|List of people reported to have lived beyond 130 was nominated for deletion. The debate was closed on 8 September 2015 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Longevity myths. The original page is now a redirect to here. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.|
|This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Longevity myths article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
|Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3|
|The Arbitration Committee has permitted Wikipedia administrators to impose discretionary sanctions on any editor editing this page or associated pages.|
|This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:|
|This talk page is automatically archived by MiszaBot I. Any threads with no replies in 4 months may be automatically moved. Sections without timestamps are not archived.|
Biblical examples are currently limited to Genesis.
Jehoiada living to 130 also seems beyond what is currently considered possible.
While's Moses 120 is within the range of confirmed long lifespans, who two older siblings died earlier the same year. Aaron was 3 years older and Miriam was the oldest with the exact age unknown, but when Moses was born she older enough to follow his basket. So they straddle the line.
And since the Korean example is only 118, I figure Anna The Prophetess should count, she's been a widow for 87 years after being married for 7 from her Virginity, that's 94 years. The youngest she could have lost her virginity at was 12, but I suspect she was at least 16.--JaredMithrandir (talk) 14:08, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- The part of the verse is, literally, "she was a widow of four and eighty years". First, 84, not 87. Second, that allows, as it stands, two possible interpretations: a), 84 years of widowhood following 7 years of marriage following "as a young lass she was married", and a "young lass" for marriage was not then 16 (that may have been a usual marriage age, but I guess not one where her youngness would have been specifically noted), but more probably 13 or 14, yielding 105 years: not at all impossible. The second interpretation is the rather un-startling claim that she was a widow and 84 years old (after some sixty or so years of widowhood): certainly an old woman, possibly more so around the 0th millenium, but having nothing to do with a longevity myth.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Proposal: move "Modern extreme longevity claims" section
The "Modern extreme longevity claims" section of this article seems to be in the wrong place. The disambiguation text at the top of the page says the this article is about myths related to the mythology of humans or other beings living to mythological ages. For validated specific supercentenarian claims by modern standards, see List of the verified oldest people. For modern, or complete, unvalidated supercentenarian claims, see Longevity claims. Clearly, modern extreme longevity claims are not related to mythology. As far as I can tell, the difference between "myths" and "claims" is that myths are 130 years or more, and claims are between 115 and 130 years. I believe this is arbitrary, not supported by reliable sources, and presumably original research. I propose that we move the entire section to Longevity claims. Pburka (talk) 22:29, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- The content is certainly out of this article's scope. I removed it, but have reinstated it as the current criteria stated at the target article is arbitrary and fairly unhelpful. Further discussion is required for ascertaining why the arbitrary criteria are in place.--Jeffro77 (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Question about source
One example is sourced from worldnewsdailyreport.com which has a disclaimer stating that all "news" on the site is fiction. Does WP have a consensus about this "fake news" site?TBoaN (talk) 17:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
The article states: "Taejo of Goguryeo (46/47 – 165) is generally accepted as having reigned in Korea for 93 years beginning at age 7. After his retirement, the Samguk Sagi and Samguk Yusa give his age at death as 118."
If the claim is "generally accepted", and since the age is not outside the bounds of plausible human longevity, it would appear that the assertion falls outside the scope of this article. Is it actually "generally accepted"? If so, delete. If not, re-word.--Jeffro77 (talk) 02:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 6 external links on Longevity myths. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20111002194525/http://www.advaitaashrama.org/pb_archive/2007/PB_2007_November.pdf to http://www.advaitaashrama.org/pb_archive/2007/PB_2007_November.pdf
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110124234615/http://www.minhajuk.org/pdf/ijazat.pdf to http://www.minhajuk.org/pdf/ijazat.pdf
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110606231722/http://www.uri.edu/iaics/content/2008v17n1/07%20Mengyu%20Li.pdf to http://www.uri.edu/iaics/content/2008v17n1/07%20Mengyu%20Li.pdf
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20151124080704/http://www.thevoicebw.com/2011/07/15/oldest-woman-in-botswana-dies-at-130-years/ to http://www.thevoicebw.com/2011/07/15/oldest-woman-in-botswana-dies-at-130-years/
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20161105093844/http://www.liberianobserver.com/news-obituaries/liberia%E2%80%99s-oldest-citizen-dies-153 to http://www.liberianobserver.com/news-obituaries/liberia%E2%80%99s-oldest-citizen-dies-153
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20151124064350/http://www.realitatea.net/cine-este-clujeanul-care-a-trait-148-de-ani-actele-care-dovedesc-ca-nu-e-vorba-de-un-mit_1106494.html to http://www.realitatea.net/cine-este-clujeanul-care-a-trait-148-de-ani-actele-care-dovedesc-ca-nu-e-vorba-de-un-mit_1106494.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
You may set the
|checked=, on this template, to true or failed to let other editors know you reviewed the change. If you find any errors, please use the tools below to fix them or call an editor by setting
|needhelp= to your help request.
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
If you are unable to use these tools, you may set
|needhelp=<your help request> on this template to request help from an experienced user. Please include details about your problem, to help other editors.
The link for Johanna Ramatse (1 January 1883 – 31 May 2017) claims that Violet Brown of Jamaica is 117 years old (and calls her the world's oldest living person). That article also states, "According to USA Today, the world's oldest person ever recorded was an Indonesian man who claimed to have been born in 1870 and died on Thursday." I'm merely citing (the content of) the citation that appears in the article. MaynardClark (talk) 19:27, 24 June 2017 (UTC)