Talk:Lists of fictional extraterrestrials
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- 1 Older discussion
- 2 Redundant?
- 3 Kromaggs
- 4 Terellians, etc.
- 5 Larry Niven
- 6 Sentient Species
- 7 Zoidberg
- 8 moai and Tayology
- 9 Saiyans
- 10 Gargon
- 11 Ben 10 aliens
- 12 Videogames in general
- 13 Comics in general
- 14 Comments about the article
- 15 Necris
- 16 Merge
- 17 Blue humanoids
- 18 Organization
- 19 race, species, life form
- 20 Na'vi as a non-sentient species?
- 21 Gallaxhar
- 22 Fictional exobiological microorganisms
- 23 "Fictional"?
- 24 Unlisted felinoids
I think this list would be much better if it were organized alphabetically by series as opposed to shape. It would certainly make it easier to read. Oberiko
- My personal preference would be to sort by name and annotate each one as to series and category. The main problem with grouping like at present is that it gets really tricky if something should appear in more than one group. --Phil 10:09, Feb 25, 2004 (UTC)
Surely Pikmin would count as aliens? If Chozo are in the list, Pikmin should be too. Cheese 15:59, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- who/what is it? IreverentReverend 28 June 2005 18:46 (UTC)
This is predominantly a Science Fiction list. I suggest expanding it. Any thoughts about that? Ereinion 06:10, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Spock is not a race, and Vulcans are in the list. Delete? Or allow for hybrid Star Trek humanoids to feature? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorganos (talk • contribs) 14:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Abydonians are a fictional human culture, not a separate race.Jorganos 15:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it's confusing to have this page (and the set it came from) as well as the Category:Fictional alien species set of pages (which is more complete).
- Actually, this set is more complete, as it was aliens and species listed that don't actually have pages, and thus cannot appear in the auto generated catagory listing. IreverentReverend 28 June 2005 18:46 (UTC)
This page seems overly redunant. There is alread a list of Alien speices by Type, and is more detailed and organized than this list.
I question if they should be listed. According to Sliders the Kromaggs are not extraterrestials since they actually originate from Earth - albeit an alternate Earth. I suppose that's based on the specifics of the definition. At the least, I removed the mention of them being the descendents of Cro-Magnons since the Kromaggs' ancestors are actually "killer apes" that won the evolutionary race by murdering early homo-sapians. Their connection to Cro-Magnons is simply their name, which is meant to be a pun more than anything. --Bacteria 04:25, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, Kromags are not native (ie. Alien) to our Earth (at least to the Dimension of protagonists of Sliders), and are a different, if related, speices. I say they can be considered an alien speices. I might also note that in the Sliders series, the Kromags also developed along side Homo Sapiens, so they didn't win the race.
This list includes no less than three almost identically spelled races: Terellians, Terrelians, Terrellians, and possibly Tarellians as well. Looks to me like all four are the same race, and people only use different spellings for them. Unfortunately, none of them have articles on Wikipedia. Some have articles on Memory Alpha, but I can't currently contact the Memory Alpha servers at all, so I can't verify. What is the correct spelling? And don't tell me Star Trek is stupid enough to have four different alien races with such similar names. — JIP | Talk 14:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- It is stupid enough. See:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Terellian http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Tarellian http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Terrellian http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Terrelian . They are actually five species - there are two species called the Terrellians. Ausir 13:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this line:
A Ptavv is a Thrint who lack 'The Power' and Pak are listed elsewhere. Bangers 14:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
This list would benefit greatly from either having sentient species marked prominently, or by having them broken out into a seperate list. DrHydeous 18:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
moai and Tayology
I tried deleting the reference to "Moai" and "Tayology", but the contributor put them back. The moai are the huge carved stone heads on Easter Island, and they have nothing to do with the topic of this page. I searched for "Tayology" on the Internet and found only a couple of personal blog pages. However, I found the answer on the contributor's own personal talk page - it all has to do with a person UFO abduction. I suggest that this material should go on a page that deals with UFO abductions, not aliens in fiction. If UFOs are real, then the insertion is clearly non-fiction and does not belong on this page. Cbdorsett 15:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
The Saiyan race was unconfirmed until the Dragonball Z series, therefore it is more appropriate to tag them specifically to that series. (Goku was confirmed as a Saiyan in the episode The Arrival of Raditz, where other Saiyans were introduced.)
