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what in the devil was this propagandistic rubbish about polish self-liberation in lwow?!!! it is foul enough to encounter the homerric deflation of german losses and astronomical inflation of soviet losses, but adding poleno-fascist mythology to the usual barely veiled neo-nazism isgetting burlesque. I deleted the offensive lie, as well as corrected the deflated german strengh and casualty figures, still I dread that it will somehow resurface. what is to be done with the various national-chauvinistic liars and wehrmacht worshippers, how shell we exterminate their noxious input?
"what is to be done with the various national-chauvinistic liars and wehrmacht worshippers, how shell we exterminate their noxious input?" send them to the Gulag Comrade :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 13:46, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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Grenadiers of the 14.Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS Galizien (ukranische Nr.1) take cover during the Brody encirclement.
The statement is false. 14.Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS Galizien consisted of Ukrainians who were not allowed to have runes (SS) on their helmets. Meanwhile the foto shows clearly that soldiers are wearing helmets with runes. It seems to me that foto depicts not Ukranian "Galizien" but some Germans detachment of Waffen SS. --184.108.40.206 (talk) 08:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Equaling Das Deutsche Reich und der 2. Weltkrieg with those Soviet numbers is ridicoulus. The Soviet "source" is just a bold claim out of the nothing. Frieser did extensive archival research to establish those numbers, while there was never a Soviet "historian" who watched up just a single page of German recordings. There are Soviet numbers for every battle of WW2, but we dont use them, because they have always been proven to be wrong, because there are just exaggerating estimates. Except for numbers based on Soviet archives ofc, like those from Krivosheev. StoneProphet (talk) 02:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry but Frieser was criticized not only one time about underestimating the losses of Nazi Germany, since he rely too much only the claims of German report. During the later phase of the Great Patriotic War, due to many German units were being beaten badly and distengrated, the German report about their casualties could only conducted sparsely. And the German generals tended to minimize their losses to avoid the anger of Hitler. So, mr prophet, pls stop your anti-Soviet thinking. I am really sick of anti-Soviet people who always try to underestimate the maginify of USSR role and victories in the Great Patriotic War. Михаил Александрович Шолохов (talk) 13:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
The article cites to a source by footnote four (Watt) and discusses the relative Soviet resources allocated to Lvov-Sandomierz vs. Bagration stating that more resources, in particularly aircraft but generally including 'Red Army'
Yet the wiki articles themselves show much greater numbers of men, armored vehicles, guns (artillery) and aircraft allocated to Bagration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 22:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)