Talk:Longview, Texas/Archive 1
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- 1 Bob Gray
- 2 City of Longview flag
- 3 Vanity vandalism
- 4 Notables should be notable
- 5 Make it better!
- 6 What makes a person notable?
- 7 Copyright violation
- 8 Non-notable "Notable Longviewers"
- 9 Let's relax on the pictures
- 10 Scroll bars on "Notes" section
- 11 Removed History section
- 12 Per capita Income
- 13 Promotional tag
Is Bob Gray really a notable citizen of Longview? I mean, yes, I know he's the pastor of Longview Baptist Temple... but is he really a citizen of note in the same sense of the other nationally-known and recognized citizens listed on the same page? --Vengeful Cynic 12:05, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. I am glad to see that was deleted. I was on my way to do it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CuratorUniversalis (talk • contribs) 02:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
City of Longview flag
I have noted in a photo on the city web site that the flag has changed and now includes a hot air balloon in the lower right corner of the city logo on the flag. I haven't been there in over 6 years, so it's not really home any more. Can anyone find further information about the city flag and logo? Lnthomp 17:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Continued vanity vandalism to promote someone named Jared Goza- this person keeps being added to notable citizens as an actor and writer, but a Google search shows only he is a high school student in Longview with nothing to indicate he is 'notable'- conclude this is just vanity vandalism- --Mobilelearn 18:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Note: More vandalism continues to happen here in adding in a former mayor as a 'famous mayor' as well as adding a link to his blog 'longviewpaper.com'. Neither of which should be in this page. Murry Moore was not a 'famous mayor' (actually quit mid term, no major actions during his term) and his blog (longviewpaper.com) is simply a vanity site to complain about the city. I feel if we add his name as a 'famous mayor' we should include every mayor this city has along with their blogs.. --126.96.36.199 17:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Continued vandalism. Someone is replacing links to the Economic Development Co with links to longviewpaper.com blog. --188.8.131.52 16:04, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Notables should be notable
Let's keep the listing of Notable Persons that of truly notable in their field or accomplishments. It does not improve the article on Longview if obscure persons or persons known on a limited regional or state wide level are listed. The listing of Hardy Martel Parkerson is a good example. He may have been born in Longview but actually lived in White Oak until 12, according to his bio.
Most recently after a failed 2007 effort to run for governor of Louisiana (where he lived since high school) he retired from the practice of law.
Perhaps any article on Mr. Parkerson should be placed on a page for Lake Charles where he has lived and practiced law for the great majority of his life. Longview has many much more notable lawyers which are born, live and practice in Longview or elsewhere and who have accomplished much more than Mr. Parkerson. Eagle (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Make it better!
I'm adding alot of photos from the area that I have takin over the years. I was looking at Tyler's page and their page is alot better then Longviews. I will do some more research and try to beef this page up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Americandude2011 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok I have taken some pictures today of the area and added to the page. I added a few sections and some stats of the area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Americandude2011 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
What makes a person notable?
After deleting the listing of Hardy Parkerson from the listing of Longview's "Notable People" and giving my reasons, the name was re-listed. To be fair, if Mr. Parkerson believes himself or if some one who knows him believes him to be a person who has notoriety because of his connection in Longview, I am willing to let the reader decide. I do not dispute that Mr. Parkerson is notable for various reasons. He is known for his poetic ditty's and short rhyming verses. He is also known very well in Louisiana as an attorney where he practiced for some 40 years. He has supporters and admirers as well as detractors he did not go quietly into the night when he resigned the Louisiana bar and retired from the practice of law.
However, since Mr. Parkerson has lived and worked in Lake Charles, Louisiana since before he graduated from high school; and since he has not done anything significant or notable in his life that has been connected to his early years in Longview; and, since he is not recognized or known by any but a very few people in Longview, it is therefore fair to question his listing as a notable person from Longview.
Mr. Parkerson was born in Longview. He lived in White Oak (not Longview) until he was 12, (according to records found on the internet). He moved to Nacogdoches, Texas and at some time moved again to Lake Charles, Louisiana where he graduated from high school. Since then there is little if any record of his interaction with "his home town." As I said before, he needs to be satisfied to be a notable person from Lake Charles and Louisiana.
Therefore, if he is to be listed, and because he is not well known, some background needs to be given. A short bio and the circumstances which led to his resignation and all should be made available to those who read his name in the list. Otherwise he should be satisfied with his legacy in Louisiana, for he has none of note here. Eagle (talk) 05:11, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I am removing the entire History section because large parts of it appear to be a violation of copyrighted material. There are large tracts that match verbatim text found at visitlongviewtexas.com. Those parts that don't match the text on that page have the same tone and style, so it is possible if not likely that the whole section was lifted from the copyrighted works cited at the foot of that page: Traditions of the Land: the History of Gregg County and fromThe Club and the Town: The Rotary Club and the City of Longview, Texas, Year by Year from 1920 to 1995, both books written by Eugene W. McWhorter.
Non-notable "Notable Longviewers"
I've noticed that there is a trend of non-notable nonsense creeping into the list of notable people from Longview. The list below is the batch that I've just removed, none of whom so much as turned up on Google.
- Jacqueline Shivers, actress and evil genius
- A Bullet For Pretty Boy, amazing local band
- M. Baldwin Lewis, screenwriter
- Carrissa Amberly, Singer
- Garrett Stone, Popular Black Metal Musician and Stoner
None of the above pass the Wikipedia Test for Notability. This isn't to say that I've gotten all of the non-notable entries, but I think I've made a dent. As always, if someone finds something to suggest that any of my removals are off-point, please feel free to re-include with citations. --Vengeful Cynic (talk) 09:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Help!! I have added Miranda Leigh Lambert to the list of Longview notables but I cannot get her name to come up blue. She has long page under her name. If you can make the adjustment I would appreciate it. I am not a resident of the area but I am under the impression she is from Longview. If she does not deserve to be considered a Longview notable, feel free to delete. 15 Feb 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 06:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Let's relax on the pictures
Scroll bars on "Notes" section
I removed the scroll bars from around the Reflist. It looks sort of inconsistent with the rest of Wikipedia, and it appears from this article's history that when the "height: 250px; overflow:auto" was added, the article didn't have enough references to need those scrollbars (so maybe the person who added them didn't plan on it looking like that). —Mu Mind (talk) 03:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Removed History section
Related to the copyright violation notice above, I again removed the History section. It started with the text:
Acknowledgment: This brief history of Longview was written by Nancy Green McWhorter and her husband, Eugene W. McWhorter. Appreciation is gratefully expressed to the Gregg County Historical Foundation and Longview Rotary Endowment Fund, Inc., for permission to incorporate passages from Traditions of the Land: the History of Gregg County and from The Club and the Town: The Rotary Club and the City of Longview, Texas, Year by Year from 1920 to 1995, both books by Eugene McWhorter. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
Sorry, but, that's not how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia text has to be freely usable by other websites. You cannot put an "All rights reserved" notice on any of it. Plus some of the content just outright endorsed people to visit another website, which sounded more like advertising than an encyclopedia article.
Per capita Income
Speaking of advertising, this whole article reads like the chamber of commerce wrote it. This is not the vehicle for promotion of this city. If the "Events" section is re-written and referenced soon, it will be removed. It reads like this..."We have an exposition center and in it are held expositions." That is what would be left if the promo were removed. What is of county-wide interest is pretty much definitively NOT what is of interest to the intended audience of this article. John from Idegon (talk) 02:04, 4 December 2013 (UTC)