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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus. —Nightstallion (?) 08:47, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

rename Martin Buß to Martin Buss

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Move proposed by User:71.31.46.194
Heya. Look in the browser at the characters. Some body must have redirected it or moved it. The characters are not english in the url string. As far as I know everything on wikipedia has to be.--71.31.46.194 19:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand. If you check the URLs for the examples I've given above, they are not English characters. Budgiekiller 19:06, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe they should be banned, but they're not, so it's not really a valid reason. Budgiekiller 07:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with reservations. I generally agree that names should be kept as close to the original spelling as possible, including diacritics, but I would make an exception for names using ß. For one, it is dissimilar in shape to ss so that most English readers unfamiliar with it tend to read it as a B. For two, it is being phased out in German (although not necessarily for own names). And for three everybody who sues an ß is used to seeing it changed to ss even in German, for instance if the name is capitalized (there is no capital ß, it's simply BUSS). But I take it this discussion should really be held somewhere else? ~ trialsanderrors 09:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think so, but it should probably be held at another location. ~ trialsanderrors 21:26, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Let me just add: trialsanderrors, the ß is *not* in the process of being phased out at all. The rules for when it should be used have just been streamlined. After the reform, the distinction between ß and ss is absolutely clear: ß comes after long vowels, ss after short ones, period.
That the Swiss have decided to abolish the ß entirely a long time ago is another matter entirely. Just trying to clarify this. —Nightstallion (?) 08:47, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note I didn't use past tense. ~ trialsanderrors 08:57, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]