Talk:Love On Top/Archive 1

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The Huffington Post later confirmed that Knowles is 5 months pregnant and her pregnancy announcement had broken the "most tweets per second recorded for a single event" Twitter record, receiving 8,868 tweets per second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:11, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

If this is released as a single................................

If this is released as a single, i will withdraw the GAN. JiveshTalk2Me 16:59, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I think news of an official single release is here... THIS was just posted on the official New Zealand website... Theuhohreo (talk) 13:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. As far as i see, "Party" does not have one. It is evident as it was not even sent to radio. JiveshTalk2Me 16:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
As far as I can see? No it has not been sent to radio. Yes it seems to be the dominating factor of Urban radio, but that does not contribute to a release. From what I see, "Love on Top" is the albums third single. Theuhohreo (talk) 17:14, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm now it is high time some people here understand that. I have already left a note on "Party"'s talk-page. Let's not talk here or else we will be reminded this is not a forum. Lol. JiveshTalk2Me 17:21, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Just in case you care!!!!!!!!

LOT was viewed 346 times on August 28, 2011. After the VMAs, the number of views rose to just above 8600. JiveshTalk2Me 18:18, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

amazing news Jivesh!!! "Love on Top" is dominating the US iTunes (#6)!!! I can not believe people had wanted to delete this page.. the buffoonery!!!! Theuhohreo (talk) 19:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Jimee, i hsd complete faith that you would reply. We are really the dominating (lol) King B stans here. JiveshTalk2Me 04:36, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Um guys, just wanna remind you of WP:NOTFORUM? Novice7 (talk) 04:38, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. The main thing i wanted to et know was about the number of views it received. This can be mentioned as per the talk-page of Knowles Wikiproject. Sorry for the rest. JiveshTalk2Me 05:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
It's okay. Just wanted to remind you in case you forgot :) Novice7 (talk) 06:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Chart performance charts

We only use charts when there are numerous chartings to be covered easily. Do you think that a chart is necessary here? I Help, When I Can.[12] 21:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Wait till one week and you will see how many will added as well. JiveshTalk2Me 04:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


Is this the cover for the single? (talk) 17:33, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I sincerely do not think so. JiveshTalk2Me 17:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Lead too long

The lead does not satisfy MOS:LEAD and gets into too much detail. It should have no more than three paragraphs based on its prose length. I quickly prepared a possible lead at User:Wikipedian Penguin/sandbox to get an idea of how the lead should be structured. This does not have to be exactly the way the lead should be, but something like it. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

The lead is not long. It appears to be long because i have broken it into four paragraphs. And concerning you concern about too much of details, this one has all these details because it was a very notable one, i mean it got numerous reviews. That is actually what validated its existence on Wikipedia before being announced as a single. You can have a look at the AFD. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 19:37, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
It is very probable the lead will be re-written after a few weeks (that is, when it starts falling down the charts) and then be nominated for GA. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 19:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Fine, but you'll have to find some way to shorten it down per MOS:LEAD#Length's table. It does not deserve four paragraphs. As one of the five MOS guidelines to pass GAN, this is very important. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
A lead can consist of 4 paragraphs per MOS:LEAD#Length. Hmmm, which article do you think deserve four paragraphs? I hope that you are not weighing the number of paragraphs with the commercial reception of a song? If yes, that is not done. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 04:42, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
With a quick character count via script, we can see that this article does not have the sufficient length to have a fourth paragraph, per the table. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:58, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Wow. I did not know about all that. Seriously. Can you give me the link to the table? I never knew all these details could be checked. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
See this. Remember that prose size does not include lists, reference lists, infoboxes and the TOC. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Another thing you can do is copy/paste the prose (minus reflists/ lists and infoboxes) onto Microsoft Word and do a character count there. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:10, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
My sincere thanks to you. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Of course, just want articles to be their best. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:21, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Archiving links to avoid the same issues that occurred on "Party"'s page

Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:01, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Release Scrapped?

