Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

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Suicide?[edit]

Maybe the pilot comitted suicide, ref: http://www.eltiempo.com/mundo/europa/piloto-del-vuelo-mh370-simulo-ruta/16652254 Dipper Pines251 (talk) 19:15, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

I thought you were interested in establishing where the aircraft ended up? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:18, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

The Malaysians reported that the pilot was acting odd in the days leading to the disappearance, but he wasn’t acting depressed. He saluted the guards with a military Salute. He also practiced landing on a remote Island, on his home flight simulator. This leads to the conclusion that he was hired by some military organization to hijack the plane and land it on a remote location. Also, if he wanted to plunge the plane into the ocean, why turn the plane where he could just plunge the plane into the South China Sea.--Jane955 (talk) 17:17, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

No, that doesn't lead to any of those conclusions. --McSly (talk) 19:38, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

From India Today “Investigations revealed that Captain Zaharie normally wished the Nepali security guards posted outside his colony with a Muslim style of salutation as if he was saying salam to him. But on the night when he took the flight nine days ago, he had saluted the guards in the military style."There was a striking change in the way he had saluted us that night," said one of the security guards posted outside his house on condition of anonymity, adding, ‘‘It was very unlike him."

A military salute in its self is not enough to conclude that he was hired by some militant group, but he also practiced landing on a remote runway and knew how to avoid being detected by radar. This was obviously very well planed and would be impossible for a rouge pilot to do on his own.--Jane955 (talk) 02:31, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Witnesses on Maldive Island[edit]

Many people saw a plane that could have been MH370, flying low over Kuda Huvadhoo island (Maldives) on March 8,2014 at around 6:15am local time. The plane was heading south.dailymail --Jane955 (talk) 17:04, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

The daily mail is not a reliable source. Please provide reliable sources for any change request on this article. --McSly (talk) 19:37, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Is "The Australian" a reliable source? The title of the article is "The Maldive islanders who say they can help find MH370"/Aviation -The Australian: April 4, 2015 (The link does not work) I will also add a link to a youtube video where the witnesses are interviewed. (There are no subtitles here). Let me include here a few quotes that you will find in the article: “I watched this very large plane bank slightly and I saw its colours — the red and blue lines — below the windows, then I heard the loud noise. It was unusual, very unusual. It was big and it was flying low. It was a holiday (Saturday) and most people had gone to bed after praying.” “I saw the blue and red on a bit of the side," ­Humaam says. “I heard the loud noise of it after it went over. I told the police this too.” “This was not a normal sight — the plane was different," he says. “It was very big, very noisy, flying low. Later that afternoon on the beach I was told the news about the missing plane. I think this is the same flight.” Witnesses youtube There are several articles that talk about the direction the plane was flying. I'll add one link. "Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling north to south-east."Indo-Asian News--Jane955 (talk) 01:41, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Not Taiwanese[edit]

People with citizenship of Republic of China/Taiwan are not necessarily Taiwanese. I know it sounds crazy since citizens of the Canada are all Canadians. The people whose ancestors are from Taiwan are Taiwanese. They also consider themselves Chinese. The people who came to Taiwan in the late 1940's and later are often not Taiwanese.

The way to fix it is to not use terms like "Malaysian" or "Chinese" in the table. Use the country, like "Malaysia".

Not addressed in this section is whether to use the standard Wikipedia agreement to be neutral. Taipei claims all of China. Beijing claims all of Taiwan. Taipei says it is the Republic of China. Beijing says it is the People's Republic of China. Wikipedia has agreed to be neutral. Vanguard10 (talk) 06:00, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Dont have a problem with the change to country names but note consensus on wikipedia is to use Taiwan as the country name per the related article. MilborneOne (talk) 14:34, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Innacurate information regarding first call for ULB battery life to be increased.[edit]

The loss of SAA flight SA295 in 1987 final report made a formal reccomendation that the battery life of ULB be increased to at least 60 days. The suggested methodology based on then current battery tech was to have one set active for 30 days and the a second to take over for an additional period.

The board also looked at the suggestion of making recorders float so that, too was a matter that is not just a recent suggestion.

Thus the statement in this article that it first came only after the loss of AF447 is historically inaccurate.

You can see the official report on the SA295 loss and its suggestions here: <ref> http://www.caa.co.za/Accidents%20and%20Incidents%20Reports/Final%20Report%20ZS-SAS.pdf <ref>

Applicable page is 177 and section 6.6

Would there be any objection to my making an edit to reflect this? Thank you Mark 197.89.170.188 (talk) 10:25, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

No objections from me. That's a really good suggestion. Well spotted, Mark. I wonder had you considered creating an account? I think your contributions would be welcomed. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:49, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
I don't see any part of the article that says the issue was first made after AF447. The relevant parts of the article are:
  • Lead: Flight 370's disappearance brought to public attention the limits of aircraft tracking and flight recorders, including several issues raised four years earlier—but never mandated—following the loss of Air France Flight 447.
  • Flight recorders: A call to increase the battery life of ULBs was made after the unsuccessful initial search in 2009 for the flight recorders on Air France Flight 447, which were not located until 2011. The ICAO did not make such a recommendation until 2014, with implementation by 2018. The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) issued new regulations requiring that the transmitting time of ULBs fitted to aircraft flight recorders must range from 30 to 90 days. The agency proposed a new underwater locator beacon with a greater transmitting range to be fitted to aircraft flying over oceans. In June 2015, Dukane, a manufacturer of underwater locator beacons, began selling beacons with a 90-day battery life.
AHeneen (talk) 18:30, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

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