Talk:Mary the Jewess

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Is there a reference for placing her in the third century? Most of the internet sources I've found (researching women in science) place her in first or second. Espresso Addict 04:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • The third century AD claim is from Greenberg 2000. When it says Several sources equate etc. some internet sources are ment. V8rik 19:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Moses must have lived for much longer than I thought[edit]

Somebody please get over here and cite that whole "sister of Moses" thing, or I'm going to delete it. I can think of no evidence to support that someone in the 3rd (or even the 1st) century A.D. could be anything like a sister to (the prophet, Biblical) Moses. I know nothing about this woman and am reluctant to nuke stuff myself, so I'd rather someone fiddle who's more knowledgable/invested. But I'll do it if I have to! Sugarbat (talk) 05:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Miriam the sister of Moses is the name Zosimos used in his book(see note 3)to give her greater antiquity the gnostics call her Mary Magdalen also to up her creditability J8079s (talk) 17:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Pliny[edit]

I added a ref for this. I will look for a better one.J8079s (talk) 19:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Except for the cite listed I find no support for Pliny young or old mentioning her. J8079s (talk) 01:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Book Claim[edit]

I removed the claim that she is considered the first non-fictional alchemist, as the source was merely one book which doesn't hold any authority. For all I know, Maria might have not even existed, just like Hermes or Isis, both of whom were mentioned by Zosimos of Panopolis as other divine alchemical inspirations (hence the legends that she was the sister of Moses). Pseudo-Democritus lived before this Mary anyway so he would be the "first alchemist", even though alchemy was clearly practiced by the ancient Greeks through the Hermes-alchemy cult that had been developing from BC in Ptolemaic Egypt. This is manifested by the Hermes-cult texts about alchemy from Ptolemaic Egypt that predate the supposed writings of Mary. (<-unsigned... 69.89.105.69)

Hi there. What's the source for giving Pseudo-Democritus before Mary? It'd be great to iron that out for sure. I know no academic source that verifies a Hermes-alchemy cult, BC. As for the source, Patai is a good one... better than the brittanica article. I'm going to restore deleted points. Maybe we can put citation needed marks against the points called into question and work from there? Car Henkel (talk) 14:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Mary or Maria in title?[edit]

I've just reverted some changes in the article to Maria as the title and article should match, but I've no objections to a change in the title but WP:COMMONNAME must be followed for any change. Dougweller (talk) 07:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

  • I thought about suggesting a change of the title but decided against it, as it would probably just add to confusion about the nomenclature. I used Maria instead of Mary because "Mary" is generally associated with St. Mary. Wahrmund (talk) 15:36, 9 September 2013 (UTC)