreyShark (dibra) 06:41, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Its pretty much been going on since the war ended, in many respects its similar to the Armenia-Azeri conflict and the Indo-Pakistani conflict, with a heavy militarized border that sees skirmishing. There are various militant groups that the Eritreans support and use them as proxies to attack Ethiopia and that the Ethiopians support and use to attack Eritrea, just like Pakistan does to India. Occasionally the Ethiopians will conduct brief campaigns across the border to attack rebel training areas. XavierGreen (talk) 01:12, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
See here [2] for information on the most recent Ethiopian offensive into Eritrea.XavierGreen (talk) 01:15, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
@XavierGreen: Check out the new article Eritrean–Ethiopian border conflict.GreyShark (dibra) 15:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

N. Ireland dissident campaign[edit]

@Leanseahy: I can see that you added up the Dissident Irish Republican campaign with 178 deaths, but without opening a discussion on this topic as custom for the ongoing military conflict project (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Incubator/Ongoing conflicts, where this list is relevant to). Of course if correct, this should be included; however we have debated this issue many times in the past and so far the majority of editors could not verify the 100+ death toll. Perhaps you are right, but i would like to hear opinions of other project members and guest editors before we include this. I must mention that the conflict is on our watch list, so we are aware of ongoing violence. Thanks.GreyShark (dibra) 15:16, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry to have to repeat myself but I have provided sources to account for all 195 deaths. My reference is a databases that CALCULATES ALL DEATHS in the conflict. I'm trying to improve this page by adding another conflict and people keep removing it? WHy? I have very obviously provided clear evidence. Here is is AGAIN:;;;;;

These aren't dodgy sources, they are 100% reliable. I'm not trying to invent a war here, I am documenting a conflict. THere are other conflcits with similar numbers of deaths so I fail to see why a similar conflcit in Ireland doesn't count.User:Leanseahy 11:47, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Apologies, my figures were actually incorrect. The correct number of deaths is actually 175. This however would appear to be a reason to add this back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leanseahy (talkcontribs) 11:58, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
I have removed the conflict, and I hope it's for the last time. Leanseahy we went over it a few times already, if you look at the page for 2015 for example, they clearly state that 3 of the 4 deaths are not directly linked to the conflict, yet you wrote that 4 people died in 2015. If you go further back in the years, the same thing happens. The 187 (or 175) figure is severely inflated, and as GreyShark pointed out, we already have a watch list page for conflicts that are 'about to possibly enter' the actual list - the actual death toll from the conflict post-1998 is lower. Furthermore, you should not just add and 're-add' stuff just because you think there 'appears to be a reason to add it', especially when it comes to something that has been an issue in the past. The vast majority of sources online do not even approach the kind of numbers we are seeing here, and for good reason. Please consider what I wrote, and of course be warned that any further actions of a similar kind will result in a report. Skycycle (talk) 06:45, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016[edit]

Map update[edit]

  • I noticed there are a few countries that need to have their colors updated on the map, if anyone has the time to do it - Bangladesh needs to go from yellow to orange, and Mexico from red to dark red. Skycycle (talk) 07:03, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Wykx (talk) 08:14, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
I've changed Mexico back to red because the death toll had been updated including all homicides, not only those related to the drug war (about half of the total). --Nykterinos (talk) 21:07, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

September 2016[edit]

2016 Niger Delta conflict[edit]

It is a subset of the conflict in the Niger Delta, so I don't see any point to delete the previous one. I suggest better to list the global conflict with a subset link to the 2016 Niger Delta conflict (if there are some casulaties, which I have not checked yet). Wykx (talk) 19:55, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

The wider conflict is to be listed, similar to Somali civil war or Afghan civil war.GreyShark (dibra) 11:53, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Philippine Drug War[edit]

Two months have passed since this was suggested and it has yet to cease. There allegedly seems to be vigilante groups allegedly working against (with) the government or allegedly with the drug lords and there seems to be at least on incident with police fatalities[1][2][3][4][5] [6] [7] [8] Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 11:34, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Can you specify the groups?GreyShark (dibra) 12:35, 23 October 2016 (UTC)


There is a conflict in Kananga, RDC where local chiefs have taken the airport against the central power. In two days, 107 fatalities including 7 from Central governement have been counted so far. See this link in French:[9] with intense fighting between local militias and the army [10] Can we create a new conflict page and include this new conflict in the list? Wykx (talk) 08:00, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not very much familiar with this event - is this a part of some ongoing or previous conflict?GreyShark (dibra) 15:59, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
This conflict is new. It started after the death of the local chief in August 2016 after an attack at Tshimbulu resulting in 19 killed.[11]. He was contesting the central power and was calling for insurrection until he was killed by the police. His son has asked the local governement to officialize his own enthronement, which the local government never did. Then a place 180 km far from Kananga has first been captured by the militia. Then the airport of Kananga has been captured before being retaken by the army, and that's when the deathtoll has risen suddenly. Now that situation is calm, the local executive has called now for discussions and solidarity of the population against the insurrection. According to the governement the deathtoll is provisional with 49 dead and 185 captured.[12] Wykx (talk) 18:25, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
So put it at the watchlist i guess. Let's see whether it develops further.GreyShark (dibra) 06:40, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

October 2016[edit]

Kurdish separatism in Iran[edit]

According to insurgent sources the fatalities in recent rebellion already well above 100 for this year, though according to government - around 80.GreyShark (dibra) 17:05, 13 October 2016 (UTC)