Its been removed from FMQB, from Radio & Records, and it's not even on All Access.....So, i think it's best to not list it as a single for the time being until source issues have been justified. (talk) 02:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Those sites list the new releases that week. They change. That's why we usually archive them. | helpdןǝɥ | 03:28, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
You are totally wrong. R&R is automatically archived. Why would FMQB and Allaccess remove only "Love on Top" from their list of songs going for adds on September 20, 2011 when the rest are still there? You could have cared to visit those links at least once before replying to the IP. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 04:55, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Ok. I see what you mean. | helpdןǝɥ | 15:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, yes. It appears that both "Party" and "Love on Top" have been scrapped... | helpdןǝɥ | 15:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
I think that these scrapped releases should be briefly mentioned in all articles they apply to. | helpdןǝɥ | 15:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Please do not get me wrong but this was what i was trying to tell you as well as Status last time. You two do not really follow how Beyonce's singles are managed. It does not matter how many team she changes. That does not mean she will have a new strategy each time. Otherwise, she will run out of strategies one day. I knew from the beginning that even LOT will not be a single. Mark my words, the next single will either be "Party" (35% chance) or "Countdown" (45% chance). There is a 20% chance for "End of Time". Wait and watch. Perhaps you will find everything i have written irrelevant but that will certainly be because you do not follow everything about Beyonce. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 15:51, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea how to do that. Can you please do it? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 15:52, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

See. Here we go. We all see that this song was removed now. I wonder what the hell her label is doing? Planning to send two songs to radio, and then pulling them. — Status {talkcontribs  23:09, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

I knew from the beginning this was going to happen. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 08:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Cosign that Jivesh and Status! Her label is a mess at the moment, especially with the pregnancy. UhOh STACK STACK STACK 15:03, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


I posted this on the Album Talk:

The links where "Love on Top" was listed as being sent for adds:


Here is a screenshot of the cache from the news on Beyonce's offical site, naming "Love on Top" as her new single: — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:12, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

That's great and all, but every single one of those resources have been re-edited to exclude "Love on Top"'s single release! Which is the main point here. The single was cancelled. The newest rumor is a "Party"/"Countdown" double release, one for Urban one for Pop, but this is all still unconfirmed. As far as Wikipedia is concerned, 4 only released two single. UhOh STACK STACK STACK 19:22, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
The answer lies in what you have posted: was listed as being sent for adds. It is no longer a single. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 19:20, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Third International Single

Several sources state that it's the next international single, Source 1 and Source 2, so it should be mentioned. (talk) 15:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Lots of media outlets like that refer to a song as a single because they are misinformed. It like in one of the reviews for Rihanna's Louod, the song Fading (song) was referred to as a single, when it isn't. CalvinNaNaNaC'mon! 15:57, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Third international single? When her team announced that a preview of the video will be shown, they referred to it as an album track unlike "Countdown". What Calvin has said is totally right. Videos have been shot for all songs on 4. That does not mean all of them will become singles when their respective videos will premiere. As far as i know (form Knowles' label), "Countdown" is th third international single. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:02, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Contradicting you OWN sources, this and this. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:39, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Ya, Countdown is the third single, but only in the US and the UK.......and look at the dates of the sources you cited, it was before those sites got word that Love On Top is going to be the third single internationally.... (talk) 16:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Non of them mention this third thing. This is what makes the information you provided further misleading. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

But it has been already announced on the New Zealand version of Beyonce's official site that it's the third single there., im gonna add the information back.....

This has already been discusses on her page. Her discography and everywhere else. It is simply not a single. The announcement was made there. Several websites confirm "Countdown" as the third single. Your edits will be reverted as all the previous ones were reverted. I suggest that you read the talk-page of her discography's page. Please. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
As you see, your edit was reverted even before i could do something. This has been discussed countless times now. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:06, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Moreover, your source says next international single and now you are telling that it is already released. As you see, logically, everything you are doing is misleading. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:07, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

But it has been already added to Australian radio as the third single there.[Source]. You do the math, it has been announced as the third single in the New Zealand and Australian verison of Beyonces official website..then it was added to Australian radio in September 2011...and now the music video sneak peak prmeiered on an Australian TV channel...come on, its so obvious..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Did you care to seethe discussion on her discography's talk page instead of telling me more and more each time? You will get all your answers there. And no, you are wrong. Shooting a video for a song does not make it a single. Is "Freakum Dress" a single? "Suga Mama"? The recent "1+1"? I can give you a list of you want. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Then why was it officialy sent to Australian radio? Source.......Can you atleast mention that it was offically added to Australian radio on September 12..... (talk) 17:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

By any chance, did you know about this:

The "1+1" video is the story of love at its best. It's about commitment and fulfillment and it's Beyoncé at her most beautiful. The video experiments with psychedelic visual effects and innovative lighting that gives the clip a cinematic feel. "1+1," .... the first song on the album and it's the first of many videos which will be released to visually tell the story of 4. The dress rehearsal clip backstage at AI, "Pregame" became an instant viral hit as soon as it hit the web.

