Talk:List of open-source mobile phones
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Answer: 1. Firefox OS definitely should be added, as well as be returned vandalized Nokia's N900 and others. Possibly HP webOS could be included also, since it seems its code was finally fully opened (this needs recheck). And anything else that holds the criterias can be added. Android doesn't hold the criteria of opennes, because it has closed source kernel with wiretapping components, alas.
This list only includes phones that run 100% free software on their main CPUs.
Why is this the criteria for "open source"? Open source is not "free software" and should use the criteria for open source. (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html) TheKingRat (talk) 17:53, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
"Proprietary baseband firmware"
Currently the article contains the sentence:
- All mobile phones have proprietary baseband (GSM module) firmware.
The sentence has had a citation since 26 September 2013, but I'm not totally happy with it. First off, it links to osmocomBB wiki — I personally have no issues with wikis being used as references, but I know that some people might. Secondly, according to that very page, it was "Last modified 4 years ago". Four years ago companies like GeeksPhone or Jolla didn't exist, and neither did their respective operating systems (Firefox OS and Sailfish OS) or other competiting free and open source software mobile operating systems. As such, I think that this claim could either use a re-evaluation or a more recent source that would reflect today's situation — even if the situation remains unchanged. --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 13:43, 12 October 2013 (UTC)