Talk:List of universities in Canada

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Algoma[edit]

The same persistent user 64.229.246.209 that was on Talk:Canada Day has now retaliated by removing my perfectly fine edit. He obviously has not moved on and has something against me. He used the same thing I told him "per WP:BRD, you must first take it to talk page and see the discussion unfold before the change is made" in a childish way to "get back at me". If he wants it that way, fine, but he is just doing it in spite. In any case, my edit clarified the fact that Algoma was not established in 2008 like it implied before, but was only re-established. This way it is clearer that it wasn't a brand new university formed in 2008, rather it branched from an existing one. Pinging User:Dbrodbeck and User:Walter Görlitz. I already know that Dbrodbeck is fine with the edit as I clarified the second time, and thanked me for it. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:21, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

The aggressively disruptive editor User:Vaselineeeeeeee who has a history or edit waring, and has been banned from editing in the past is once again starting more disruptive editing. In fact the only reason they are even editing this article is from following my edit history. Yet he makes all these wild allegations. I won't get sucked in to a war with an Napoleon complex editor. The edit was unclear and worded poorly. Which is par for the corse. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:33, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Why do you keep bringing up the past? You can't call me for making such allegations when you are doing it yourself. From following your edit history? Not at all. As I said on your talk page, I clicked Dbrodbeck's page and said he was a prof at Algoma, which I then clicked on, and then stumbled upon this page. Did I revert your edit you made to this page? No. It was a fair edit. Walter's been blocked before, does that mean he is a bad editor? Not at all, people learn for their mistakes. Am I edit warring with you now? No. Did I break 3RR? No. What can you report me on? Nothing. This has NOTHING to do with the matter at hand, anyway! Why have you removed my edit? It was poorly worded? Okay, then I'll fix it if that's your only problem. I am open to that, it maybe could have been worded better. Or will you just revert it again out of spite? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:39, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Please use talk page for reworded edit options. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:48, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

How about:

The oldest university, the University of Toronto, was established in 1827, while the newest university, Algoma University, was reestablished as its own university in 2008 after separating from Laurentian University. The largest university in terms of enrolment is the University of Toronto, which has campuses in three locations. The U15 Group of Canadian Research Universities is headquarted in Ottawa. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:54, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

'gaining independence' might be better than 'separating' That said, AU did not exist before 2008 as an entity. Algoma University College did though. Dbrodbeck (talk) 03:06, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Dbrodbeck. That's why in my very first edit to the page, I mentioned the college part. Can you copy that paragraph and input what you would like since I don't know how you would word it with the college entity part. Thanks. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 03:08, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Taking Dbrodbeck's words into consideration, how about:

The oldest university, the University of Toronto, was established in 1827, while the newest university, Algoma University, was reestablished from a college into a university in 2008 after gaining independence from Laurentian University. The largest university in terms of enrolment is the University of Toronto, which has campuses in three locations. The U15 Group of Canadian Research Universities is headquarted in Ottawa. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 03:49, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

If no one has any objections to this revision, I will update it shortly. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 23:20, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Please wait for consensus before making any edits. I still think it confuses the issue and is irrelevant. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 01:59, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Would you like to make a suggestion then? No one has responded in three days, so unless you have a suggestion, the consensus has been reached. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:04, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Actually consensus has not been reached and you will leave it until it has been reached. My suggestion is "The oldest university, the University of Toronto, was established in 1827, and the newest university, Algoma University, was established in 2008" which is accurate. Your versions unnecessarily overcomplicates it. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:13, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
That is not a suggestion. That is no change from before. I will repeat, Algoma was NOT established in 2008 (as it implies it is brand new), but was reestablished from an existing college into a university which is necessary info. You come on Wikipedia just to see if there was a change in this article as you have not made an edit since this discussion on April 12 but are quick to revert within an hour of the addition. You are clearly WP:NOTHERE. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:16, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
The University of Toronto was established in 1827 making it the oldest University in Canada. The newest University in Canada is Algoma University, which was established in 2008 after gaining independence from Laurentian University. Mattximus (talk) 02:18, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Mattximus! That version is fine with me. IP, are you okay with it? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:21, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Perfect. Well done. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:46, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to ping User:Dbrodbeck one more time to see if he agrees. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello all. Sorry, I am at a conference, so have not been paying much attention, well except to the talks at the conference. Anyway, AU wasn't a college really, not in the Canadian sense. It was a university college, which is a bit different. We granted laurentian degrees up until 2008. Nipissing was like that until it got its independence. Hope this helps. Dbrodbeck (talk) 17:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Dbrodbeck on that note, would you be okay with Mattximus' version since it doesn't mention college but does present the fact it gained independence from Laurentian (not a whole new establishment). Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 17:15, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I think that is the best version yes. Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:44, 15 April 2016 (UTC)