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Did you know Australian radios were playing it before it was, as you say, officially sent? We have been here since years, yes many years. Do you believe it is only now that we will start fabulating single releases? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

But the point is that it was officially sent to Australian radio, it doesnt matter if they were playing it before....the label officially sent it to australian radio and [ This source is reliable] and is worth mentioning atleast. (talk) 17:30, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Do you think it is worth mentioning when it is not a single? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:31, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

yes, i do......Anyway, Knowles official New Zealand and Australian websites announced it as a single in September 8....then it was officially sent to Australian radio on September it is a single....ypu want to call it an airplay only single in Australia, fine...but it is an offical single there.......and it did chart on the ARIA chart....oh and why is it ok for Gaga's Dance in the Dark to add the Australian radio adds date in their release history...... (talk) 17:38, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I believe because it also received a promotional digital release. And you are again bringing the same thing. LOT debuted on the official charts in both NZ and AUS before being sent to radio. So there is not relation with regards to its charts. And this is also on the talk-page of her discography's page. I told you all your answers are there. ARIA does not count airplay while compiling its charts. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:45, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

What does the fact that ARIA does not count airplay while compiling its charts have to do with anything.......Record labels send songs to radio so people can here it and then buy it on iTunes.......and this source not only gives the official radio adds date but also calls it the next single so, please stop it........... (talk) 17:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, you stop. You are completely misinformed about everything. Until Beyonce's record label says "Love on Top is the fourth single to be released from 4" in an official statement, the article is not changing to single status, and your edits will be reverted every time. CalvinNaNaNaC'mon! 18:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
It states the same for "Dance in the Dark". And you are telling me to stop it when i am being so patient with you since the beginning! ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:58, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, im sorry......i don't want to cause a feud between us...... (talk) 18:04, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

It is okay. I understand. I am sure we will get some confirmation soon. But it is unlikely to happen in the near future. "Countdown" has just been properly released. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:06, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Officially released in Italy. The song is on the radios and also the music video is in rotation on music channels. RDS Playlist Italian Radio Date--Aaa16 (talk) 12:22, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Video premieres on the Australian version of The Today Show on October 17. Oz talk 10:43, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I am so excited. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

N"ew Edition's '80s smash "If It Isn't Love" is the clear inspiration in the 82-second tease of Beyoncé's video" please change this - it's "inspired" NOT SIMILAR, it's diferent..

span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:00, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 07:56, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Synopsis and reviews

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 08:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

If a secondary source is needed for Knowles' statement on her website

Oh MY God, i am happy to know such people are still alive. Lol

>>>EXCLUSIVE: Mike Bivins Responds To Beyonce's Ode To New Edition+Helps The Homeless Of NYC

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:14, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Beyoncé 's new video, "Love on Top," feels like the male counterpoint to "Single Ladies."

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Beyonce’s “Love On Top” Video: Review Revue (Many Reviews in one article)

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Get the Look: Beyonce's 'Love On Top' Video (FASHION) >>> I wonder how this will be useful???

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 05:11, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


I posted the same thing above. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:56, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry. My love is love (talk) 11:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Aww you do not have to be sorry for this. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Love On Top music video director

I see there is no mention of the director of the Love On Top video.....i searched alot online, and i can't find who it is.....if someone can find who the director is, please add it to the article.Trywithme (talk) 19:39, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely no idea. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:59, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Video charts

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:53, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:23, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Promotional single or not