I don't know if it's appropriate to this list, but it appears that this is for creatures in movies as well as written fiction. Please consider:
Gargons: lobster-like creatures that arrived when Teenagers from Outer Space landed on Earth. They start out like small 1-2 kg lobsters and grow into giant (maybe 10-20 meters tall?) gargons. For more info about the movie, see Teenagers from Outer Space. AdderUser 00:41, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Ben 10 aliens
Shouldn't the Ben 10 aliens whose species names are known be referred to by their species name in this article, and not by what Ben names them? Just wondering.MegaWhatt 02:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Videogames in general
Post video game aliens here. Anyways, you're missing the Seekers from Advent Rising.
Also missing Maximals and Predacons from Beast Wars.
Comics in general
Missing Venom, Carnage and the other symbiotes.
Comments about the article
From the looks of it: this list is a catchall for anything extraterrestial in fiction. Am I right? I certainly don't agree with that, as all of these might not be completely notable. A majority of things on the list indeed have articles on Wikipedia: but that certainly doesn't mean all are notable subjects for articles in the first place. Instead of dumping ground for everything, shouldn't the list be notable/important things only? RobJ1981 08:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- seems to me that it largely is--about half those listed have individual articles in WP, and 95% or so are characters in works that do. Would be a good idea to specify, though--e.g. that the formics are the species whose relationship to humans & annihilation most of the series is basically about. But it might be a good idea to separate the SF from the video games. DGG (talk) 00:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Per the suggested Merge with List of extraterrestrials in fiction by type, I think that's a good idea. We could place the data in a table, and it would be sortable by species name, fictional universe, and species type. (I'm not volunteering to do the merge (my wrists hurt just thinking about all that copying&pasting...), but I agree with the proposal.) -- Quiddity (talk) 20:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I support the merge, but retaining that the classification is based on type (which would be eaiser to classify and easilly find) --Eldarone (talk) 04:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I've merged the Humanoid section, and the 1st three Feline humanoids. Wrists hurt, and I need more monitors (whine). I might get back to it soon, but feel free to join in. ;) -- Quiddity (talk) 07:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Addhoc redirected this article to List of extraterrestrials in fiction by type today. I've reverted, with the hope that the information can be merged first (in either direction), instead of just blanked and forgotten. Thinking about it some more, I've concluded that perhaps merging to the "by type" article is better, as a single huge table is both hard to navigate/edit, and difficult to include notes in, and difficult to include species under multiple types. I'll make a start on merging the tabular format to the "by type" article. -- Quiddity (talk) 20:21, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I support the merge too. At first I was against it until I saw the "Type" column, which means the aliens can still be categorize by their type. So I'll help out by adding them into this article. ---Mediadimension (talk) 22:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- On second thought, this article should be merged with "List of extraterrestrials in fiction by type" only remove the "by type" part from it. Each of the alien lists should split into two columns like "Humanoid extraterrestrials". ---Mediadimension (talk) 22:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree - breaking the list down alphabetically would be an improvement. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 22:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
race, species, life form
my preference would be not to use the words race and species, unless the fictional sources use those words in their descriptions. i would, for instance, not call jabba the hut a member of an alien race, since no one in the movie says so. remember, he doesnt actually exist, so he doesnt have a history, biology, etc. other than what the authors have given him. every living thing does belong to a species, but this isnt true for fictional life forms. i prefer that last word, esp. as its used extensively in sf. either that, or words like "character", "monster", etc. often used in screenplays/summaries/movie dialog. minor point from a science nerd.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:49, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Na'vi as a non-sentient species?
Gallaxhar, the main antagonist from the 3D film Monsters vs. Aliens, should be in the list, but where to put him under?
Links? Could someone please fix the links? At the moment most of them go to disambugation pages or totally unrelated pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 01:04, 14 June 2010 (UTC) ~~LDEJRuff~~ (see what I've contributed) 16:40, 7 June 2010 (EDT)
Fictional exobiological microorganisms
Is there any reason to exclude this class of "aliens"? they do feature prominently in some works, notably Andromeda Strain. perhaps we can add a subheading under nonsentient forms. The film brings up the possibility that this organism COULD be sentient, but presents no evidence for this being true.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:00, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
no they accutally are real and the majority of the population belives and confides within the credentials validating them. the only individuals that dont are crabby scruffy old relgious folk who have issues with there feet and the brainwashed cronies that support them. please dont comment here if all you plan on doing is stirring up shit and inciting a problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 18 April 2011
While many people have strong opinions, the scientific community does not have a consensus answer yet. Some scientists think it highly likely that there is life on other worlds, while other scientists think the Earth may be unique in this respect. For further information, see Extraterrestrial life.Kalidasa 777 (talk) 07:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
What about the Farlans from Aldys Budrys's "Shadow on the Stars". Coeurl from "Black Destroyer"/The Voyage of the Space Beagle by A E Voght. Should these be listed here? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 21:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)