Talk:Marguerite Louise d'Orléans

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Good article Marguerite Louise d'Orléans has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
April 2, 2010 Good article nominee Listed

Name in title[edit]

Surname of members of the Orléans family is *d'Orléans*, not *of Orléans* - *of* is used after a title given in English, such as, Philippe d'Orléans, Duke of Orléans. Changing name in title of article, and doing same to others of the Orléans family. Frania W. (talk) 00:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Titles, styles, honours and arms[edit]

The Tuscan styles are incorrect and the Orléans style I cannot find a source for. Therefore, considering this article is GA nominee, I have removed the section. No offence to you, LouisPhilippeCharles. -- Jack1755 (talk) 15:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Update: I made a conscious decision to use a hypen in her name, in accordance with the article's sources. I also changed 'Grand daughter of France' back to 'Princess of France'. Because there doesn't seem to be an article for that particular term, I thought it could confuse the readers. -- Jack1755 (talk) 15:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
fair do's, but a Petit-Fils de France [Grand son of France] is what it should be surely!? there is no article or term on wikipedia for princess of france, it is the above mentioned term..it would not be hard to explain that as a the daughter of a son of France then she was a Grand daughter if that makes sense :S Monsieur le Duc 23:42, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
J&LPC: Did you read the contract? What *rights* did she have to surrender? --Frania W. (talk) 00:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Of course, LPC, you are completely correct: she was a granddaughter of France. However, because reviewers, GA and FA alike, are inclined to think that readers have the comprehension skills of gnats, we must be wary of 'complicated' terms . That leaves us with two options. We either shy away from using the term altogether or, preferably, use it with an explanatory parenthesis, e.g., 'granddaughter (princess) of France'. Something along those lines would be perfect! Now to address the contract. Although I have not read it, Frania, I can tell you that she 'renounced her priviliges as princess of the blood' (Acton, 134). Unfortunately, Hale, Hibbert, Strathern et al only mention that a contract was signed, without revealing its contents. Pray pardon my late reply, guys! Have a great weekend. -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Marguerite Louise d'Orléans/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I have worked hard to correct this jumble of misstated information. It's more or less correct now... at least, it's correct enough not to be misleading on the major issues.Ranumspa (talk) 21:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Last edited at 01:38, 1 January 2012 (UTC). Substituted at 23:07, 29 April 2016 (UTC)