  • Is it right to consider this as a promotional single using a source which often publishes fake single covers? I see nothing being released on iTunes or Amazon. The cover, i mean the current one, is genuine but so what? Not only singles have covers. It is just a cover art. I can list many song articles on Wikipedia having covers. The actual cover is from the album booklet. The so-called promo is a 3:08 cut but where on earth is it? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:25, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm not 100% sure. This is like the exact same situation as "Wet". Status {talkcontribs 06:27, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
You are faster than the speed of light. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Hung Median is reliable for charts and nothing else. If you can find an actual copy of the CD then it's more than likely a promo, but not from that source alone. The cover is iffy, its original source is from here. Remove it. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 06:38, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I agree with you Lakeshade. Hung Medien cannot be trusted in this case. As for the song, we don't have a reliable source to confirm the 3:08 cut (a few forums state it's the video version, sent to radios. We can't use them.) Novice7 (talk) 06:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I'll echo what I said in my talk page. Hung Medien is not reliable for determining the single or promo-single release status of a song. And wow, everything nowadays seems to be about Ray of Light ---> referencing Jivoo dahling's comment "faster than the speed of light". Novice, that's one track you can't get enough. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:59, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
ROL is simply epic I simply can't at the number of wigs it snatched. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 07:02, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, ROL is amazing! When I first saw the music video on TV back in 2000 (I think), I fell in love. But then, I didn't know who sang it (or who Madonna was!) but I did find it :) Novice7 (talk) 12:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Now I'm not sure. I've been told before that Hung Medien was reliable for release formats. And the 3:08 cut is the version they're playing on Australian radio. Oz talk 07:16, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • In my opinion, this is a promotional single only if it was released somewhere for digital download alone. And it mostly did, but not apart from the album. It is not a single, for sure. And that artwork is real, I guess. Is this reliable? This case is the same as "1+1"... - Saulo Talk to Me 08:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Well i do not know how far it is reliable but "1+1" got a separate digital release. The download link was deleted from iTunes once the album was released. And there were various reliable website which clearly stated it was released as a promo single. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:01, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I can't tell the authenticity of that cover artowork, but it looks fake and is from artwork from the album notes. I am sure that it is safe to not consider "Love on Top" a promotional single. Hung Medien is definitely not a reliable source for a song's release method. Take "Lighters" for example. The Hung Medien link says that the song was released as a CD single on June 20, but that is incorrect. The song is yet to be released anywhere but on radio and was not released on radio until July 3. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 10:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
I think the artwork is genuine. After it is just a cover, not a single cover. I will try to contact Columbia through Twitter. Hopefully they reply. (for the artwork) ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Promotionnal if a reliable source confirm that. If you don't find a reliable source, you cannot consider it as a single. Pixelyoshi (discuter) 15:57, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Im with Jivesh here, --BabbaQ (talk) 16:09, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Untrusted source, it is not promocinal single, is a song. Silencio faz bem (talk) 18:05, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Without a reliable source nothing can be confirmed, the song was not released on iTunes or Amazon, for me is not a promotional single. Without a reliable source the song can't be a promotional single. Lucas Brígido Msg 18:44, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I'd have to say no without a reliable source for the covers, albeit they do seem genuine when put next to other covers from '4' singles. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 19:58, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Hung Medien is not a reliable source for release. It should be used just for charts. My love is love (talk) 12:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
There are rumors that this will get a release in December in the UK because Beyonce filmed an ITV special for the UK. Till, then, let it remain as a song. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:03, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Agree with Lakeshade. Not a good secondary source to confirm the song as a "promotional" single. --Efe (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if it's notable, but The Huffington Post (used in the article as a source) refers to "Love on Top" as Beyoncé's "latest single"; no further details though. Anyway, until an official physical and/or digital release surfaces, I reckon it should be regarded solely as a song for the time being. SnapSnap 16:59, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm, i think i will have to write to THP very soon to tell them that releasing a video for a song does not make it a single, especially when you are Beyonce as she has a video for practically all her songs. The article was published on October 16, 2011. "Countdown" was released on October 4, 2011. That would mean LOT should have received a physical/digital release between October 5, 2011 and October 16, 2011. But as we know, it is all false. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:16, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

I think we have a consensus here. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:00, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

"Love on Top" is apparently getting a release in the UK

"Love on Top" is 4's overall fifth single but how am i supposed to present that in the lead? It is being released only in the UK. And as it is, it stands as UK's third release. I need a few suggestions here. Please. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 05:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Here in Italy is an official single. The video is on MTV very often and the song always on the radio. The song is in the iTunes top30 and it's climbing very fast.--Aaa16 (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

No honey, it does not matter if it got a radio release in your country. I know it is top 30 on iTunes. I know everything about Beyonce. Does FIMI take airplay into consideration? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:25, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 Done Jivesh1205 (Talk) 09:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:07, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 Done and partly minus Removed Jivesh1205 (Talk) 09:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Hip Hop

 Done Jivesh1205 (Talk) 09:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh 1205 (talk) 11:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

TV Airplay chart Silencio faz bem (talk) 04:52, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Was not released in the UK on December 4

The december 4 date was just the discussion above, it was said: "There are rumors that this will get a release in December in the UK because Beyonce filmed an ITV special for the UK. Till, then, let it remain as a song"....anyway, that december 4 date is false, it's not in Digital Spy, not in Amazon UK, and not in iTunes UK........for now, Love On top was sent for airplay only in some countries like the australia, italy, and the uk....but it has yet to receive a separate digital and/or physical release....— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree but a consensus is needed here. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:53, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Problem solved, new release date for the UK, december 12.

