Talk:Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

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Contested deletion[edit]

The colon is confirmed to be part of the title. In this source at an official Nintendo website, the title is indeed Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. --ThomasO1989 (talk)

Never mind, since the article has to be deleted in order for the other one to move. --ThomasO1989 (talk)

Contested deletion[edit]

This redirect should not be speedy deleted as an implausible typo or misnomer, because it's a valid article that needs to be a redirect. --Swenkman (talk) 11:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 (talk) 12:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)



Luigi's Mansion: Dark MoonLuigi's Mansion 2 – I remember the squabble over Dark Chronicle, where it was eventually decided that, as North America was the only gaming territory to market the game under a different name (Dark Cloud 2), it was in the minority, and the majority title should lead. The exact same problem has reared its ugly head here and should be solved using the exact same solution. Yellow Mage (talk) 20:49, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Oppose per Melodia. I didn't realize it was developed in North America, but now that I know, I don't think this is a Dark Cloud 2/Dark Chronicle situation. In the latter, it was the fact that the "native" name of the game was Dark Chronicle in addition to the fact that some English-speaking territories called it Dark Chronicle that that name won out. JP-developed + JP name + EU name > NA name, therefore, Dark Chronicle. NA-developed + NA name > JP name + EU name, therefore, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. Axem Titanium (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose - My gut instinct is to oppose, but being a North American myself, and thus being surrounded by references and people calling the game Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, obviously skewers my perception... but as per Axem, the fact the game was developped in NA gives weight to the NA title. :) ·Salvidrim!·  23:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose per Salvidrim. Note that the majority of reliable sources refer to it as "Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon", such as IGN, Kotaku, and Joystiq. Although these are all American, they are often used in videogame articles, with the first two being reliable, reputable sources per WP:VG/RS and the latter is also often used. WP:COMMONNAME may apply here, "The most common name for a subject, as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources" (should be used). Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 01:00, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Melodia's reasoning. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-3DS/Luigi-s-Mansion-2-274347.html Unreal7 (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • How is a link to Nintendo UK's site helpful? We already know it's called that there. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 01:30, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, no one had denied that the game has that title in Europe. However, the main arguments for retaining the current title are that the company that made the game, Next Level Games, is a North American company and the fact that most of the major gaming sites use Dark Moon. Neither of those arguments are refuted by that link.--64.229.164.74 (talk) 21:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose - Per Salvidrim, the fact that it seems like I've seen Dark Moon be used more often in general as well. Sergecross73 msg me 14:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose: I've seen the Dark Moon name used more than Luigi's Mansion 2. Most sources use the former name, so this is the name that most people would be more familiar with. Lugia2453 (talk) 00:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • I remember the squabble over Dark Chronicle, where it was eventually decided that, as North America was the only gaming territory to market the game under a different name (Dark Cloud 2), it was in the minority, and the majority title should lead. The exact same problem has reared its ugly head here and should be solved using the exact same solution. Also, I added it to the "potentially controversial" list three days ago (just in case), but nothing has happened, so I think it's pretty safe to say it's uncontroversial. Yellow Mage (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC) Comment moved from rejected technical move request so this point can be part of the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 04:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Given it was developed in North America, I would think the NA name should take preference (on the English WP). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 06:09, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
  • I don't know how much this matters, but. If you do a Google search "Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon" has 26.5M matches and "Luigi's Mansion 2" 23.2M (searches without the apostrophe are 3M for each). So Dark Moon title is slightly more used there, not by a massive margin only about 15%. Although one is higher, one title does not get used MASSIVELY more than the other. Thought I might check and tell you. Carlwev (talk) 08:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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