Talk:List of people from Leicester and Leicestershire

Article title

Since a lot of the people included are from various parts of Leicestershire rather than from Leicester, wouldn't this article be better titled "Notable people from Leicestershire"?--Michig 15:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

This is still an issue. Many of the people listed are not from Leicester. --Michig (talk) 08:56, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Alistair Campbell, although attending a school in Leicester for a time, is from Keighley (see his Wikipedia page for details)

King Richard 3rd died at the Battle of Bosworth in the county of Leicestershire. He was born in Northamptonshire. (see his Wikipedia page)

This asks the question, what does it mean to be a 'notable' person from Leicester. Should a person have been born in the city, or the county, or have spent a significant or important period of their life residents in the city or County (if so what would be meant as significant or important).

To list, for example, Alistair Campbell as being a notable person from Leicester is perhaps a little misleading and needs clarification to avoid readers from thinking he was born in the city. Thorntonbadger (talk) 00:10, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

'Leicesterian'

Since this term is rarely used and (as far as I can tell), difficult to source as regards the meaning ascribed in the article, is there really any benefit to including it in the lede? It only appears to attract vandalism. Google Books suggest a different meaning to someone who comes from Leicester, with some sources referring to a 'Leicesterian faction' and 'Leicesterian prejudices'.--Michig (talk) 20:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I concur. JRPG (talk) 16:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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Richard III

I'm mildly astonished Richard hasn't been added by now as he is clearly associated with Leicester irrespective of whether -as seems virtually certain -he is buried in Leicester cathedral. JRPG (talk) 11:10, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

If we're going to have Richard III in the list based only his being buried in Leicester, surely we should also add Thomas Wolsey. --Michig (talk) 12:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Michig. I'm not sure if your objective is to convince me about the value of adding Wolsey or not adding Richard :) I go to Leicester Archaeology fortnight lectures & they have emphasized that Wolsey didn't do much more than die in Leicester. Richard Buckley -the lead archaeologist explained Richard came back to Leicester because the people knew him & he stayed there before the battle etc. As well as being the last medieval king, the archaeology inevitably makes Richard of higher interest than most other kings -& that archaeology is linked to Leicester. I don't expect much difficulty justifying his entry. JRPG (talk) 14:02, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

@Michig: For your reassurance, lead archaeologist Richard Buckley's book ISBN 978-0-9574792-2-7 begins with a forward by Prof Sir Robert Burgess Vice Chancellor of the University of Leicester, the first sentence of which is below:-

The discovery of Richard III was a defining moment in the story of Leicester. The search for his mortal remains under a car park made history - and captured headlines across the world.

JRPG (talk) 09:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

The fact remains that R3 was not in any sense 'from Leicester', nor did he have a strong association with the city or county when he was alive. Those are the criteria for inclusion in this list. --Michig (talk) 17:28, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Michig. ...or otherwise associated with the city. ..is the relevant phrase in the definition. It's hard to imagine anyone more strongly associated than R3. For info, in case you haven't seen it, here's his route out of Leicester Any suggestions for arbitration if necessary? JRPG (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Prof Howard Jones

Firstly seasonal greetings/happy new year Richard and Michig. I noted that you have quote rightly deleted a number of dubious entries but I didn't expect Howard Jones to be one of them. The cited guardian quote contains
He began academic life as a lecturer in social studies and then senior lecturer in sociology at Leicester 1953-65, before moving to a Readership at Keele 1965-69 ....
This was one of my first edits in 2008 & I thought his first academic post would qualify him as "otherwise associated with the city." If you have seen this and disagree then I'll accept defeat! Regards JRPG (talk) 23:17, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi JRPG the article title is 'List of people from Leicester' not ' List of people associated with Leicester.' As my edit summary stated the supporting reference clearly stas that he is from West Bromwich, in Staffordshire. He did have a period of time when he worked in Leicester, as he obviously had in several other locations around the world, working in Criminology. Taking that criteria into consideration how many articles could he be added to, as being from ? As an example former Prime Minister Harold Wilson spent most of his working life in London, though he was from Huddersfield. If we added everyone - Politicians, businessmen, Lecturers, proffesionals from all walks of life, who have worked in a location as from it then there would chaos. I hope that explains it more clearly. :) Richard Harvey (talk) 05:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)