Talk:List of male performers in gay porn films

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RfC and obfuscation of earlier consensus[edit]

In the archives of this talk page there are editing instructions for this page which represent earlier consensus. They actually address most of the sourcing and inclusion issues present in the article and, had they been followed, we would not be having an RfC about red links (or having a future one about sourcing). They are well written and useful - please read them:

Editing instructions

How to edit this article[edit]

Note: Please read this information carefully before editing the article.

This is not a directory. See Wikipedia is not a directory.

This article is an index of Wikipedia articles that have been written and also serves as a list of articles that need to be written. In order for a name without an article to be included here, there must be a reasonable expectation that an article will be written about the person. See Wikipedia:List guideline, Wikipedia:Lists of people.

With rare exceptions, the person who is the topic of the article should meet the current versions of the Wikipedia:Notability (pornographic actors) and Wikipedia:Notability guidelines. Like much else in Wikipedia, these are often undergoing edits; however, if an article is challenged for removal, failure to satisfy those guidelines is likely to be quoted as a reason for the article's deletion.

Any information about men listed here should always comply with Wikipedia:Biographies of living people.

The list does not include performers who have appeared on websites or in live shows unless they have also appeared in a gay porn film.

Inclusion or removal[edit]

In addition to the statements above, the following list more specifically defines who may be included here.

  1. Unsourced names are removed.
  2. There must be a source for each name appearing on the list—each pseudonym ("a.k.a.") must be sourced.
    • The name must be sourced here even if there is an article on the person. If it's listed here, it needs to be sourced here as well as in the article. Other Wikipedia articles are not valid sources for this article.
    • The source must show that the performer has appeared in a gay porn film.
    • A source need not be a link to an internet website; other reliable sources may be cited. See Wikipedia:Attribution—Reliable sources.
    • Links to self-published personal websites are not valid sources. See Wikipedia:Attribution:Using questionable or self-published sources.
    • Links to retail websites are to be avoided.
  3. Each name requires only one citation to a reliable source to allow the name to be included here. Multiple references to encompass a performer's complete body of work are not required nor encouraged (put them in the performer's article).
  4. Names with videographies of four or fewer original films (not compilations) may be removed; they should not be reinserted until an encyclopedic article about them has been written.
  5. If an article about a performer failed an Articles for Deletion (AfD) deletion review the performer's name should be removed until an article that will survive such a review is written. See the section Removing names from the list below about the process for doing this.
  6. If no verifiable source showing the person was a performer in a gay porn film is found, 'the name must be deleted from the article and no further refernce to the name made—not in the edit summary or on this talk page.

Styles for entries with and without articles[edit]

All the videographies for a performer with pseudonyms should be listed at the first name in the list, even if that is not the most commonly known name or the name used for the title of the article. The use of see in his subsequent listings cross-references the first name; all the pseudonyms for a performer need not be listed at each entry in the list. Only the name with the references needs to be cross-referenced:

  • Daniel Brown a.k.a. Danny Brown, Dany Brown, Richard French Daniel Danny Dany French (straight)
  • Danny Brown see Daniel Brown
  • Dany Brown see Daniel Brown
  • Richard French see Daniel Brown

The name that is the link to an article may be included in the cross-reference:

Unless there is an article on the performer listed here, their name should not be wikilinked. There should never be redlinks in this article. Do not wikilink a name before writing an article on the performer. An article about a person with an identical name to one listed here will be linked here even though the subject of the other article is not a performer in gay porn films.

Removing names from the list[edit]

A name on the list that is not a porn performer must be completely deleted; the name should not be mentioned in the edit summary; nor should it be listed here. The process of using invisible comments detailed below does not apply in the case where there is no evidence that the person was in porn.

If the name being removed is properly sourced and there is no question as to whether the person is a performer, it is preferable to format the name as an invisible comment rather than removing it. This will help prevent the same name being added and deleted multiple times. The comment should include the name of the performer, a reference to the source that shows he is a porn performer, and the reason for deletion.

If an article about a performer is deleted the name should be removed from the list and not reinserted unless and until an article that meets Wikipedia's requirements is written on the performer. Subsequent editors will then know not to reinsert it until the article about the performer is written. For example, Ralph Woods—who is a porn performer videography—failed an Articles for deletion review. Rather than deleting his entry altogether, it is commented out, using the invisible comments format:

<!-- Deleted, failed AfD:
* Ralph Woods <small> [http://www.tlavideo.com/templates/results_list.cfm?pid=80367&sn=1&v=3 videography]</small>, see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ralph Woods]]. -->
The edit summary for the removal was: "Commented out Ralph Wood—failed AfD".

Only one blank line may be used outside the comment, either above or below the text; otherwise, an additional blank line is shown in the list. Multiple blank lines may be used inside the comment between the <!-- and --> marks. Remember to leave the reference/videography information in the comment and add the reason for the name being removed so that the name isn't relisted.

Note: To reiterate, there should never be an invisible comment for a name that was deleted for not being sourced as a porn performer. Nor should the name be included in the edit summary; "Removed unsourced name" should be used instead. If the name is unsourced, it should not be associated with gay porn at all; do not list the name on the article's Talk page, either.

Article titles[edit]

Unless there is already an article with the same name as that of the performer or the performer's name is likely to be confused with someone or something else, no descriptor/modifier needs to be appended to the name for the article's title.

If a modifier is need, the convention is to use "(porn star)" after the name. In cases where there are more than two articles with identical names, they should all be listed at a disambiguation page (for an example, see Randy White).

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2016[edit]

~kevin payne

Scott Davenport was a gay porn performer in the early 2000's. His first role was with Eric magyar's ameteur compamy, Buffstuff videos, in a film titled "Fraternity Jockstrap Wrestling". Magyar quicky realized Davenport was gaining a following, and predicted he would be a hit in the gay adult industry. He soon caught the eye of Robert Prion of Galaxy Pictures, and offered to cast him in his 50th film, "If You Dare". Davenport was from a small town im North Carolina. He traveled to DC to work with Magyar. Prion contacted Davenport that summer, and Davenport drove to New Jersey with his roomate. Prion was impressed, and the scene was scheduled for the next day. He costarred with Alex Turner in a pool scene. Prion quickly scheduled another scene while Davenport was still in town with Jay Richards to be featured in his next film "So that's how you want it". He also offered Davenport another scene in "If You Dare" and introduced him to Cody Marshall. Davenport and Marshall immediately hit it off, but Prion, wanting the scene to be fresh, hoping after a month, the anticipation would make for an intense scene. Davenport was gertting favorable reviews, and his following was growing. He soon looked towards the West Coast, and was cast with Can-Am Productions in Hollywood. He was flown out and costarred with Cameron Sage. Most of the scene was filmed at a mansion in the Hollywood Hills, took 2 days of filming. He was offered to do a solo strip dance video, and completed that before flying back to North Carolina. He went on to be cast in another film for Prion as the main star in "One Step Further" with Chris Stone, a well known adult film star. He did a couple more before setteling down in a relationship in Myrtle Beach, SC for 2 years. As the relationship was ending, Magyar contacted him saying a gay publication wanted to do a phone interview for an article. Magyar was expanding his Buffstuff videos, and had several ameteur models lined up, where they would be filming and featured at the gay resort in the PA Poconoes The Rainbow Mountain Resort. Davenport agreed to be featured and flown to New Jersey, as Magyar's breakout star who went professional. That would be the last film for Davenport, who decided to retire early from the limelight. Ckws261 (talk) 01:10, 31 December 2016 (UTC)--Ckws261 (talk) 01:10, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. - Mlpearc (open channel) 01:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

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