Talk:Maracanã Stadium

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Games[edit]

How many games were played there? I can't find anything about that.--Louis 22:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisSS13 (talkcontribs)

I don't know, but usually Flamengo and Fluminense play most of their home games at Estádio do Maracanã. Also all Rio de Janeiro city derbies are played at the Maracanã. Recently América played some games at Maracanã. --Carioca (talk) 22:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Capacity records?[edit]

The opening section gives a an official attendance of 199,854 in 1950. The following section then gives a 'new official record' of 188,513 in 1954. Huh? 84.9.58.60 (talk) 14:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I see different assistance records to the 1950 final: 199.854 and 173.850
Which one is the correct? GastonSenac (talk) 20:31, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Concerning Critics[edit]

I do not agree with the strong criticism that start the article. It's not the very best of all articles perhaps, but I fail to see the difference of this article compared to several other articles of stadiums. By the way in the World Cup 1950 there was no common final - the four group winners played a second round. Uruguay, Brazil, Sweden and Spain played a second round group, where the winner of this second final-groupe became the World Champions. But the last game happened to be like a common final game, but Brazil only needed a draw to win the cup. Amazingly Uruguay won 2 - 1 and became world champions for the second time. (Brazil got silver and Sweden bronze, Spain no 4) 83.249.42.14 (talk) 00:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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Page moved to Maracanã (stadium). Vegaswikian (talk) 20:06, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Estádio do MaracanãMaracanã StadiumRelisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC) Per WP:UE and WP:COMMONNAME Maracanã Stadium is the established name for this stadium in English. Estádio do Maracanã is Portuguese, but English it is not.

Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 21:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Oppose. I oppose this move, as just Maracanã seems to be the most common name of the stadium. I support a move to Maracanã (stadium), as it uses the common stadium name (Maracanã) and adds the disambiguating word stadium in parentheses. --Carioca (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Undecided, since I know that the English name for the Mario Filho Stadium is Maracanã Stadium and the Portuguese name is Estádio do Maracanã and the official name is Estádio Jornalista Mário Filho, which is Portuguese. I already know that several edtors will be doing a page-move war on the stadium's title. Jim856796 (talk) 06:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Support as per WP:UE. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 15:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Just Maracanã is far more common than Maracanã Stadium, thus moving the page to Maracanã (stadium) is the best option. --Carioca (talk) 19:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Expanding my message above: even the main football (soccer) governing body, FIFA, adopts the name Maracanã instead of Maracanã Stadium, see this link. So the logical choice is to move the page to Maracanã (stadium). --Carioca (talk) 19:20, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
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Non-native English[edit]

This article's English is obviously not written by native speakers. It needs heavy editing to make it read like standard English. Wuapinmon (talk) 02:35, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Football stadium???[edit]

I'm pretty sure they play *soccer* there. How could wikipedia get such a basic fact wrong? 66.74.148.20 (talk) 09:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Football is the common name of the sport around the world, except in the United States, where they call it soccer. The other football is known as American football in the rest of the world but United States. Hope that helps. --Carioca (talk) 19:21, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Requested move to Maracanã Stadium June 2014[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved. EdJohnston (talk) 22:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC)



Estádio do MaracanãMaracanã Stadium – The latter name is much more established in the English world: Searching "Maracanã Stadium" on Google yields 150,000 English-language results while "Estádio do Maracanã" only gives 90,000 results in English. "Maracanã Stadium" is also the English translation. Heymid (contribs) 15:08, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. Other famous stadiums with Spanish names (Azteca, Centenario, ... ) have their Spanish names also at English Wikipedia. A redirect is fair enough. Fomalhaut76 (talk) 19:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
this ain't Spanish... Red Slash 00:06, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Strong support of this move but even better would be Maracana. WP:UE is still policy the last time I checked. Red Slash 00:06, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. For the same reasons of the opponent above. Maracanã was always known by the Brazilian Portuguese name. Furthermore, if we change Maracanã, why not change all stadiums, which is quite a difficult task. But if the Wikipedia users decide to change the name of the article to Maracanã, ONLY, like Mineirão and both Castelão (the one in Fortaleza, Ceará and the one in São Luís, Maranhão), I will not oppose, as that would end this dispute. The Replicator (talk) 13:21, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
[citation needed] Red Slash 01:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
  • I think I support this on WP:COMMONNAME grounds - when listening to ESPN, they aren't calling this "Estádio do Maracanã". But it should maybe be checked if "The Maracanã" is in the running versus "Maracanã Stadium"... --IJBall (talk) 02:34, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. Clear cut COMMONNAME. Note the last RM also came to this consensus and the article was moved back without any talk page discussion. Jenks24 (talk) 13:14, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. While coverage of the World Cup uses the Portuguese name in the stats, on-air commentary and other sources use the generic English name, either "Maracana Stadium" or "Maracana stadium" (I prefer the lower case "stadium" as that indicates it's not the stadium's official name). Seems to be a case of WP:COMMONNAME. --JonRidinger (talk) 03:08, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move to "Estádio do Maracanã" August 2016[edit]

Maracanã StadiumEstádio do Maracanã – "Maracanã Stadium" is merely an English translation of the name but the proper "stadium name" is "Estádio do Maracanã"... Check match reports FIFA, they also officially report the name as "Estádio do Maracanã"... Maracanã Stadium is just an English translation and the proper name... The proper, formal name of the stadium is "Estadio do Maracanã" and that's why I'm requesting this move to make the article absolutely accurate... Redirecting "Maracanã Stadium" to "Estádio do Maracanã" would be better!!! Cricket246 (talk) 12:21, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: Kindly consider my move request for once!!! Thanks!!! Cricket246 (talk) 19:44, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

The last two move discussions both wound up deciding on Maracanã Stadium, which is the current name. Why not read over the two prior discussions which can still be seen above (one in 2011, one in 2014). Do you think you have new arguments or data that weren't considered previously? Per WP:OFFICIAL we don't use the official name if there is a common name that is more widely used in English. EdJohnston (talk) 20:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
@EdJohnston: If that's the rule then fair enough... As I saw FIFA using Estádio do Maracanã during Confederations Cup and World Cup that's why I thought that's a more authentic name... Thanks for the extensive explanation... Helped me understand the rule better!!! Thanks!!! 😃 Cricket246 (talk) 20:59, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Isn't this inaccurate??[edit]

"it will be the only Summer Olympics ceremonies venue never to have held a single athletics (track and field) event during its existence." If I am not mistaken, the Velodrome de Vincennes has never been used for track and field events either.
SecretName101 (talk) 08:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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