Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe

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Thor Odinson[edit]

I was curious how or why it was decided to exclude Thor's last name in any of the cast listings. Everytime he introduces himself it's as "Thor Odinson". The argument could be made that he's introducing himself as Odin's son, but in the Norse mythology and Marvel's adaptation thereof this is how a last name came to be, and Marvel kept that as the character's name and for the same reason. In addition to this, over the multiple movies others call him Thor Odinson many times. Why was it decided to exclude that?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:55, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Because he is credited as Thor, not Thor Odinson.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 16:32, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
How does that negate the fact that he introduces himself as "Thor Odinson" throughout each of the films?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:55, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
A minor point: That really would be Thor Odinsson, (literally, "Thor, son of Odin.")
Pine (talk) 12:40, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Photo copyright[edit]

There is no way the infobox photos is copyrighted, right? Seems like it is the definition of just being text.

File:Marvel Cinematic Universe logo.png

Unless someone objects, I will find a higher resolution and amend the copyright status. Kees08 (Talk) 06:20, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

There is File:Marvel Cinematic Universe.png but MOS:TVIMAGE prefers the actual intertitle over user recreations.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:13, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@TriiipleThreat: Well, we should be able to just remove the fair use rationale from the image. It is literally just text, there is no fair use required. I just wanted to have a little discussion before I did it; I am going to be bold and do it now, anyone can revert me and we can continue the discussion if necessary. Kees08 (Talk) 08:46, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
I uploaded to Commons, but for some reason cannot get that version linked correctly in the infobox. Anyone want to give it a go? We can delete the fair-use version one as well. Kees08 (Talk) 08:58, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Comics[edit]

The MCU has several tie-in comics, which is already discussed in the article. There is, however, an issue that is not being discussed: the MCU had an impact on the main Marvel comics as well. The inhumans were pushed to leading roles in the detriment of the X-Men and even starred in crossover events, many characters are slightly or heavily modified to match their cinematic versions, the GOTG include their humor, "The Defenders" and "Avengers Assemble" had similar line-ups, Phil Coulson migrates to the comic book universe, Quicksilver & the Scarlet Witch are no longer mutants, etc. Some sources: 15 Ways The MCU Changed Marvel Comics (And You Didn’t Even Notice), How The Marvel Cinematic Universe Has Transformed The Comics, Ways the MCU changed the comics it comes from, etc.

Should this go in "other media", a new section of "Cultural impact", or some different article? Cambalachero (talk) 17:49, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

The "Other media" section with the other comic book information.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:54, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I actually think it should go in the "Cultural impact" section as its own subsection. Because what it seems to me you are trying to add Cambalachero, is the influence the MCU had on the 616 Universe, not necessarily MCU versions or MCU inspired characters appearing in the comics. If it was the later, I would agree with TriiipleThreat that it should go in "Other media" with the guidebook information.. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:59, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
But the Cultural Impact is for influences outside of Marvel. We already have information about how the MCU’s success has influenced their own films (increasing the number of films per year, etc.) and growth into other media in the development section. Also it’s nice to keep related topics together. You’re suggesting we split this information on imaginary in-universe lines.—TriiipleThreat (talk) 06:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
I don't know what the right place to put this is, but a section on the impact the MCU has had on the comics is more than just MCU-inspired characters appearing in other media, it should be about the general ways the comics have imitated the MCU, as well as why and if it has been successful if that info is available. I don't know if it is big enough to be considered "cultural impact", but it shouldn't be down-played as just Marvel being consistent with itself either. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Other Studios: Acquisition of Fox's Rights To X-Men & Fantastic Four Characters[edit]

This article gives a brief history or summary of "Other Studios" attempting to establish their own movie universe as opposed to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. After Disney/Marvel's acquisition of all the X-Men & Fantastic Four character rights from Fox, why is there no mention of this in the article? Is that because it hasn't been confirmed yet if any of these characters will be brought into the MCU? Aidensdaddy2k9 (talk) 23:48, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

It's mentioned in the last paragraph of the first section ("Development/Films") of the article. - Brojam (talk) 00:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

