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February 18, 2008Peer reviewReviewed

Taxonomy[edit]

The article is inconsistent with the scientific names it uses. The introduction and the Characteristics section both use Lama glama, but the Classification section uses Lama Eliza glama'kvkjnzsjhbdcknjxhnVGZdhuwtyweasi'.

The first paragraph of the Classification section is confusing. It says:

Lamoids, or llamas (as they are more generally known as a group), consist of the vicuña (Vicugna vicugna, prev. Lama vicugna), guanaco (Lama guanicoe), Suri alpaca, and Huacaya alpaca (Vicugna pacos, prev. Lama guanicoe pacos), and the domestic llama (Lama guanicoe glama).

This sentence gives two definitions of "llama", but it doesn't address the separate meanings. 1. Llamas are a group of animals including vicuña, guanaco, alpaca, and domestic llama. 2. Llamas (Lama guanicoe glama) are a subspecies of guanacos (Lama guanicoe).

I have never heard the term "llama" to mean "llamas, alpacas, and guanacos". Is this a valid use of the term? Either way, this paragraph needs to be rewritten.

EOL (using ITIS) lists llama as Lama glama glama and guanaco as Lama glama guanicoe. Is there a clear authority on this? If so, the article should be updated. If not, the article should at least be internally consistent and should acknowledge the dispute.

Raran75 (talk) 06:31, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Guard Llama[edit]

The statement "Research suggests the use of multiple guard llamas is not as effective as one. Multiple males tend to bond with one another, rather than with the livestock, and may ignore the flock." lacks a primary citation. The two provided citations are indirect (article and brochure). Other more recent studies have come to the opposite conclusion, that effectiveness increases with more than one. In addition, the implication is that only gelded males make good guards. Females make excellent guards too. Rebuscom (talk) 05:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC) It is such an animal that is all cast into one. It can be offen seen in south america. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.207.219.162 (talk) 15:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Pictures[edit]

This article has more pictures of llamas in the UK and the US than, let's say in Bolivia, where llamas are from.

This is an increasing bias in wikipedia, to have everything UK and US centered, not only in terms of pictures in this article, but also in the writing style of many articles and sections. Even articles that in theory have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the UK or the USA, and even the picture of a llama, are used to introduce UK or US links and abused in this regard to the point of absurdity.

Wikipedia is in this regards becoming dangerously political. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.1.78 (talk) 21:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

A good academic summary[edit]

Pitt.edu. I think this could enrich the article. Komitsuki (talk) 07:25, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

English[edit]

"They are very social animals." This is not how one begins a new paragraph: how about "Llamas are very social animals."

If you want to protect an article from being overwritten, kindly demonstrate adult command of English. 73.46.127.40 (talk) 03:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Llama breeds[edit]

Exactly how many llama breeds are there? Komitsuki (talk) 13:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2016[edit]

205.174.240.245 (talk) 16:47, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2018[edit]

This is an incorrect assertion that llamas are ruminants. According to Dr. Murray E. Fowler, recognized camelid expert and author/co-author of 85+ publications on camelid medicine, llamas are not ruminants, not pseudo-ruminants, and not modified ruminants. Fowler's book "Medicine and Surgery of Camelids" is probably the most recognized and comprehensive book available on camelid medicine. Fowler, M.E. (2010). "Medicine and Surgery of Camelids", Ames, Iowa: Wiley-Blackwell. Chapter 1 General Biology and Evolution addresses the fact that camelids (including llamas and camels) are not ruminants, pseudo-ruminants, or modified ruminants. Dotllama (talk) 21:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. -- Dane talk 03:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

"died of old age"[edit]

You cannot die of old age. Very unprofessional-sounding sentence in the United States section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.249.102.6 (talk) 20:44, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2020[edit]

{{subiuywhtuihtiuthiuthiuryirtyiruyiyurytuiytiuyiuertyruyreuytiutiuroiuwhur suggested changes below this line, preferably in a "change X to Y" format. Other editors need to know what to add or remove. Blank edit requests will be declined. --> slaksfjsujukfrjrkukakslfj auhihh aufhihf not remove the tildes and curly brackets below. --> }} ESey 09 (talk) 11:20, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. → Timbaaatalk 15:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

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Llama

The llama (Lama glama) is a domesticated South American camelid, widely used as a meat and pack animal by Andean cultures since the pre-Columbian era. A full-grown llama can reach a height of 1.7 to 1.8 metres (5 ft 7 in to 5 ft 11 in) at the top of the head, and can weigh between 130 and 200 kilograms (290 and 440 lb). At birth, a baby llama (known as a cria) can weigh between 9 and 14 kilograms (20 and 31 lb). Llamas typically live for 15 to 25 years, with some individuals surviving 30 years or more. This photograph shows a dam (female llama) and her cria at Laguna Colorada in Eduardo Avaroa Andean Fauna National Reserve, Bolivia.

Photograph credit: Kallerna