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we agreed to that as an entrance to mediation, which you gave up on. The status of an SAR doesn't mean they aren't part of the PRC and your insistence on presenting them as independent is POV. Listing them as part of China says nothing, for or against, their home-rule. SchmuckyTheCat 20:50, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Listing countries, including non-sovereign territories, with their own sections says nothing about whether they are independent sovereign states or not. Their relations with the corresponding sovereign states (in this case the PRC) would better be reflected, and in this case, sufficiently acknowledged. This list is not part of the mediation, but we agreed there that we shall log new additions, instead of edit warring on them. — Instantnood 16:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
The mediation is closed - it never even opened, really, because of your insistence on defining the terms of it. One country, two systems. Not two countries. Hong Kong belongs in a listing with China. SchmuckyTheCat 16:39, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Words can have multiple meanings. The word "country" in the "one country, two systems" slogan is not the same as in general usage. In general usage it's not limited to sovereign states, whereas in that slogan-form policy it's specifically meaning the PRC as a sovereign state. The mediation cannot progress because you have until this moment insisted not to step back from the advantages. — Instantnood 17:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Then inclusion of the Oberbaumbrücke here is strictly speaking incorrect, since it is used by the Berlin U-Bahn. An U-Bahn in Germany, legally, operates a a tramway (Straßenbahn), not a railway (Eisenbahn). And bridges used by streets and tramways are common in cities with tramways, probably it is hard to find a tramway system which does not share its bridges with roads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 21:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)