I should have rephrased my question to "Why isn't it mentioned in the "Other studios" section?" But I didn't see that it was mentioned. Thanks though. Aidensdaddy2k9 (talk) 03:31, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Film table consistency[edit]

The phase three films listed in the table seem to have an extra column, with numbers (maybe running length) in the directors column, shifting all the columns after it one to the right, so they don't match up with the table headings. --Snowhihi (talk) 14:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2018[edit]

'Recurring cast and characters' section should be updated to include Wolfgang von Strucker's appearance in Agents of SHIELD 138.251.246.170 (talk) 16:34, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Do you have refs or season & episode numbers? - theWOLFchild 20:47, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
It's ep 515 (here). I'm adding it in. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Update for Stark's armor?[edit]

In the cast listing for Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4, Stark is noted as having "electromechanical suits of armor". But we see that he has updated his armor significantly, similar to that of the 'Bleeding Edge' armor from the comics, that is nanotechnology based and stored in the new arc reactor he has in his chest. Perhaps these film pages and any other related articles should be updated to reflect that? (here's a ref) I know there are some regular editors that maintain these pages, so I figured I'd suggest it here. Cheers - theWOLFchild 00:59, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm okay with a slight reword if necessary. Or simply dropping "electromechanical" as the adjective. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Dropping it, or trading it for something generic like "highly advanced", or something along those lines? - theWOLFchild 04:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah. Because one could ~presume~ that even though we don't see it, he could still have non-nanotech suits. That's a stretch of a justification, but I hope you get the idea. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:52, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Maybe high-tech, “highly advanced suit of armor” could still mean late Middle Ages.—TriiipleThreat (talk) 09:35, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Whatever you guys think works. I just think that the later articles, like A:IW 3 & 4 should somehow reflect the updates to his armor. The media is talking notice, as seen in the ref I added above, so perhaps we should should as well. - theWOLFchild 14:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Another way to go would be mentioning it in the plot as opposed to the cast credits, eg;

  • Strange recruits Tony Stark, who has a new, upgraded armor stored in an arc reactor worn on his chest. Maw and Obsidian arrive to retrieve the Time Stone from Strange, drawing the attention of Peter Parker. Maw captures Strange, but fails to take the Time Stone due to an enchantment. Stark and Parker, equipped with new Stark-designed armor, pursue Maw's spaceship, Banner contacts Steve Rogers, and Wong stays behind to guard the Sanctum.
    (This is a section of the current plot from Infinity War. Suggested additions are in green with links.)
    Thoughts? - theWOLFchild 04:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
I think it’s best we change the cast discription. We can also added sourced information about specifics of the upgrade.—TriiipleThreat (talk) 07:56, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Fine with me either way. - theWOLFchild 08:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Marvel Earth number designation[edit]

I was searching for the number designation of the MCU and was a little surprised it wasn't in the lead and had to search for it in the article. Could the lead be changed to something similar to this?

The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is an American media franchise and shared universe [...] Phil Coulson, portrayed by Clark Gregg, is an original character to the MCU and the only character to appear across all the different media of the MCU. Marvel has designated the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Earth-199999 within the continuity of the company's multiverse, a collection of fictional alternate universes. Gonnym (talk) 18:20, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't really seem like something that should be noted in the lead. Fans like you and I may be interested in it, but in the scope of the article I think it is a bit much to give it as much weight as you are suggesting. - adamstom97 (talk) 20:32, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
That line about Coulson also hasn't been true for years, as he doesn't appear in the Netflix shows or other recent spinoffs.70.79.59.95 (talk) 05:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Agree with Adam. Also IP, the line is most certainly correct. Per the wording, Coulson is the only character to appear in ALL MCU media (no longer is the line stating "most appearances"). No other character has appeared in a feature film, One-Shot, TV series, or digital series. Coulson has in all (and the MCU tie-in comic books too). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:50, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Digital series[edit]

I am unfamiliar with the term 'digital series' and can't find a definition anywhere on WP. What does it mean exactly. I am not a video game user and so I wonder if that is what is meant. Best Regards, Barbara    12:50, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

It's just a series of videos made for digital release (on YouTube, for example). It doesn't really qualify as a web series, which is a full television series released online. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)