Radio dates, are they necessary to be mentioned since they don't count towards the charts?

The radio dates for australia, italy, and the Uk, are they necessary to be mentioned in the release history given that fact that they don't count towards the charts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Live performances

Beyoncé had the winning VH1 moment of 2011

Beyoncé's "Love on Top" performance and revelation at the VMAs was named the #1 winning moment of the year in VH1's countdown of the Top 40 winning moments/events of 2011! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

MTV's 25 Best Songs of 2011

Edit request

In the infobox, remove the December 12 date because it's's not on Amazon UK nor iTunes UK....that date was just rumored, it was never confirmed....anyway, Love on top has yet to receive a separate digital or physical was only sent for radio airplay in some countries....there is no secondary source to prove that it was digitally released on that, remove the December 12 date from the infobox.....

Best Live MTV Performances Of 2011

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New Peak on Urban AC

  • [3] - 7.886 million AI  Done

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For Keyboard

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:34, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Jonathan Butler - Lies

Among all the many influences listed for this song, it still somehow manages to omit the song it sounds closest to: Jonathan Butler's 80s pop/r&b hit "Lies". I spotted this right away when I first heard it and even wondered if it was a sample, and so did others on youtube in the comments.

Since this is just personal opinion, it can't be used as a source but it's worth noting. -- (talk) 20:14, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:51, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

UK Sales

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:03, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Beyonce's 'Top'-of-Mind at R&B, But Is Her Album '4' Too Soulful for Pop?

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 07:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Love on Top (Smash Mode Remix)

Beyonce Banks First Adult R&B No. 1

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:29, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Dance Chart Archive

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:11, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Beyonce Nabs Sixth No.1 on R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Love On Top was just certified as a Gold Digital Single in the US.

Love On Top was just certified as a Gold Digital Single in the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:07, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I can't see that. If you have a source please leave it here. My love is love (talk) 19:32, 7 March 2012 (UTC)!/SonyMusicGlobal/status/176760241306861569 Silencio faz bem (talk) 20:44, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

• Sony Music Entertainment "Congratulations goes out to the amazing Beyoncé, whose song "Love On Top" was just certified as a Gold Digital Single by the Recording Industry Association of America!" - — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:09, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

But are we allowed to use Twitter as a source for certifications? I think it's better to wait for RIAA to publish it. My love is love (talk) 13:14, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Problem resolved, RIAA updated. Silencio faz bem (talk) 23:09, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

After 1st week

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:38, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

5th week at No. 1 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs Chart

Oz talk 20:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Chart Highlights: Beyonce 'On Top' of Dance/Club Play Songs

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

6th week at No. 1 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs Chart

Oz talk 20:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

It's pop › Beyonce › Music › All Songs Beggsie221 (talk) 21:57, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Read the "Composition" section, it says the song has elements of 1980s pop music. And the sources you provided above are not reliable. Oz talk 00:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Reception or Recognition?

Teen Choice Awards 2012 Choice R&B/Hip-Hop Song: "Love on Top," Beyonce — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

BET AWARDS 2012 VIDEO OF THE YEAR + VIEWERS CHOICE AWARD LOVE ON TOP — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


VMA's "Love On Top" Nominations Best Female Video — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:39, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Dutch 40 chart

Some ******* obviously thinks that it reached #23 on the official Dutch Top 40 chart, this was on the Tip Parade chart which are NOT THE SAME THING. Till 02:28, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Most played song on UAC radios in 2012

Top R&B/Hip-Hop Song - The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP)

Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

100 million plays VEVO certification

‘Love on Top’ has pulled in 100 million plays, earning it a coveted VEVO certification! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

ThatGrapeJuice is not a reliable source for citations. If a publication such as MTV, Billboard or a newspaper writes about this, then that source can be cited. Adabow (talk) 23:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)