Talk:List of school shootings in the United States

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(empty template capture)[edit]

I suggest a consistent entry format in this work, for example: (Name of School) Perpetrator X did this to Y "(Jonesville Elementary School) Joe Snuffy, a student, shot and killed 7 students, wounded 30."

Names of victims should be omitted in this list and included in a separate article about the incident in question.

Proposed split 21 May 2018[edit]

I propose that this page be split into one page per century (List of school shootings in the United States in the 21st century, etc.) and just have the major shootings on here, as this page is way too long (~400 KB).  Nixinova  T  C  06:41, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Oppose. Dividing by century is far less helpful than just removing the minor incidents. It would be more reasonable to just include mass shootings. Natureium (talk) 14:05, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Oppose The Columbine mass shooting (which happened in the 20th century) is widely considered to the first modern school mass shooting. It has more in common with the Stoneman Douglas shooting and other mass school shootings in the 21th century than it does with school mass shootings that happened earlier in the 20 century. Separating school shootings by century doesn't make much sense since those are just arbitrary numbers TheHoax (talk) 22:08, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Oppose It doesn't make much sense to fork the categories. Overall, there is a need to keep the categories to a sensible minimum. Most people think "school shooting", not "20th century school shooting" or "20th century school shooting where more than four people were killed".--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:38, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Oppose I don't know that we need a formal close on this, but there seems to be no support for this fork other than by the OP, and this has been open for three months. Meters (talk) 05:22, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

"This list is incomplete, you can help by expanding it"[edit]

Seriously? Even though the intentions of the template are harmless and it would be considered to be completely so in any other article, it appears somewhat offensive in an article like this. Is it possible to make a different one saying e. g. "you can help by adding more information" etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.164.205.41 (talk) 18:44, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree that it is inappropriate for this article and should be taken down. But we can't take it down until we have a "consensus", so others need to show support for any change to happen too. Adervae (talk) 19:57, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
If it's intended to be harmless, then it's perfectly fine. There is no need for a change. Minty fresh like mmmm (talk) 21:23, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Frankly, your feelings about this are irrelevant, as are mine. Do you have any reason based in policy or sources to change it? If course it's intended to be harmless. To suggest otherwise is simply silly. If someone is going to be triggered to commit s henious crime by words printed on this page, then certainly something IRL would also trigger them. This is being pushed by primarily one editor and he's been told no at least five times. It's approaching trolling. John from Idegon (talk) 22:11, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
The reason is based on Wikipedia:Risk disclaimer. Hddty. (talk) 14:36, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, this reminder was kind of silly, especially considering that the list isn't blatantly incomplete. Even something much less countable like List of common misconceptions doesn't have that reminder, so I removed it. – FenixFeather (talk)(Contribs) 23:40, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

University of Pittsburgh Medical Center[edit]

Should a shooting at a hospital on a university campus be counted as a school shooting? University of Pittsburgh Medical Center#UPMC Western Psychiatric Hospital. --Marc Kupper|talk 08:48, 6 December 2018 (UTC)